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Offline Can550

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1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« on: January 30, 2019, 08:49:02 PM »
Hi,
Would like to know the colours difference between 75 and 76 550 super sports.

Is there any difference between 75 and 76 Orange colours/paints since model guide shows different colour names for orange from sunflake to shiny?

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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2019, 12:05:21 AM »
What model guide?
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2019, 03:37:30 AM »
 The 1976 sunflake orange had metallic flake in it.

 The 1975 shiny orange didn't have any flake.



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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2019, 05:47:13 AM »
no...1975 550f colors: sunrise metalflake orange.    candy sapphire blue
       1976 550f colors: sapphire metalflake blue.     shiny orange

this is a 1975 original, unrestored....
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2019, 08:26:31 AM »
 Well, mine was a '75, all original and unrestored.  I do think it was late production.... maybe October, if I remember correctly?
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2019, 08:39:22 AM »
it gets confusing. Here are honda brochures, and cycle magazine Sept, 1975 that describes colors.  The 1975 550f debut was mid spring, possibly april. I can , if you want, show as much evidence for that if you want me to. My point, though, is that a sept magazine is actually assembled months before, maybe as late as july, but probably june, especially way back then.
   be sure and look at the publishing dates
and, not to beat a dead horse, but notice the brown seat in the 1975 brochure.
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2019, 08:46:15 AM »
I believe the honda guide , although it has mistakes in it, supports the colors. I was gonna run down to my honda expert who has the guide and look , but he may not be open...too cold ....but i'm sure we've looked at it before.
i also have other brochures,  however with mistakes in them, so, like i said, it gets confusing.
but also, here's this from lubritech.
   and, that's a nice bike, i believe was in the vjmc magazine. Not factory wheels ,as i'm sure you know, but are period correct lester's ?...i think?
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2019, 09:45:15 AM »
 Mine had the brown seat. That's a '75 thing, right?
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2019, 10:16:30 AM »
I have a 75 CB550F with metallic flake orange paint and a brown seat, not sure why unless the seat, tank and side covers were swapped from a 76?
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2019, 10:22:36 AM »
yes, and 76......here's the problem with our/ honda 75/76 bikes...you're not the original owner i bet, neither am I . Since I'm not the original owner,  I have been challenged, even by so called experts...and didn't have answers...now i do....so... i know at least for our year bikes, tanks and side covers are interchangeable . The question, in this particular case, how do we know our tanks and side covers haven't been switched.....well, there is the frame and engine numbers which are appropriate for the model years....I have to make the assumption ( i hate doing that) that those publized numbers are correct...mine do fit.......
     There are some subtleties i've uncovered, here is one. You have a tire warning decal on your chain cover. And i bet the same one on your rear fender. If you look at a 1975 1st issue Honda parts book, it does not show a decal for the chain guard. It does for the rear fender. The 76 shows a decal for the chain guard......bbbuuutttt.....
guess what, my bike is a 75, but had that decal on it in 1994 when i found it...
.......and...when i purchased brand new in 1976, my F model ,it did have both stickers and they were the same........
This is my point when i said it gets confusing.........have you run your frame and engine numbers?.......my frame is a dec/74 number.......

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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2019, 10:23:20 AM »
I have a 75 CB550F with metallic flake orange paint and a brown seat, not sure why unless the seat, tank and side covers were swapped from a 76?

you have a 1975...as far as colors go.......frame and engine numbers can help further identify..
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2019, 10:59:31 AM »
I have a 75 CB550F with metallic flake orange paint and a brown seat, not sure why unless the seat, tank and side covers were swapped from a 76?

you have a 1975...as far as colors go.......frame and engine numbers can help further identify..
I believe Bro n seat was only 76 one year thing


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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2019, 11:03:41 AM »
no, it is not just 76, also 75....re read the 1975 brochure......look up the part numbers for the seat coat for 1975, and 1976...both are the same.....which is 77270-390-000.....75,76 only

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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2019, 11:09:01 AM »
I have a 75 CB550F with metallic flake orange paint and a brown seat, not sure why unless the seat, tank and side covers were swapped from a 76?

you have a 1975...as far as colors go.......frame and engine numbers can help further identify..
I believe Bro n seat was only 76 one year thing


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk.  here is this from november,1975 Big Bike magazine......
no...here are pics from the Nov/75, Big Bike magazine...
sorry about the upside down pic.....and the beach pic? i just thought i'd throw that in there.
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2019, 11:25:18 AM »
The colors are all listed in the first few pages of the CB550F parts lists (with their codes).
http://www.honda4fun.com/materiale-documentazione-tecnica/parts-list/parts-list-cb550 
You will notice there were three models: CB550F, CB550F1 and CB550F2.
You may also consult: http://www.honda4fun.com/materiale-documentazione-tecnica/colori The latter not checked by me and possibly incomplete.
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2019, 11:34:32 AM »
Here is a page from The Honda Motorcycle Identification Guide, a book published by American Honda.  It's a rather large book with everything Honda made up 'til 1986 ish.

