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Offline Kenzo1979

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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2022, 04:57:28 PM »
Oh and back to the wire harness… is it a 500 wire harness?  You claim your bike is a 500 with a 550 engine, but is anything else 550’d besides the engine…handle bar controls, front turn signals (dual element-riding lights), the electrical panel itself?  If so, there were differences that could impact the harness.


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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2022, 04:59:12 PM »
Ok, I guess I can understand that.  But I find that brace to be comforting.  You can probably find another fender from a member or on eBay, etc. pretty easily if you want it on there.  I also like the way it holds my speedo cable and brake line.


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Yea, honestly I would kind of like to have the fender back on it especially if it's important for the 'stability' of the bike at higher speeds...

There are about $160 for reproduction fender on eBay plus 80 for shipping. Not sure that is worth it for me or not. I could try to straighten out the old one I guess or look for one of these so-called fork braces?

I had to zip tie the brake line in lieu of the fender holding it, not an ideal solution.
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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2022, 10:26:17 AM »
Oh and back to the wire harness… is it a 500 wire harness?  You claim your bike is a 500 with a 550 engine, but is anything else 550’d besides the engine…handle bar controls, front turn signals (dual element-riding lights), the electrical panel itself?  If so, there were differences that could impact the harness.


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I bought the harness for the 500. As far as I can tell they didn't change much else, but I'm not 100% sure about the electrical panel, the panel like I said was largely bypassed in the wiring job they did, so I would be surprised if it was replaced. The handlebar controls are definitely from a 500 as I replaced the original with an aftermarket 500 kit since they were busted. I have no front turn signals (wouldn't mind adding some at some point).
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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2022, 11:38:23 AM »
Can you post a picture of your electrical panel?


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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2022, 12:22:48 PM »
This is the kit for the 627B from 4into1, but again, I cannot attest to the accuracy or quality.


https://4into1.com/ultimate-carburetor-repair-kit-honda-cb500k-1971-1973/


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For what it matters, I have a '56 550K, US model almost all stock, and recently tried overhauling the carbs for the same reason as OP. I got the corresponding kit from 4into1 and the first thing I noticed was that the drain screw didn't fit the bowls.

This is the second time I go something from 4into1 and it didn't fit my stock bike, the other time was about engine casing bolts, none of them were even the right sizes, and then i went back and checked, in the fine print they had written 'some of these might not fit your motorcycle' in the posting itself.

I don't think I will give 4into1 a third chance after these two encounters.

Lessons learnt : Not to throw away anything before actually installing the aftermarket replacements, no matter how badly damaged they look.

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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2022, 12:46:06 PM »
Can you post a picture of your electrical panel?


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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2022, 01:03:24 PM »
Well that’s a 550 panel.  Pretty sure none of the 500’s had the 3 fuse setup.  Just 1 inline 15A fuse under a plastic barrel enclosure.  Not that they were extremely different, but there can be some differences. I honestly can’t tell from the picture what would be different though.


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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2022, 01:13:04 PM »
Well that’s a 550 panel.  Pretty sure none of the 500’s had the 3 fuse setup.  Just 1 inline 15A fuse under a plastic barrel enclosure.  Not that they were extremely different, but there can be some differences. I honestly can’t tell from the picture what would be different though.


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Interesting, I wonder why they put it on but didn't really wire it up...

It seems like fixing the wiring is gonna be a pretty big pain. Redoing everything will likely take me a couple of days if not more if I run into issues with compatibility. Is there some type of quick fix maybe that I can put in a fuse or two in the circuit for safety sake?
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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2022, 01:13:59 PM »
It has a very cheap cicular flasher can hanging below the rubber the " us normal" rectangular one fits and i think the original type starter safety circuit box is what should be above the fuse box which is missing its lid.
The 500 only ever had a single fuse
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Re: CB550 Carb question (Keihin 627B)
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2022, 01:22:18 PM »
Yeah, for basic protection splice a 15A fuse in the red wire going from Battery Positive to the Electrical Panel Connector that feeds the Ignition Key Switch. 

Check the wiring diagram:

http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb500/technical_reference/WD500C.pdf


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