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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2018, 08:26:40 AM »
Im surprised that you old farts are that impressed!
Bet most of you are old enough to remember that past......


Like that time in 1971 that the USA managed to fire an electric car into space!
So this Tesla thing is kinda lame.

Mainly do to the fact that when the USA did it we then landed that car on the freaking moon and had a few guys drive it around for a while....

Moon Rover forever in our hearts.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2018, 08:33:14 AM »
Im surprised that you old farts are that impressed!
Bet most of you are old enough to remember that past......


Like that time in 1971 that the USA managed to fire an electric car into space!
So this Tesla thing is kinda lame.

Mainly do to the fact that when the USA did it we then landed that car on the freaking moon and had a few guys drive it around for a while....

Moon Rover forever in our hearts.

Still there, with the stereo playing . . something.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2018, 05:56:56 PM »


https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrails

I've tried explaining this distinction/fiction to people, but this is one that just won't go away no matter how illogical the "theory" is.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2018, 06:24:53 PM »
Why would they have to put that junk in the air?
Have you seen what they are already putting in the drinking water?

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2018, 06:53:05 PM »


https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrails

I've tried explaining this distinction/fiction to people, but this is one that just won't go away no matter how illogical the "theory" is.
Actually, what are known as the Contrails, are full of the chemical additives that make up jet fuel, and the military grade or JP4 fuel is mixed differently than the fuel used in commercial jets. Either way, it lays down a vapor trail which isn't CONdensation only, but has a CHEMical element to it. This is distinguished from the vapor off of wing tips of jets at higher altitude which make the CONtrails, vs the exhaust from jet engines which make the CHEMtrails...
Now, if you observe the trails from jet engines, they do not simply disappear, but spread out into a thin veil of cirrus like clouds which don't disperse and vanish. This has an artificial element to it, and isn't a natural reaction to a high speed object traveling through atmosphere making CONdensation trails. If you think about it, not only do these chemicals from the kerosene based fuel stay in the atmosphere, they act like a 'filter' for sunlight. The sun is a very broad spectrum light which can be filtered to give different effects upon living organisms. Too much UV and you fry... but that is only one of a broad spectrum of light frequencies that the sun contains, and a lot of the frequencies are invisible to the eye. But, not to the 'filter'. Filters can block, or pass certain wavelengths of light, depending on how the filter is constructed... and so, what is actually being passed or obstructed by the trails that spread out and become the 'filter'?
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #55 on: February 11, 2018, 06:55:30 PM »
That didn't take long.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #56 on: February 11, 2018, 07:00:31 PM »
This pretty well explains it.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2018, 07:01:18 PM »
But, really its not a conspiracy, just byproducts of combustion, and the lack of really thinking about what the after-effects of that can produce from an industry that can't find a better fuel... and then agin.. or... ISIT?   :o :o :o
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2018, 07:03:52 PM »
But seriously, I'm glad that I'm now in an area that isn't being sprayed a hundred times a day. That crap had me wearing my tinfoil hat daily.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2018, 07:05:55 PM »
Tinfoil only protects you from the alien influence of their mind-control devices, and not the sunlight... unless you wrap your private parts in it also, then you can be broasted from both ends.
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2018, 07:09:35 PM »
I normally wear tinfoil like a diaper. I figure that will at least block unwanted intrusion into that area...

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2018, 07:11:33 PM »
... probably works better than the Dalcon Shield did...
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2018, 07:17:26 PM »
On a more serious note... We went out to watch the launch. It's pretty amazing to see in person. Although the main body basically crashed on landing, the two booster rockets came back down and landed like they owned the place. Pretty cool. And no Charlie, I left the cat at home, safely in her blanket.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2018, 07:22:19 AM »


https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrails

I've tried explaining this distinction/fiction to people, but this is one that just won't go away no matter how illogical the "theory" is.

