Topic: Could you help me to identify these switches?

[Raul CB750K1]

The spanish-made Sanglas 400Y, last of the breed after the make was bought by an investment group -to be sold later to Yamaha-, incorporated a fine XS400 engine. In order to renew the breed to cope with the competition, the last models incorporated Brembo brakes, and Denso switches.


I would like to buy some second-hand switches, but they are very scarce if you look for Sanglas switches. But I'm positive they were used in many other bikes in the late 70's-early 80's. The XS400 had different switches. So I'm just hoping you could help me out by telling me in which other bikes have you seen them so I can search eBay for them....





Thanks in advance.

[DarkRider]

Have you looked into the parts on MikesXS?

[Raul CB750K1]

Have you looked into the parts on MikesXS?

Wow, you have put me to the test on this one!! I didn't know what you talked about, so I first looked in the "parts for sale" for a user called MikesXS, then eBay for the same user, and finally googled for "MikesXS" and found MikesXS.com.... 

No, there is nothing like this switch there. Actually, I have some XS400 searches on eBay and every handlebar switch of the Yamaha bike is different from this on my Sanglas bike. What is more, the engine type in the Sanglas bikes was "2W2", that seems a unique designation for this engine, even when it's a carbon copy of the "2J0" and others that now my memory can't recall. Instruments were not Denso but Veglia, cast wheels were spanish Akront etc.

As you can see in the picture, the switch is "sandwiched" in the lever and master cylinder assembly. If you remove the fixing bolts the switch retracts and the wires and solders are exposed. If I'm not wrong the master cylinder is Magura, but I recall the switches are Denso -from what I've read in Sanglas forums-, but I don't have the proof nor have I seen any brand name stamped or etched in them.


My only hope is that some of you can remember this type of switch in any of the bikes you have had along your biking career.

[mcpuffett]

Hi Raul , is Veglia not Italian? might be a lead , Guzzi, Morini, Ducati, laverda, but to name a few, cheers mick.

[Raul CB750K1]

Hi Raul , is Veglia not Italian? might be a lead , Guzzi, Morini, Ducati, laverda, but to name a few, cheers mick.

That's a good idea, but Veglia are only the speedo and tacho, not the switches. Seems that I had to follow the "german" connection. Magura seems to have been extensively used in the period german bikes, as Kreidler, Zündapp etc. Have a look at this master cylinder. The switches seem to be elusive until now.....


http://cgi.ebay.es/Magura-Bremsamatur-Bremsfluessigkeitsbehaelter-Hercules_W0QQitemZ320102179816QQihZ011QQcategoryZ44358QQcmdZViewItem

[Raul CB750K1]

Wait!!! We are getting near!!! I found a blinker switch without the horn or the low/hig beam....

[mcpuffett]

Hi Raul , looks like your getting closer, cheers mick.

[Terry in Australia]

The spanish-made Sanglas 400Y, last of the breed after the make was bought by an investment group -to be sold later to Yamaha-, incorporated a fine XS400 engine.

G'Day Raul, just a correction mate, there's no such thing as a fine XS400 engine, they were a bigger "boat anchor" than Honda's CB350 twin, ha ha!

[Raul CB750K1]

The spanish-made Sanglas 400Y, last of the breed after the make was bought by an investment group -to be sold later to Yamaha-, incorporated a fine XS400 engine.

G'Day Raul, just a correction mate, there's no such thing as a fine XS400 engine, they were a bigger "boat anchor" than Honda's CB350 twin, ha ha!

LOL, truth be told, my Sanglas bike is a great little bike, be it a boat anchor or an anvil. Stiff frame, twin disc front and single disc rear, it's fantastic for curvy roads.

[Terry in Australia]

G'Day Raul, have you got any pics of the Sanglas with the Yam engine? I've never sen one, but it sounds a lot nicer than the XS400? Cheers, Terry.

[DarkRider]

I believe Raul has two of these beasts...one slightly rough and one clean bike..

[Raul CB750K1]

I believe Raul has two of these beasts...one slightly rough and one clean bike..

True, but one of them is a thumper with a 100% spanish made engine, now in restoration.




The other one is the Yamaha-engined, a little tatty but unrestored. It is missing a front cowling -hard to get by, but I got one waiting to be painted- and a left sidecover. This is a great bike; spanish government forced the first versions to use Amal carbs -in order to minimize the foreign components- but the bikes were very difficult to set up. When the investment group bought the company, they managed to start using the XS 400 Mikuni carbs. Mine is one of the last, and they also brought CDI instead of points. Sanglas replaced the alternator cover with another, and the fabricated an aluminium plate to glue on top of the "YAMAHA" engraving in the clutch cover.

[DarkRider]

Both of them are good looking bikes raul...the black one reminds me a lot of an old Jawa TS350. And personally the red one looks better without the fairing..

[Raul CB750K1]

Both of them are good looking bikes raul...the black one reminds me a lot of an old Jawa TS350. And personally the red one looks better without the fairing..

The Sanglas engine was more than "inspired" in some other period engines, namely british -a friend in the Sanglas club posted some pictures and the similarities were huge-. Many people removed the fairings and now they are harder to find than hen's teeth. I like it without it, but I like it more with it. There were three or four aftermarket bodyworks, so if you get a donor bike -they are not expensive yet- you can change your bike's appearance in 30 minutes.

[upperlake04]

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[Raul CB750K1]

Esta discusión ha sido la mas  interesante.

LOL.... you have a good translator!!!!!