Topic: Is oil change possible with this configuration?

[amitr0]

This is how PO installed the exhausts. Is the expectation to take apart the exhausts before doing an oil change? This also makes it hard to put the mc on a jack, the junction where the 4 pipes meet is smack at the bottom of the frame/engine.

[bryanj]

I believe you can get the filter housing out with a degree in origami, i think when you remove the drain bolt oil runs over the pipes

[Tracksnblades1]

I believe you can get the filter housing out with a degree in origami, i think when you remove the drain bolt oil runs over the pipes

+1

Looks like the outside two are carrying the inside two..

[newday777]

This is how PO installed the exhausts. Is the expectation to take apart the exhausts before doing an oil change? This also makes it hard to put the mc on a jack, the junction where the 4 pipes meet is smack at the bottom of the frame/engine.

That is the fault of the exhaust design, it was designed to give the most clearance in hard cornering.(not the PO fault)
To change the oil, cut some aluminum flashing sheet stock to make a troth to get the oil drained out off over the pipes to the drain pan.

[RAFster122s]

Remote filter would eliminate that at the added expense and complexity of the relocation. If it were over 836cc in displacement or spent it's life in a hot environment like the desert then it would be beneficial to relocate and add an oil cooler. Remote filter kits from cars are available using vertical mounting of the filter.
Getting the filter away from the exhaust and engine would cool the oil a bit by itself if you can get the oil hoses away from the exhaust.

All that said, would be cheaper and easier to put a Handle or Delvekic exhaust on it and sell this one to someone who races or wants the frustration of it...

[amitr0]

Remote filter would eliminate that at the added expense and complexity of the relocation. If it were over 836cc in displacement or spent it's life in a hot environment like the desert then it would be beneficial to relocate and add an oil cooler. Remote filter kits from cars are available using vertical mounting of the filter.
Getting the filter away from the exhaust and engine would cool the oil a bit by itself if you can get the oil hoses away from the exhaust.

All that said, would be cheaper and easier to put a Handle or Delvekic exhaust on it and sell this one to someone who races or wants the frustration of it...

I looked at delkevic's last night, all of their exhausts have a similar configuration. Now, it might be that the separation between the left 2 and the right 2 is slightly more, invisible in the stocks pics on their website, giving more clearance to grab the air filter casing out, but only someone who has one will be able to tell if they are any better

[amitr0]

I believe you can get the filter housing out with a degree in origami, i think when you remove the drain bolt oil runs over the pipes

What a mess that would be, but then again, how do I change the oil filter

[amitr0]

This is how PO installed the exhausts. Is the expectation to take apart the exhausts before doing an oil change? This also makes it hard to put the mc on a jack, the junction where the 4 pipes meet is smack at the bottom of the frame/engine.

That is the fault of the exhaust design, it was designed to give the most clearance in hard cornering.(not the PO fault)
To change the oil, cut some aluminum flashing sheet stock to make a troth to get the oil drained out off over the pipes to the drain pan.

Changing the oil filter would still need a temoval though

[seanbarney41]

The filter will come out with some careful maneuvering.  Oil is probably gonna get on the pipes when you drain it.  Probably shouldn't try it in the living room.  Other than that, what is so hard about all of this?

[BenelliSEI]

The filter will come out with some careful maneuvering.  Oil is probably gonna get on the pipes when you drain it.  Probably shouldn't try it in the living room.  Other than that, what is so hard about all of this?

+1. Just use a large drip pan and wipe down the pipes when your done?

[ekpent]

 Lot of modern bikes like my Bandit 1200 and many other inline 4's can get a little sloppy also. Nature of the beast. Not that hard to clean with rags or brake cleaner or other potions and the pipes will look better then ever when done.

[BomberMann650]

Kinda look like MAC headers.

If they are, then filter housing comes in and out just fine.  Reaching the drain bolt should be easy too

Some aluminum foil makes a nifty "no mess" drain spout for both areas.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

The Delkevic set allows for both easy oil changes with everything in place as well as retaining the center stand.

Pictures of my orange bike with the Delkevic here: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,188041.0.html 

[amitr0]

The filter will come out with some careful maneuvering.  Oil is probably gonna get on the pipes when you drain it.  Probably shouldn't try it in the living room.  Other than that, what is so hard about all of this?

I wish, it was that simple. I tried, there is no way to get it out. I suspect there was a crash bending the pipes in a way that now they interfere.

[HondaMan]

I wish I had some pictures of some of the "me too" headers that came out (and soon disappeared) for these bikes in the 1970s. There were 2 sets (4-1 and 4-2)  and a set of TT pipes with a cross-bracket on their ends that was held by the rear lower engine mount, from one vendor who's name I've forgotten (as has everyone else, they vanished quickly) that were cheap and shiny, but made it 100% impossible to remove the oil filter without first removing the pipes. And, the 4-1 and TT sets actually touched the oil plug bolt on the bottom of the 750's engine, so you couldn't even drain the engine, either, until the pipes were gone.

[desertrefugee]

Just add the cost of exhaust donut gaskets into your oil change and drop the header. Not a big deal.

Alternatively, a spin on filter conversion would probably make the job quite a bit easier. I'm not sure you can find the bases anymore. They used to be common, now not so much.

[bryanj]

You dont have to actualy get the filter housing out, just turn it enough to remove the filter, dont loose the spring and washer