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Offline DaveInTexas

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Carrying spare helmet
« on: December 12, 2006, 10:57:57 AM »
How do you carry the passenger's helmet when they are not around to support it?
Lash it to the seat?  Side bars?  I don't want to get it scratched up.
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2006, 11:02:32 AM »
My extra fits pretty well behind my leg on the helmet hook.
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2006, 11:02:55 AM »
i held it on the "helmet holder" hook when i had one  ;D it does not cause problems unless you need to kick start the bike. mine is a 76' though so it might be different than yours.
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 11:08:18 AM »
anyone have a pic of a helmet hook or a page ref from the manual? 
A pic of it in use would help too.,...does the helmet get banged up at all?

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 11:33:49 AM »
Hey Dave,

There is a lock under the right side of your seat.  When you unlock it, your seat swings up towards the left side of your bike.  There's a hook (see pic) where you put the D-ring of your helmet strap.  When you lower the seat back and it locks into place, your helmet is secure (as the long as the strap isn't cut, etc.)  I don't use it since I have a hard bag right there in the way, but that's the idea that Andrew was referring to.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 11:42:34 AM »
I have heard dire warnings about riding with a helmet locked on the side of the bike, I suppose because of the effects on handling or aerodynamics. That said, I've done it many a time. Probably not the best idea for a long day on the highway.

Another way to do it is to strap it to the pillion with a bungee cord net.

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 11:48:33 AM »
The most usual way in Spain is to carry it pillion, attached to the seat by means of a bungee cargo net with hooks to the fender.




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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 11:51:21 AM »
I did that a few time, but stopped when the helmet was damaged from rubbing on the rear tire.  The damage was to the rim around the bottom of the helmet.  Nothing structural, thankfully.  It is strange to hear that many other people do it without issue.  I wonder if my damage was because I don't have a grab bar.  Anyway, be careful. 

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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2006, 12:58:51 PM »
I'll clarify:  I don't use my helmet lock when parked, b/c the hard bag is in the way.  I don't think I'd like riding like that.  But now you know where it is.

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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2006, 04:52:09 PM »
thks Medic09
You are 'pretty close' to me, I am in west Tx and get to santa fe a few times a year

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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2006, 05:02:41 PM »
Where in W. Tejas are you?

If you're riding up (a little cold just now), we'd like to see you bike.  Oh yeah, and you...  :)

'Course, the wife and I may be riding your way.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2006, 05:32:23 PM »
maybe mine is different cause i have an F, but it had two helmet hooks, one was where the one pictured is, the other was much further up, left the base of the helmet against the sidecover, sat there nice, tucked up under you knee, but had to hold it outta the way to kick start...
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2006, 05:49:25 PM »
Andrew's right.  There are two, located as he said; one for rider and one for passenger.

Don't know why I spaced out on that.  Sorry.

Either way, you'll find them both when you lift the seat.  The rider's is on the frame member ~ above the oil tank, the passenger's on the crosspiece over the fender as pictured.

Thanks, Andrew, for the correction!
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2006, 08:08:43 PM »
Good call Andrew.  I just figured that one would get in my way.  I will have to try it out tomorrow. 

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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2006, 08:26:59 PM »
Dave,

one helmet on the forward/rider's helmet hook.
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2006, 09:26:13 PM »
Thanks for the pic.  You are always welcome here....I don't ride that far though. :)

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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2006, 06:05:29 PM »
Auuugghh!  Is this not the HONDA forum????
My seat hinges on the right!  The lock is on the left!!  I see no helmet hook!!!
Maybe its not a real Honda CB750 but I have been cheated with a poorly-made knock-off!
See pic, where to put helmet strap?
While we're at it, go ahead and engineer me a rear mount for the sissy bar (see sissy bar post)!

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Hey Dave,There is a lock under the right side of your seat.  When you unlock it, your seat swings up towards the left side of your bike.  There's a hook (see pic) where you put the D-ring of your helmet strap.  When you lower the seat back and it locks into place, your helmet is secure (as the long as the strap isn't cut, etc.)  I don't use it since I have a hard bag right there in the way, but that's the idea that Andrew was referring to.

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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2006, 06:13:12 PM »
I feel your pain, brother Dave.

Breath deeply.  Repeat the mantra: Hon-Da, Hon-Da,Hon-Da.

Okay.  Older model CB750's did have right hinged seats, or so I've read.  At least in England. (Honda CB750 by Mick Duckworth is kind of a nice read.)  Uh, Texas *is* near England, right mate?   :)

Next...I don't have a clue about your helmet hook.  I've never seen an older CB750.   :(
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2006, 06:48:44 PM »
Sooo, hey! That means.... this is sort of a rare beast maybe.  Probably worth thousands!!!!

