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BSA_Mikael

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Honda CB500 four K1 project
« on: January 03, 2007, 07:02:58 AM »
Hi there, nice to find this site! I found the project bike pictured in Germany last summer and just started to re-assemble. It will slowly but safely go back to a more original shape, but I will likely keep it in the Café racer style since I have other british and japanese bikes that are original, or as close as it gets.

I am replacing some parts in the engine, for example a had a tooth missing on one of the gears in the gearbox, also some damages from a chain failure and "human bad treatment/habits" that eventually made me replace the cases to another very good set of used ones instead of spending time/money repairing the old ones. I took interest in reading the posts about crank bearing sizes. My conclusion is that my degree of confusion about the color coding of the shells, is not exclusive for me. ;D

Still, I would like to do this by the book, and therefore, I tried to get some sense out of the case markings discussed. How can these be translated to a measure, or other data that can relate to bearing shell size. ??? Can the numbers (Dont make any sense to me in the form they are displayed) be translated to the bore of the bearing shell seat bore? (Like 36.005 mm)

Looking in the manual, it seems fairly simple without using any stamped-on data, just to measure the bore of the bearing seats when the cases are bolted together and then that size will be wíthin the ranges listed in the manual, corresponding to the color codings of the various bearing shells listed. Or am I wrong?

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Re: Honda CB500 four K1 project
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007, 07:15:33 AM »
Like the seat !
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Re: Honda CB500 four K1 project
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 07:19:06 AM »
Like the seat !

Perhaps a Giuliari seat? i can't tell in the small pic.

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Re: Honda CB500 four K1 project
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2007, 07:25:47 AM »
It looks to be the ever rare white version...
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Re: Honda CB500 four K1 project
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2007, 07:47:56 AM »
 ;) I can verify it is a white Giuliari seat. Came with the bike, as did nice clip-ons, reinforced brake hoses and a nice (Need to work a little on their looks though) set of KONI rear shocks. Original 4-4 came with the bike but they leave a lot to wish, although no rust holes. I will replace them with original 4-4, but some would say I need a 4-1 to match the look of the bike ;)

I have to say "sorry" to those guys, I am the original 4-4 type of guy. I actually like the looks of those and think it gives a certain harmony to the look of the bike, even with a Café racer fashion ;D

I had a couple of CB 500:s from different years when I was younger, as well as a very nice CB450 Twin 1971. As much as I like British Iron, I have to admit it is very nice to be back in the world of japanese mechanics. I expect it to be the last time in my life I split a CB 500 f engine!  ;D ;D ;D

Reagards, Mikael

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Re: Honda CB500 four K1 project
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2007, 07:50:49 AM »
Well, welcome. It looks like you have a nice jump start on your little project. Can you post some larger pics?

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Re: Honda CB500 four K1 project
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2007, 08:09:45 AM »
I'll try to post some more and larger Pics. Thanks for the welcome, this site will surely be good to visit frequently! ;D

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Re: Honda CB500 four K1 project
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 09:12:17 AM »
You cannot measure acurately enough without calibrated air gauges to use the sizes shown in the table, The only useable alternative is to get a set of smallest shell and keep transfereing them hole to hole using plastigauge to determine clearance, or, as i have said before (and done several times) use all black code and run in carefully!
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Re: Honda CB500 four K1 project
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 02:53:45 AM »
Thanks Bryanj, I would go for that if the workshop I use dont have the accuracy needed. I will let them measure my crank anyway since I have it out and in parts, dont cost much to make sure it is perfect before it goes in again. If they cant measure accurate enough, no one else here can.