Welcome to the WWW where truth is defined by how many times you heard it.   :{

Seriously carnivorous chicken no one cares anymore if the source is dependable nor can they be bothered to check.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2018, 08:05:18 AM »
Recently declassified photo of US warplanes employing light-blocking chem con trails over nazi Germany during WWII.
The goal was to cause rickets among the German army thus degrading their ability to fight.
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2018, 08:15:16 AM »
Recently declassified photo of US warplanes employing light-blocking chem con trails over nazi Germany during WWII.
The goal was to cause rickets among the German army thus degrading their ability to fight.

Now, those ARE contrails, as it is water vapor off the wingtips... and those are prop driven planes, not jet engines... hehe.
Different fuel being used also... aviation gas and jet fuel are very different.
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2018, 08:26:20 AM »
Recently declassified photo of US warplanes employing light-blocking chem con trails over nazi Germany during WWII.
The goal was to cause rickets among the German army thus degrading their ability to fight.

Now, those ARE contrails, as it is water vapor off the wingtips... and those are prop driven planes, not jet engines... hehe.
Different fuel being used also... aviation gas and jet fuel are very different.
Charlie

Wingtips...?  tail fin only! Clearly a chem spray system of some kind. Still, I'm not sure it would meet either definition?
 

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2018, 08:43:30 AM »
Recently declassified photo of US warplanes employing light-blocking chem con trails over nazi Germany during WWII.
The goal was to cause rickets among the German army thus degrading their ability to fight.

Now, those ARE contrails, as it is water vapor off the wingtips... and those are prop driven planes, not jet engines... hehe.
Different fuel being used also... aviation gas and jet fuel are very different.
Charlie

Wingtips...?  tail fin only! Clearly a chem spray system of some kind. Still, I'm not sure it would meet either definition?
I will clarify lol... rear tail fin and rear wing tips..there are 3 trails behind each plane.
Charlie
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #68 on: February 12, 2018, 08:45:11 AM »
Clearly a chemical spray with a totally reasonable, logical and achievable goal of blocking out all of the light over Germany to induce rickets, combined with an intense bombardment of all tin-foil factories to really render them defenseless.

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #69 on: February 12, 2018, 10:11:27 AM »
You can hop aboard for a peek if you wish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3niFzo5VLI

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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2018, 11:03:03 AM »
Where do y’all get this stuff. Whether it’s a B 17 at higher altitudes or a commercial airliner, it is condensation from the exhaust , the moisture in the exhaust cooling rapidly along with the combustion air returning to atmospheric pressure which at 35,000 ft is low , causes the  visible moisture. Depending on the humidity at the altitude, temp, and the winds aloft, determines the shape, and duration. I’ve passed aircraft where the contrail disappears quickly, and other times can last for minutes. Wing tip vortices ( basically a horizontal,mini tornado) can also affect the shape....Doesn’t matter what the fuel or what’s in it,we use mil spec fuel in commercial aircraft, gasoline in WW II.... It’s the moisture, that’s it....maybe the burned additives that have endured temps of 1500c might contribute something, but I doubt it....
    Wing tip condensation/ contrails mainly occur during high lift/ drag configurations of the aircraft, mainly rotation at takeoff and flaring for landing. Extension of the wing air brake ( spoiler)  can cause condensation. And upon touchdown as the ground spoilers deploy, condensation can sometimes be seen for a few seconds. But, this only happens on high humidity days such asfog, mist, rain ,etc...Wing  tip condensation,at high altitudes with substantially lower humidity than the surface and low drag , high speed configuration does not normally occur....
     Watch this video, the center one. You’ll see 4 contrails ,each from the 4 B17 engines and there is a segment showing two P 38’s pulling two contrails each.....
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #71 on: February 12, 2018, 11:10:38 AM »
You can hop aboard for a peek if you wish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3niFzo5VLI
Really cool man!
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #72 on: February 12, 2018, 12:01:01 PM »
Oh my. So happy to have found this thread.
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #73 on: February 12, 2018, 02:37:11 PM »
Where do y’all get this stuff.
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Re: Falcon Heavy & Starman
« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2018, 02:49:15 PM »
LOL!