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Offline erleiniw

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ELI5: 4 valve per cylinder SOHC vs 4 valve per cylinder DOHC
« on: December 20, 2019, 07:21:56 AM »
Hello everyone,

on 4 valves/cylinder SOHC, a single lobe on the camshaft pushes 2 valves,

and on DOHC, a single camshaft lobe pushes 1 valve.

on my logic, it seems SOHC is better since there is 1 less moving parts walmartone (1 less camshaft)

but in reality, i see more and more everyday economical cars use 4 valve SOHC
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Re: ELI5: 4 valve per cylinder SOHC vs 4 valve per cylinder DOHC
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2019, 09:43:09 AM »
DOHC motors have less moving parts because the cam lobe pushes directly on the valves eliminating the followers and adjusters.
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Re: ELI5: 4 valve per cylinder SOHC vs 4 valve per cylinder DOHC
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2019, 12:09:52 PM »
More freedom how to time the cams with Dohc. Adjust the duration and overlap. High compression causing pinging, open it up for more overlap as long as valves runs free from each other and pistons. The other way possible too, decrease overlap , increase compression.

Sohc cam has less tuning possibilities.  You cant change in vs ex relation (overlap) except  just a little by  different valve lash. More lash, less duration and  overlap. Less lift too.

I guess ex can like some extra lash on some cams.
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Re: ELI5: 4 valve per cylinder SOHC vs 4 valve per cylinder DOHC
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2019, 06:15:49 AM »
More freedom how to time the cams with Dohc. Adjust the duration and overlap. High compression causing pinging, open it up for more overlap as long as valves runs free from each other and pistons. The other way possible too, decrease overlap , increase compression.

Sohc cam has less tuning possibilities.  You cant change in vs ex relation (overlap) except  just a little by  different valve lash. More lash, less duration and  overlap. Less lift too.

I guess ex can like some extra lash on some cams.
Also easier reduce the valve angle with 2 cams giving you a smaller, more efficient chamber.
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Re: ELI5: 4 valve per cylinder SOHC vs 4 valve per cylinder DOHC
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2019, 06:30:57 AM »
More freedom how to time the cams with Dohc. Adjust the duration and overlap. High compression causing pinging, open it up for more overlap as long as valves runs free from each other and pistons. The other way possible too, decrease overlap , increase compression.

Sohc cam has less tuning possibilities.  You cant change in vs ex relation (overlap) except  just a little by  different valve lash. More lash, less duration and  overlap. Less lift too.

I guess ex can like some extra lash on some cams.
Also easier reduce the valve angle with 2 cams giving you a smaller, more efficient chamber.
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The billet block build thread
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CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
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K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
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