Author Topic: Sprocket nuts hitting lower shock nuts after rear brake changed out (Read 4129 times)

gbal06 · « **on:** July 21, 2017, 11:39:29 AM »

I changed out the rear brakes and everything went back fine. As I was spinning the wheel I heard what I thought was the brake pads against the drum, but would only happen every 1/4 turn or so. That's when I saw this (see Pic) any ideas why they would be hitting. I thought I may have missed a spacer or something, but that is not the case. Thanks

754 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2017, 12:29:57 PM »

The stock shocks Dont use nuts for that reason. Try grinding back your sprocket nuts, or change the shocks.
You might be able to find a jam nut for the shock. Hope that is a spacer on the other side where the gap is.

innovativems · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2017, 12:40:50 PM »

What shocks are you running? Those springs look really close to the chain. Was it fine before you changed the brake shoes?

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flybox1 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2017, 12:44:12 PM »

flip the bolt around. put it in from the chain side.

PeWe · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2017, 12:53:35 PM »

Shock lower mount look too wide for the swing arm mount. Look like wrong shock for the bike in question

gbal06 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:16:41 PM »

that is a spacer. My question is it was running fine until the brake job

gbal06 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:17:29 PM »

Quote from: flybox1 on July 21, 2017, 12:44:12 PM

flip the bolt around. put it in from the chain side.

Ya running great without a problem

innovativems · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:20:00 PM »

I would make sure you have the right spacers on each side. Might have them flip flopped

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Don R · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:27:04 PM »

What he said^.

gbal06 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:30:06 PM »

Quote from: innovativems on July 21, 2017, 01:20:00 PM

I would make sure you have the right spacers on each side. Might have them flip flopped

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Does anyone have a pic of how the spacers should be? There was 1 on the right side about 2-3 inches that looks like a column and I don't remember seeing one on the left

innovativems · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:42:43 PM »

What model is your bike? Typically the left spacer will have a line around it from the seal since it fits inside it.

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gbal06 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:50:29 PM »

Quote from: innovativems on July 21, 2017, 01:42:43 PM

What model is your bike? Typically the left spacer will have a line around it from the seal since it fits inside it.

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1974 cb550

gbal06 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:54:42 PM »

do you have a pic of the left spacer?

CycleRanger · « **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2017, 02:09:08 PM »

Do you have a copy of the shop manual?
You can get one here if you don't.
http://www.honda4fun.com/materiale-documentazione-tecnica/shop-manual

gbal06 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2017, 03:40:08 PM »

why would that change if it was working before fine and was not removed during the installation of the new rear shoes?

754 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 21, 2017, 04:22:36 PM »

Something changed..we were not there .
Did you have sprocket carrier out of the hub...one spacer in there.
Did your chain move ahead? Something right in front of you.

gbal06 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 21, 2017, 08:30:13 PM »

I agree. The carrier did not come off of the wheel, I made note of where the chain adjusters were and placed them back on at the same mark.The only thing I can think of is that I may have put the collar(#17 in the manual) with the smaller side going into the wheel and not having the "larger" side going towards the wheel. Is that where the issue is?

scottly · « **Reply #17 on:** July 21, 2017, 08:54:35 PM »

Is it possible that the nuts were always hitting, but you never noticed it when riding? How many miles have been put on the bike since it was put together? The chain looks like it's never been lubed?

754 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2017, 09:20:05 PM »

Is the chain new and o ring, if it is it is probably touching/grinding your cases ahead of front sprocket.

gbal06 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2017, 08:22:34 AM »

I bought the bike used and has been a daily rider w/o issue. So its a possibilty

gbal06 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2017, 08:23:41 AM »

Chain and o-ring are not new and have been opn the bike since I have had it. It has about1500 miles on it

innovativems · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2017, 10:04:42 AM »

Trace your steps when you did the brakes. Something isn't correct then

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gbal06 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2017, 10:42:54 AM »

I agree, I am going to take it back apart tomorrow and look at everything. Can someone tell me which way #17 goes on? is it the big side toward the wheel or the small size (that slides in to the wheel) Thanks

gbal06 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2017, 10:44:10 AM »

Also why is there two different schematics for the rear wheel?

gbal06 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2017, 10:44:52 AM »

And this one

CycleRanger · « **Reply #25 on:** July 22, 2017, 10:50:00 AM »

Quote from: gbal06 on July 22, 2017, 10:44:10 AM

Also why is there two different schematics for the rear wheel?

The one I posted is from the parts list. The other is from the manual.

gbal06 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 22, 2017, 10:59:51 AM »

gotcha thanks

Airborne 82nd · « **Reply #27 on:** July 22, 2017, 11:49:22 AM »

Quote from: gbal06 on July 22, 2017, 10:42:54 AM

I agree, I am going to take it back apart tomorrow and look at everything. Can someone tell me which way #17 goes on? is it the big side toward the wheel or the small size (that slides in to the wheel) Thanks

17 is the inner tube goes inside the tire

754 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 22, 2017, 11:56:51 AM »

There may be 500 and 550 versions.

gbal06 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 22, 2017, 12:31:15 PM »

so for the 550k version which way should it go? Currently the smaller side is going towards the wheel.

innovativems · « **Reply #30 on:** July 22, 2017, 12:34:20 PM »

Quote from: gbal06 on July 22, 2017, 12:31:15 PM

so for the 550k version which way should it go? Currently the smaller side is going towards the wheel.

Like cal said

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gbal06 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 22, 2017, 12:50:03 PM »

Quote from: innovativems on July 22, 2017, 12:34:20 PM

Quote from: gbal06 on July 22, 2017, 12:31:15 PM
so for the 550k version which way should it go? Currently the smaller side is going towards the wheel.
Like cal said

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ok tomorrow I will take the wheel off and switch the collar to larger toward the wheel to see if that changes the spacing

gbal06 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 22, 2017, 02:51:08 PM »

Here is what the spacing looks like with the current collar

754 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 22, 2017, 03:26:10 PM »

Is that a nylon on the shockbolt, if so remove the washer behind it.

gbal06 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 22, 2017, 03:55:45 PM »

I don't believe it is but I am at work and will take a look at it tomorrow

Airborne 82nd · « **Reply #35 on:** July 23, 2017, 12:44:58 PM »

Quote from: calj737 on July 22, 2017, 11:55:30 AM

Quote from: Airborne 82nd on July 22, 2017, 11:49:22 AM
Quote from: gbal06 on July 22, 2017, 10:42:54 AM
I agree, I am going to take it back apart tomorrow and look at everything. Can someone tell me which way #17 goes on? is it the big side toward the wheel or the small size (that slides in to the wheel) Thanks

17 is the inner tube goes inside the tire
In his first linked picture, it's the collar. Fat end towards wheel-

Don't see why or how there are two different pic for same year and model something is not correct I thought cmsl uses the manual for there site pic. I think we are looking at two different bikes or models.
cal that was my poor attempt at humor

CycleRanger · « **Reply #36 on:** July 23, 2017, 02:06:00 PM »

The diagrams are the same only the part numbering is different.

754 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 23, 2017, 02:29:53 PM »

I think you mean the part illustration numbers are different .

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