Topic: The Amalgam: honda past meets present, take 2! or 3?

[jag767]

Made some stuff to tack up in the morning

[bill440cars]

     Whoa, after looking closer into this build, I can better see how this IS quite an undertaking and the Cost, along with what all has to be done, might deter some from attempting to go this route, might be Some who would. Do you think it might be possible that after going through the process, like you did, You might see where you might be able see where you could possibly be able to do another one a bit easier? You know, like you might realize that there might be some ways to accomplish the transformation a little easier, using the knowledge and experience from this build? Some things work out that way, I wasn't sure about this one. You are the only one who could answer that question. Just curious. I sure can't afford one, but thought it might be helpful to someone who might consider it.    I am amazed myself, at the efforts you have put forth, to accomplish this build.  And allowing Us to go along with you, while doing this. 

It'd be really hard to cut dollars out of the parts, especially considering i got some really good deals on a few of them. Also keep in mind im not going crazy on any of the components, just decent stuff. I guess if one were to do the paint, powdercoat, and polishing themselves it would cut back costs, but i am looking for a show worthy finish so i want someone else to do it. The amount of time would be the biggest difference. I could get to where i am and take half as long without some of the trial and error.

           Oh, I understand that the prices on parts and such, depends a lot on what a person happens to run across, like the cost of that motor, for example. And with this one being so unique, you would have to expect some trial and error too. I appreciate the time you take, to discuss things and to explain things, from your standpoint. You have a way of holding a person's attention too.  Thanks. 

[RAFster122s]

Ending up on Bike Exif would just be gravy.

There is a EX500 powered cb550 out there...you just didn't turn to another brand for the motor.

[jag767]

     Whoa, after looking closer into this build, I can better see how this IS quite an undertaking and the Cost, along with what all has to be done, might deter some from attempting to go this route, might be Some who would. Do you think it might be possible that after going through the process, like you did, You might see where you might be able see where you could possibly be able to do another one a bit easier? You know, like you might realize that there might be some ways to accomplish the transformation a little easier, using the knowledge and experience from this build? Some things work out that way, I wasn't sure about this one. You are the only one who could answer that question. Just curious. I sure can't afford one, but thought it might be helpful to someone who might consider it.    I am amazed myself, at the efforts you have put forth, to accomplish this build.  And allowing Us to go along with you, while doing this. 

It'd be really hard to cut dollars out of the parts, especially considering i got some really good deals on a few of them. Also keep in mind im not going crazy on any of the components, just decent stuff. I guess if one were to do the paint, powdercoat, and polishing themselves it would cut back costs, but i am looking for a show worthy finish so i want someone else to do it. The amount of time would be the biggest difference. I could get to where i am and take half as long without some of the trial and error.

           Oh, I understand that the prices on parts and such, depends a lot on what a person happens to run across, like the cost of that motor, for example. And with this one being so unique, you would have to expect some trial and error too. I appreciate the time you take, to discuss things and to explain things, from your standpoint. You have a way of holding a person's attention too.  Thanks. 

You got it! I was actually thinking, and if someone want to build one on their own, If I had the motor and the frame I could make the frame for it, which along with the gas tank is the biggest hurdle. Then they could do the rest on their own.

[jag767]

Ending up on Bike Exif would just be gravy.

There is a EX500 powered cb550 out there...you just didn't turn to another brand for the motor.

Ok so maybe I'm the first fuel injected swap haha. Yes I'm hoping for bike exif to have interest, I have spoken to them about the project.

[bill440cars]

You got it! I was actually thinking, and if someone want to build one on their own, If I had the motor and the frame I could make the frame for it, which along with the gas tank is the biggest hurdle. Then they could do the rest on their own.

           Now THAT would be a pretty cool deal. Be great, it that ended up turning out a few of those "Combos". I, myself, can't do one, but I AM interested in the Comments, after the ride. Thanks again, for Your letting us go along with you, on this build. Those of you, who do the builds and post the progress on here, for the rest of us to keep up with, do appreciate it, especially with the great detail and photos like on this one.     

[jag767]

So the downtubes are mostly welded in, and the motor goes in and out pretty easy. Have to say i am quite pleased with myself. Never did this much frame work on my own before. Between all the notching, fitting, notching, put the motor in, fitting, removing the motor, notching, slugs, and welding, i got the job done.

There is still a long list for this frame, i have to box in the bottom motor mounts, a whole lot of well placed gussets, strengthen the backbone, make another set of motor mounts (possibly 2, unsure yet), fab up another radiator mount, grind them all smooth and body work the frame, make a battery box, then off the podwercoat!

[bill440cars]

So the downtubes are mostly welded in, and the motor goes in and out pretty easy. Have to say i am quite pleased with myself. Never did this much frame work on my own before. Between all the notching, fitting, notching, put the motor in, fitting, removing the motor, notching, slugs, and welding, i got the job done.

