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Offline dhall57

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SS United States
« on: February 25, 2025, 02:51:09 PM »
With all the billions and billions this country gives away to other countries every day and with all the millionares and billionaires that live in this country why can't this grand old ship be saved. What a shame for it to purposely sunk off the Florida coast to be a artificial reef for fish. :( all these years later it still holds the record for crossing the Atlantic.
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2025, 05:26:27 PM »
Yeah. It was a beautiful ship. Flew over it many times in and out of Phl.
There were many attempts and false starts for decades. Rumors of : museum, restaurant, stores (mall), casino, exterior restoration as an historic preservation, actual renovation and return to limited service, stuff like that.
Suuposedly one stack will be saved, restored and displayed at a maritime museum on the coast where it will be sunk..just looks fast. Allegedly, the engines of a battle ship without the weight of armor and munitions.
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2025, 05:50:30 PM »
I wonder if a certain ex newyorker/now Florida guy.....and a EV guy even know about this ship.....
maybe someone should point it out to them....I can't, I am not on any social chat mediums....just say'n.
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2025, 06:36:11 PM »
It’ll probably be illegally scrapped for its pre Nuke steel after it’s sank…
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2025, 06:46:28 PM »
well, dhall got me thinking. I'm kinda serious.....I'm sentimental that way. I guess I just like old vintage cool stuff and hate to see it go when there might be a last ditch answer. There was a conservatorship involved but donating to those you just never no where the money goes.....but a nationwide effort maybe, with substantial backing?........eh, 🫤, food for thought....

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Re: SS United States
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2025, 08:03:17 PM »
It’ll probably be illegally scrapped for its pre Nuke steel after it’s sank…

It's post-nuke.
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2025, 09:16:47 PM »
It’ll probably be illegally scrapped for its pre Nuke steel after it’s sank…

It's post-nuke.

That must be why it’s going to be a reef ornament…🤔
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2025, 09:39:31 PM »
It’ll probably be illegally scrapped for its pre Nuke steel after it’s sank…
Would it be worth the expense of an underwater salvage operation, even if it was legal? Last I heard, scrap steel was going for less than $200 a ton.
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2025, 10:57:22 PM »
She looks 'Sleek'  8)
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2025, 11:10:32 PM »
It’ll probably be illegally scrapped for its pre Nuke steel after it’s sank…
Would it be worth the expense of an underwater salvage operation, even if it was legal? Last I heard, scrap steel was going for less than $200 a ton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

Pre-atomic steel is worth considerably more.
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2025, 12:11:20 AM »
It’ll probably be illegally scrapped for its pre Nuke steel after it’s sank…
Would it be worth the expense of an underwater salvage operation, even if it was legal? Last I heard, scrap steel was going for less than $200 a ton.

Some WW2 ships sank in shallow international waters have already been scrapped.
There was a special that highlighted this practice and discussed the legalities of such, including ones that had been declared tombs (memorials) memorials for lost soldiers..I’m thinking it was a German ship that was the topic..

It originally came to light when a legit overseas scrap iron dealer purchased large loads of pre-nuke steel that contained partial skeletons. An investigation lead to a missing known nearby sank WW2 ship(s) At the known location only a few parts of the ship remained.. The show indicated that the salvage companys will always have permits for other more modern ships near the sank pre-nuke ships.

I remember it being one of those everyone has a badge but nobody knows who’s in charge..
It’s my understanding pre nuke steel has a “low background” and is used for very sensitive instruments that can’t have any inherent background radiation like post nuke steels do. If I am remembering all this correctly, I think it’s high tech, high end medical, aviation, space, and military equipment that they’re using the pre nuke steel in..

It’s been awhile and it was going to sleep material..🤪

I’m not for sure what they get for ton for it..I’m sure they said but I don’t remember..
I watched how they cut large sections of the ships apart and floated or hoisted them up using very purpose built ships. One salvage ship could be partially submerged to get under the floating wreckage (sometime the whole sank ship) and then the ballast water is pumped out to raise the salvage ship with the wreckage aboard..

I’m sure you could google and get more than I can remember while knodding off..
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2025, 09:03:27 AM »
 The former Maytag and Butler Mfg. plants here were scrapped for the pre-war steel. One earlier wooden structure was left untouched and is in use and post-war steel buildings were left also.
 Maybe the SS United States sinking is a metaphor.
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2025, 09:17:56 AM »
Too late to save it now, it's on it's way to AL to be prepped to be sunk near Destin FL.  Not a total waste, I'm sure many scuba divers will be excited to dive down to it.

Track it here, it is currently near Ft Lauderdale

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Re: SS United States
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2025, 05:32:51 PM »
It would cost billions to refit it and get it operational.
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2025, 06:16:59 PM »
Too late to save it now, it's on it's way to AL to be prepped to be sunk near Destin FL.  Not a total waste, I'm sure many scuba divers will be excited to dive down to it.

Track it here, it is currently near Ft Lauderdale

https://share.garmin.com/SSUNITEDSTATES
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Re: SS United States
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2025, 11:05:52 PM »
It would cost billions to refit it and get it operational.

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