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Offline Twrench

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650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« on: December 31, 2024, 05:18:42 PM »
The pit gets deeper ! Short version. Will a 500 or 550 LOWER case fit a 1979 650 case. Or, how do I fix this ? Appreciate any help or humor. Having fun.

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Re: 650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2024, 06:17:12 PM »
1 No it wont

2Cases have to be in pairs

3 you need a different engine
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Offline Flyin900

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Re: 650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2024, 06:47:18 PM »
If you have the broken part maybe a TIG welder can repair it, yet the threads inside maybe an issue for the bolt threading into the bung.
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Re: 650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2024, 07:04:16 PM »
Broken portion is gone from a previous owner. I agree, matching up threads would be a pain. As a last ditch effort I'm going to put in a greased bolt, pin and build up a JB molded collar in place. Trim and level it as best as I can. This project has been expensive and time consuming. Unexpected problems are constant. I'm at the end of my rope and may cut my loses. I've been trying to simplify life and not doing well with this. Learned a great deal but I really can't afford it any more.

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Re: 650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2024, 07:20:13 PM »
JB Weld will never stand up to the torque/pressure required to seal the filter canister. Time to cut your losses. As Bryan noted a complete engine case replacement will be required and all the associated costs of transferring the internals etc.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2024, 07:21:56 PM by Flyin900 »
Common sense.....isn't so common!

1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
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Re: 650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2025, 09:37:44 AM »
Thanks or the replies. Throwing in the towel. I've replaced or repaired to many things on this project. Over the last couple of years I've learned a great deal about Hondas and developed some good repair skills at a steep price. Time to turn my focus back to other projects and hobbies. I'll list parts on the classified here as I get the courage too. Cheap to free. Thanks again, Tom.

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Re: 650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2025, 09:39:43 AM »
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Re: 650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2025, 10:24:32 AM »
The only fix (other than replacement cases) I can think of is to cut the rest off, somehow smooth the face off, have a machine shop make a replacement aluminum threaded stub, and have it welded to the the case.

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Re: 650 oil filter bolt broken case threads
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2025, 10:54:31 AM »
Yes I would split the cases and have a threaded stub made and Locktite that in or weld.
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