There is still a long list for this frame, i have to box in the bottom motor mounts, a whole lot of well placed gussets, strengthen the backbone, make another set of motor mounts (possibly 2, unsure yet), fab up another radiator mount, grind them all smooth and body work the frame, make a battery box, then off the powdercoat!

    Whoa! "No Rest For The Weary", Eh?    Makes Me Tired, Just Thinking About It.   

[jag767]

So the downtubes are mostly welded in, and the motor goes in and out pretty easy. Have to say i am quite pleased with myself. Never did this much frame work on my own before. Between all the notching, fitting, notching, put the motor in, fitting, removing the motor, notching, slugs, and welding, i got the job done.

There is still a long list for this frame, i have to box in the bottom motor mounts, a whole lot of well placed gussets, strengthen the backbone, make another set of motor mounts (possibly 2, unsure yet), fab up another radiator mount, grind them all smooth and body work the frame, make a battery box, then off the powdercoat!

    Whoa! "No Rest For The Weary", Eh?    Makes Me Tired, Just Thinking About It.

Lol. Thats my goal by Sunday, we'll see.

[RAFster122s]

What do you mean body work the frame?  I didn't think powder could be applied over plastic filler, nor would it be likely to hold up to 400F oven.

[jag767]

What do you mean body work the frame?  I didn't think powder could be applied over plastic filler, nor would it be likely to hold up to 400F oven.

Jb weld applied properly works just fine for powdercoat its good to 550 and wont gas out. I just use as little as possible in the important areas

[jas67]

I'm looking forward to seeing the final result!

[jag767]

I'm looking forward to seeing the final result!

You and me both! My week got a little hectic, haven't progressed much. Maybe Monday I can get more done.

[bill440cars]

        You got enough going, on this build, that I (along with others, I am sure)  am in, til the Finish. 

[jag767]

Good to hear! Spent some time grinding, sanding, and de-tabbing. I also threw some jb weld on one joint to see how well it sands down and works smooth. I've never used this for powdercoat myself, but i've heard good things.

[bill440cars]

         Never had anything powder coated myself, but I am sure it will be of interest to a number of folks here. Been around here since Dec of '05 and seen a lot of info posted here, that a lot of folks (including Me) have picked up on. This is the best place to be, cause there ain't no place like this place. Plus, it is like a Big Family of sorts. So, The Eyes and Ears are upon you and all others who post their builds and discoveries.   

[jag767]

         Never had anything powder coated myself, but I am sure it will be of interest to a number of folks here. Been around here since Dec of '05 and seen a lot of info posted here, that a lot of folks (including Me) have picked up on. This is the best place to be, cause there ain't no place like this place. Plus, it is like a Big Family of sorts. So, The Eyes and Ears are upon you and all others who post their builds and discoveries.   

Oh I've had lots of things powdercoated, but i've always meant to try using jb weld to fill areas. Have seen very good results.

[540nova]

I used JB Weld on my 450 before powdercoating, no problems encountered. I checked their website beforehand, which gave me the assurance it would hold up, and my powdercoater said the same thing. Both were right.


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[bill440cars]

         Never had anything powder coated myself, but I am sure it will be of interest to a number of folks here. Been around here since Dec of '05 and seen a lot of info posted here, that a lot of folks (including Me) have picked up on. This is the best place to be, cause there ain't no place like this place. Plus, it is like a Big Family of sorts. So, The Eyes and Ears are upon you and all others who post their builds and discoveries.   

Oh I've had lots of things powdercoated, but i've always meant to try using jb weld to fill areas. Have seen very good results.

I used JB Weld on my 450 before powdercoating, no problems encountered. I checked their website beforehand, which gave me the assurance it would hold up, and my powdercoater said the same thing. Both were right.


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      Well Folks, if I ever get to where I can get some powder coating done, I will have to remember that, about the JB Weld.   

[jag767]

Jb weld is awesome. Sands easy, well fairly easy, and very easy to apply. I worked one area just to see how it went. I also covered the opening where i cut the frame, and boxed out the motor mounts. A lot of sanding and shaping has to be done but you get the idea.

[RAFster122s]

A file can work it if you are wanting to flatten an area and need to take down or even out a wavy surface. Just leave enough to finish with sandpaper.

[Powderman]

Do not use "Quik Set" JB Weld, it will fail in the heat cycle. Regular JB Weld is the stuff to use for powder coating.

[jag767]

Do not use "Quik Set" JB Weld, it will fail in the heat cycle. Regular JB Weld is the stuff to use for powder coating.

Yup I read that, and used the regular stuff. Does it matter how thin I make it? I have it feathered down to nothing where I sanded it.

[jag767]

A file can work it if you are wanting to flatten an area and need to take down or even out a wavy surface. Just leave enough to finish with sandpaper.

I'be been removing the large amounts with a die grinder, then even it out with a file and sand paper, so far so good!

[540nova]

That's good. When it's on too thick is when you may have trouble.


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