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Offline jensk

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What is this toolset part?
« on: June 09, 2007, 12:45:23 am »
Below is a photo of a toolset I bought for $7 at a "stumpemarked" (open marked for classic bike and car parts) in Gjern, Denmark last weekend.

What i don't know is what is the tool on the far left for?
Anybody got an idea?
I think it is the original toolset for a 70ties Sohc/4 Honda.
It will fit perfectly under my refernished seat when it is finished.

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2007, 12:55:56 am »
It looks to me like a spoke wrench...

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2007, 01:07:27 am »
It might look like a spokewrench but then it isn't for my CB550. The wrench opening is 8 mm and far to wide for my spokes.

Maybe it wasn't a part of the original toolset or maybe the toolset is not originally for a sohc/4 Honda?
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2007, 01:37:10 am »
I can't tell you what it is, but I can tell you that there isn't one in my 550's toolkit
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2007, 01:50:54 am »
I have no idea what it is , buti have seen them in toolkits before and yes its for a 70's 750 or 500. Got yourself a bargain there
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2007, 02:15:56 am »
Could it be a tappet adjuster....or maybe just proof that someone at the Honda factory had a great sense of humour ;D

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2007, 02:31:32 am »
Could it be a tappet adjuster....

If it's 8mm then I'd say you're probably right.  That's also the size of the brake bleeder valve. 

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2007, 04:24:18 am »
easily worth $40 on Ebay.... complete Honda toolkits do very well. Good bargain!!!
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2007, 08:17:59 am »
I use it for removing/replacing the main jets.
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2007, 08:26:44 am »
According to the Honda manual:



Looks like the shock adjustment wrench is all that's missing. That funky wrench on the left also serves at the handle for the sparkplug wrench.
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2007, 08:38:38 am »
That funky thing is the extension handle for the axle wrench. The spark plug wrench has a hole to use a screwdriver blade for torque. The other strange one near the middle attaches to the end of the screwdriver blades for torque if the normal handle is insufficient and you need more force to ruin a screw head.
Check that the axle wrench fits your axle nut: there are several different sizes for different modlel bikes and there's no guarantee this set is for yours.
The mystery wrench is... a mystery. It might fit the tappet nuts but I think they are 9mm. You still need something to turn and hold the tappet bolt though...

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2007, 03:53:45 pm »
i'll buy the whole kit with pouch off of you and that will solve your delema!

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2007, 06:28:11 pm »
That funky thing is the extension handle for the axle wrench. The spark plug wrench has a hole to use a screwdriver blade for torque. The other strange one near the middle attaches to the end of the screwdriver blades for torque if the normal handle is insufficient and you need more force to ruin a screw head.

The axle wrench handle is on the right, meant to slip over the axle wrench itself. I was referring to the wrench in question.
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2007, 07:02:15 pm »
I don't know about the tool in question, but I think the Honda tools remained the same for many years and most models. The original tools that came with my 1965 Honda look the same as the ones in the photo above (minus the odd small wrench). And the best part is they are still available from Honda for one or two dollars each. I've seen the whole kit, brand new, for 20 dollars including the pouch, but I think the part number for the pouch has changed.

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2007, 08:23:49 pm »
Looks like it fits the front axle. Have to check the bolt size though, I think they're 8mm.
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2007, 09:34:45 pm »
Only thing I have ever used it for is to loosen or tighten the spark plugs. I use it through tthe holes in the top of the spark plug wrench.

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2007, 09:41:40 pm »
I use it for removing/replacing the main jets.

Speaking of...mine runs great!  Thanks to you and those jets.  ;D
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2007, 09:42:27 pm »
i use that one to remove the clip from my joining link on my drive chain.... *shrug*

works   ;D

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2007, 10:17:45 pm »
That same tool is in my 350f kit and I have never figured it out.
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2007, 11:12:44 pm »
would it fit the top adjusting nut on the carbs to sync the slides ??

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2007, 03:19:57 am »
na they are 14mm aren't they? ???

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2007, 05:57:03 am »
i use that one to remove the clip from my joining link on my drive chain...

That's what I was thinking it was for...the Hondas with endless chains wouldn't have it in the tool kit...just the master-linked chain bikes...   ;D

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2007, 10:34:54 am »
It's a tuning fork to make sure that the engine is running exactly at the right key ;D ;D
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2007, 12:14:12 pm »
It's a tuning fork to make sure that the engine is running exactly at the right key ;D ;D

Or the spokes are tightened properly...
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2007, 03:08:59 pm »
It's a tuning fork to make sure that the engine is running exactly at the right key ;D ;D

Or the spokes are tightened properly...

Might be a multipurpose tool, also used to knock on gas tank to check fuel level.
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2007, 03:22:26 pm »
Thanks for starting this thread. My bike came with the toolkit still under the seat (owner's manual, too) and I always wondered what the first and last tiems in th pic were for. Handle for the axle wrench. Good to know.
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2007, 04:36:37 pm »
BAHAhahahahaha tuning fork for the engine...!!!  man you guys kill me sometimes!!!! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2007, 05:54:14 pm »
I have the same tool for my honda atv have no idea what it does besides in conjuntion with the spark plug tool.

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2007, 07:14:06 pm »
Its a Lobster fork, just in case your out riding and happen across a lobster that needs eating. (The pliers might come in usefull to)
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2007, 05:19:08 am »
Or the spokes are tightened properly...

Jonesy - In reply #2, jensk replied that it is 8mm...The Honda spoke nipples are 5.7mm...which seems to be a "#3 Nipple Wrench" size...    Edit: Oh, I see!! You're using it as a tuning mallet!!! Yes; good idea!!   ;D

But if anyone knows a source for the 5.7mm Honda spoke nipple wrenches (the ones that look like that tool, or like a tuning fork) please post it...I've done 7 wheels this last year, with another coming this week...and I've been using that stubby little dual-ended universal fit wrench made by "Rowe Products" which always seems to gouge the rim when in use...   >:(

(Heh...I was at the Honda dealer, and the guy behind the counter had no idea what I was talking about...I finally had to go behind him, check the wall, and found a dusty, curled-up old cardboard shrink wrapped spoke wrench that was exactly what I wanted...but the wrong size...)   :'(
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2019, 03:41:41 am »
Hmm... at first I thought this 'BAR B' was just a typo: a clerk at the Honda office had misread an 8 handed to him in handwriting by someone from the workfloor and took it for a B. After all, it's an 8mm wrench, isn't it? But by and by I changed my mind and by now I kind of lean towards Gordon's interpretation, that it is ment for the brake bleeder and then the 'B' makes sense ofcourse: 'B' for brake or bleeder. Only... too bad the bleeder on my model has a 7mm head. Hmm, interesting... To be continued.
Now we are on it, does the '#2' and '#3' in screwdriver denominations refer to an actual size or is it just a ranking order? 
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2019, 03:45:29 am »
Hmm, interesting... To be continued.

Do we have to wait another 12 years?

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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2019, 06:54:55 pm »
I don't think the "Bar B" mystery will ever be solved - I started a similar thread years ago and learned that it can be used as an open ended 8mm spanner - I wouldn't try to loosen the brake bleeder with it though!
I have drilled out the holes in all three of my spark plug tools so that my three bar B handles fit through them and can be used as handles...
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Re: What is this toolset part?
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2019, 04:29:47 am »
a good mystery. My " go to" honda expert who's been assembling and dealing with honda's ( and indians) since the 60's doesn't really  know either. It doesn't fit the bleeder valve, and not sure about the tappet adjuster. He used it for the spark plug tool.

 

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