I feel your pain, brother Dave.
Breath deeply.  Repeat the mantra: Hon-Da, Hon-Da,Hon-Da.
Okay.  Older model CB750's did have right hinged seats, or so I've read.  At least in England. (Honda CB750 by Mick Duckworth is kind of a nice read.)  Uh, Texas *is* near England, right mate?   :)
Next...I don't have a clue about your helmet hook.  I've never seen an older CB750.   :(

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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2006, 06:58:34 PM »
Well, I don't know.  I don't think the '70 K model is all that rare.  I just haven't seen any.  But I haven't been looking.

Still, judging by the condition apparent in your partial photos, it's in great shape.  That certainly helps the value.

So, did you find the helmet hook?  Is it further forward?

Let us know where to look for you and your bike if we ride down that way come spring/summer.
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2006, 07:00:12 PM »
Well, I don't know.  I don't think the '70 K model is all that rare.  I just haven't seen any.  But I haven't been looking.


Maybe I should take that back.  1970 was only the second year of production, wasn't it?  What's your frame #?
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2006, 08:16:26 PM »
Here is what the earliest seat (K0) looked like. It hinged on the right and there was no keyed lock. The little hook in the inset on the lower-left of the attachment served as both latch security and a helmet hook. You would pull the hook out and twist it slightly in order the release the seat latch.
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2006, 08:27:39 PM »
thats mine, I guess we are onto mod. #3, Make Helmet Hook! #2 Attach Sissy Bar Somehow #1 Attach Crash Bars Whoknowshow.

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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2006, 08:33:47 PM »
Dave that is a nice looking bike.  Let's see more of it!  How'd you get it?
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2006, 08:53:59 PM »
   Regarding helmet holders, this is from a '78F owners manual..."The helmet holder is designed for helmet security while parking. Do not operate the motorcycle with a helmet attached to the holder as the helmet may interfere with the rear wheel causing damage to the helmet and possible stoppage of the wheel."

   Interesting that they put helmet damage before "stoppage of the wheel".  ::)

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« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2006, 09:00:14 PM »
Hey Mick,  I was just looking at your signature.  When you went to school in Mass., were they teaching that phonetic (sorry, fonetik) spelling stuff?  I used to live in Woostah, btw.   ;)
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2006, 09:38:51 PM »
Don't be hacking about that K0 of yours mate, it's worth more than the average K, but not as much as a "sandcast" (early 1969) K0.

There is no recommended procedure for carrying a spare helmet on a bike, the recommendations above (apart, perhaps Raul's elastic net thing)are all fraught with danger, so I just wouldn't do it unless I had a pannier or top box to securely carry it.

I don't like helmet locks anyway, I've know of pissed (drunk)Aussies using peoples helmets for urinals, ha ha!:)
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2006, 05:00:57 AM »
Hey Mick,  I was just looking at your signature.  When you went to school in Mass., were they teaching that phonetic (sorry, fonetik) spelling stuff?  I used to live in Woostah, btw.   ;)

   No, I was in school before all of that started. Glostah is just the way it sounds coming out of people's mouths around here.

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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2006, 08:43:15 PM »
OK sorry to scare you with thoughts of hacking a beauty, I promise not to cut into any metal.
I still might attach the crash bars with1/4" steel tabs bolted on unless I find something that fits better.  And the sissy bar, no fender drillling scouts honor.  Once done, I can sit the helmet there I s'pose.
I got the bike from a gent near Dallas this summer found via an internet contact.  Its not perfect but I love her.  pics are on ext hard drive so maybe later.  Or just come see and ride it yourself!


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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2006, 04:52:03 AM »
I don't like helmet locks anyway, I've know of pissed (drunk)Aussies using peoples helmets for urinals, ha ha!:)

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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2006, 05:48:56 PM »
I don't like helmet locks anyway, I've know of pissed (drunk)Aussies using peoples helmets for urinals, ha ha!:)

Terry always makes me laugh

The real question was how Terry knows about that, and when was the last time?  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2006, 12:10:54 PM »
OK sorry to scare you with thoughts of hacking a beauty, I promise not to cut into any metal.
I still might attach the crash bars with1/4" steel tabs bolted on unless I find something that fits better.  And the sissy bar, no fender drillling scouts honor.  Once done, I can sit the helmet there I s'pose.
I got the bike from a gent near Dallas this summer found via an internet contact.  Its not perfect but I love her.  pics are on ext hard drive so maybe later.  Or just come see and ride it yourself!

I'm on my way mate! ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2006, 12:12:15 PM »
I don't like helmet locks anyway, I've know of pissed (drunk)Aussies using peoples helmets for urinals, ha ha!:)

Terry always makes me laugh

The real question was how Terry knows about that, and when was the last time?  ;D

Er, what time is it now?  ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2006, 01:46:30 PM »
I don't like helmet locks anyway, I've know of pissed (drunk)Aussies using peoples helmets for urinals, ha ha!:)

Terry always makes me laugh

The real question was how Terry knows about that, and when was the last time?  ;D

Er, what time is it now?  ;D

EXACTLY as I thought!   :D
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Re: Carrying spare helmet
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2006, 05:48:03 PM »
ha ha


I just thought it had rained yellow rain


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