It notes the colors.  Both the 75 tanks were were a really bold metal flake.  The flakes were large and the paint translucent and many coat layers over the flake.  The 76 Orange has no flakes, pretty close to the Orange Crush brand color.  The blue was very small flake metallic, with a lighter blue hue, likely spayed as a blue metallic mix, so the tiny flakes can get through the gun.

Note: It only states the Brown seat for 1976 only.

My 75 Cb550 F came to me much neglected, and a ratty Black vinyl seat. 
My 76 came to me with torn Brown seat, which I replaced with a new Honda seat.  The first delivery came in black.  The second replacement from Honda parts dept came in brown.

I kept the first delivery black seat to put on the 75 F.  And my 1976 got the brown one, which goes well the Shiny Orange, imo.

The 75F came to me with the orange metalflake tank and side covers, which I still have, faded apart from the place the sun avoided.  The tank had rust through pin holes.  The bone yard had a Blue metalflake tank from 75 that was clean inside, so I put that on 75 to make it operational.  Still has the orange side covers, though.  :)   I still have the orange tank.

Years ago I bought  a metallic blue 76 style tank and side covers for the 75, even though the metal flake blue is wrong for the year, it's pretty and looks better than what I have on it now.  If I only had the fuel valve for it....

Believe in the "internet experts" or magazine editors if you wish.  I'll take my ques from Honda on this matter.

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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2019, 11:56:14 AM »
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2019, 12:16:15 PM »
a boneyard tank....great documentation......absence of a color in a document does not mean any proof of any color, except in imaginations....or bluster.
      And offial honda brochures and part numbers , backed up with magazines of the times are not internet stories. Huffing about beat up bikes in boneyards as official documentation is, well,  laughable.
      and you can +1 all you want, it's your bike, don't enter it as an authentic restoration.

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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2019, 12:19:20 PM »
I saw the boneyard bike the blue tank was removed from, headstock said, 1975.  Talk about your bluster...
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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2019, 12:27:06 PM »
There’s nothing personal or point scoring here my friends. I’m far behind than most of here when it comes to experience on these old bikes. I’m a learner.

+1 or +2 from me does not reflect validation of someone’s authentic evidence but and effort to come back with research that has been put forward for everyone’s benefit.

I have a 75 in blue. Tank has several pinholes, I got an other tank off a 78 550k. Wanted to get it painted in blue but then a fellow member offered an orange good condition tank off his 76. Looking at model guide I noticed two different names for orange respectively in 75 and 76. Before buying 76 tank I thought it will be a good thing to check with you guys who have restored more bikes than I can think of

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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2019, 12:31:21 PM »
no...1975 550f colors: sunrise metalflake orange.    candy sapphire blue
       1976 550f colors: sapphire metalflake blue.     shiny orange

this is a 1975 original, unrestored....
Looks beautiful in sun


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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2019, 12:36:31 PM »
thank you....and that's what I was trying to do for you. Not my opinion, not my personal beliefs, but what is out there as documentation, not what i think.  I haven't restored any bikes but have learned that digging for the correct info is exacting, tedious, interesting and ,sometimes iffy.
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1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2019, 12:41:18 PM »
thank you....and that's what I was trying to do for you. Not my opinion, not my personal beliefs, but what is out there as documentation, not what i think.  I haven't restored any bikes but have learned that digging for the correct info is exacting, tedious, interesting and ,sometimes iffy.
I claim nothing except facts.
I like your point of “confused”. You are so right about we not being the first or even second owner in most cases.

I removed throttle cables, measured and ordered new. Then found out handlebars were not correct, so sourced correct handlebars and guess what? Now throttle cables are wrong being long.

I guess every old bike that seen changing names on ownership, has also seen personal preference of each owner. Putting them back to stock isn’t like doing a search on eBay :)

I remain hopeful that valuable experience of so many guys here is worth every effort in doing so.

As my tank sits waiting its fate



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Re: 1975-76 CB550F colour guide help
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2019, 12:44:34 PM »
is that what you want to do? are you trying to be original? My bike has been scrutinized by judges from various organizations. I'd be happy to help.

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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2019, 12:45:24 PM »
That would great


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