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Offline FJ40toy

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CB750F - Rebuilt engine problems
« on: July 16, 2018, 05:21:41 PM »
Hoping someone can help me out. This is a 78 CB750F that I have rebuilt the engine with the following modifications; bored to an 836, mild port job, and a mild cam. The porting and cylinder boring were done by MRieck and the cam is the CX-2 cam from Cycle Exchange. The carbs are stock, but have been cleaned and rebuilt.

My issue is the engine will start and idle fine, but the minute I give it any gas it wants to die unless I feather the throttle to keep it going. Once above 3,000 rpm it runs ok. I have double checked the point gap, timing, carb float level, sync the carbs, set pilot screw to 1 1/2 turns out and up to 2 turns out with no change. Replaced the coils and spark plug caps with no change. I have also checked the tappet clearance and that checks out. Spark plugs are also new. I have also replaced the carb-to-intake boots as the originals were hard as a rock. I have checked and rechecked the slow circuit in the carbs and the accelerator pump works on all four.

I did degree the camshaft. Initially I set the cam to the cam card, but it ran like carp. Figured out the cam card was wrong once I looked up the specs for the cam. Had initially set the intake to 5 ATDC opening, when it should be 22 BTDC. I don't think that damaged anything, but haven't taken the head off to look at it as compression is around 150 psi.

When checking the point gap and timing, again today, I noticed there was a lot of arcing coming from the 1-4 point set. I checked the condensers and they both checked out at 24pf as the shop manual states. I also can not get the 2-3 cylinder correctly timed. It is currently halfway between the "T" and "F" mark and I have no more adjustment. The 1-4 cylinders are good.

Sorry for the book, but I am at my wits end on this. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for the help.
1978 CB750F, 1973 XL250 Motosport, 1982 FT500 Ascot(engine rebuild), 2000 VTR1000F Superhawk, 1974 CB550 (waiting for rebuild)

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Re: CB750F - Rebuilt engine problems
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 12:31:54 AM »
When cold only when it need choke or the issue will continue with warm engine without choke?
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Re: CB750F - Rebuilt engine problems
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2018, 03:26:55 AM »
When cold and hot. I tried pulling the choke  out and it seemed to help a little.

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Re: CB750F - Rebuilt engine problems
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2018, 02:31:32 AM »
I think it may be a jetting issue. The main jet is a 110 and the slow is a 40. Will order larger ones and see how that effects the engine.

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Re: CB750F - Rebuilt engine problems
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2018, 02:55:26 PM »
Ok, so the slow jets were actually 35, changed to 45 with 1 turn out on the mixture screw. A lot better now!
Spoke with Kenny from CycleX and he suggested I time the bike to full advance rather than to the "F" mark. Did that and the top end is better as well. It used to flatten out at about 8k and pop like it was lean. Not anymore.
Have a flat spot from 4k to 6k. Ordered some shims for the needles, otherwise the bike is running much better.
Will re-sync the carbs after I install the needle shims. The shims are .020" thick.
1978 CB750F, 1973 XL250 Motosport, 1982 FT500 Ascot(engine rebuild), 2000 VTR1000F Superhawk, 1974 CB550 (waiting for rebuild)

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Re: CB750F - Rebuilt engine problems
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2018, 07:41:05 PM »

When checking the point gap and timing, again today, I noticed there was a lot of arcing coming from the 1-4 point set. I checked the condensers and they both checked out at 24pf as the shop manual states. I also can not get the 2-3 cylinder correctly timed. It is currently halfway between the "T" and "F" mark and I have no more adjustment. The 1-4 cylinders are good.


Not having enough adjustment to correctly set the timing is a red flag, as well as arcing.. Daiitchi points and condensers???
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