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The best thing to do with a Harley
« on: February 18, 2008, 11:16:42 PM »


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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 11:36:22 PM »
Got to agree with you, that is a nice looking harley. Not crazy about the shape of the tank, but still good looking.  :o  8) 

Can't believe I said that about a harley.
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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2008, 03:23:36 AM »
I was expecting to see something scrapped or burning, but that is a nice looking bike...haha...

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2008, 11:07:14 AM »
nice looking sportster cafe. harley also did their own "cafe racer" in 77 and 78 called the xlcr. rare bike though.

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2008, 01:06:30 PM »
nice looking sportster cafe. harley also did their own "cafe racer" in 77 and 78 called the xlcr. rare bike though.

My brother-in-law had one harley cafe racer, didn't handle very good and never could keep up with my cb550 four. Didn't matter who rode what the Honda always won, drag race,top end or in the twisties. :( Didn't look to bad, but that's as far as I'll go with that.
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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 02:57:37 PM »
yeah, our sohc hondas are like a ferrari enzo compared to the sportster ford model a. they are what they are. load of fun to ride still

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 03:27:55 PM »
Cafe HD's just dont look right to me.  Now show me a pic of an xr750 tracker &  I'll drool for hours.   :)
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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2008, 07:34:32 PM »
I couldn't even tell that was a Harley at first, which must be a good thing! 
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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2008, 07:52:35 PM »
Not bad looking.   Harleys are enjoyable to ride, but its not the same kind of joy that we get from riding our Fours.   

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 08:04:45 PM »


The XLCR isnt a bad looking bike...its lines could be a lil smoother but overall not bad...
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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 12:11:18 AM »
What about the new Harley XR1200 they have launched? -at least in Europe-




I don't get it. If you want performance, would you buy a sport HD when you can have pure japanese -or italian- performance at a fraction of the price? Do they think their customer base will die to have one XR1200? Most surprisingly, they have made it available in countries like Spain, where 99.9% have never heard about an american dirttrack, let alone a XR750, so they don't have the nostalgie factor. I foresee a sales flop.

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2008, 12:26:42 AM »
if i were ever to own another harley i'd find me an xlcr, i love the ironhead sportster.

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2008, 02:38:34 AM »
Raoul, you seem to forget that there is a HUGE bunch of snobs, who wants a bike that has H-D on it. This one doesn't look bad, albeit it's still too heavy and crude to me - just look at the instruments housing, or better, the lack of it. In Germany, the young generation falls on it's knees before anything with USA on it (well, except for the BMW bikes  ;D top seller brand last year overall in germany for 2 wheelers), and H-D is an epitome of it. Heavy, difficult handling, fuel economy so-so....

So, many people don't want japanese, and that's the only reason why brands like Moto Guzzi exists. And what happened to Sanglas for example?

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2008, 05:20:17 AM »
If I wanted a Harley I'd buy a Buell.  ;D  Actually, I wanted a Buell when I bought my Ducati, but none of the local Harley dealers will carry them. There excuse is, "There's really not that much of a market here for them," which is the biggest bunch of bull $h!t that I have ever heard. If they didn't have to carry the V-Rod series they wouldn't. They've got their nose shoved so far up their own a$$es that they can't see anything outside of a 1962 Pushrod cruiser. "That's what Harley makes, and that what we're gonna sell!! If you want something different, go somewhere else!!" (Pronounced: "We sell sell 40 year old technology (The government made us go with fuel injection). If you want something more advanced, go to *Insert any other marquee name that you can thing of here* and spend half the money.")

With that being said, I have always liked the Buells. I drooled over the XB9 and XB12, and am simply drowning in my own saliva when I look at the new 1125R. But try to get any "Die-Hard Harley Guy" to give them (or a V-Rod) a second look... well, lets just say that you'd have a better chance of getting a Liberal and a Conservative to agree on politics.
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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2008, 05:43:07 AM »
If I wanted a Harley I'd buy a Buell.  ;D  Actually, I wanted a Buell when I bought my Ducati, but none of the local Harley dealers will carry them. There excuse is, "There's really not that much of a market here for them," which is the biggest bunch of bull $h!t that I have ever heard. If they didn't have to carry the V-Rod series they wouldn't. They've got their nose shoved so far up their own a$$es that they can't see anything outside of a 1962 Pushrod cruiser. "That's what Harley makes, and that what we're gonna sell!! If you want something different, go somewhere else!!" (Pronounced: "We sell sell 40 year old technology (The government made us go with fuel injection). If you want something more advanced, go to *Insert any other marquee name that you can thing of here* and spend half the money.")

With that being said, I have always liked the Buells. I drooled over the XB9 and XB12, and am simply drowning in my own saliva when I look at the new 1125R. But try to get any "Die-Hard Harley Guy" to give them (or a V-Rod) a second look... well, lets just say that you'd have a better chance of getting a Liberal and a Conservative to agree on politics.

Believe me, if Buells commanded a high demand, that dealer would swallow his principles and sell Buells. When you have limited showroom space, you rather have models that you know that sell well instead of models that doesn't have such a following and you end up with your money put on a bike that doesn't sell for months, maybe years. Go there with the money down and you will see them place the order for you.

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2008, 05:47:17 AM »
harley snobs dont buy sportsters,keep in mind they are a "girls bike".ever seen a "girls bike" blow the doors off a big twin,its right fun to do.
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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2008, 05:58:33 AM »
.... and am simply drowning in my own saliva when I look at the new 1125R.
The irony of it is, that on that bike Erik Buell finally decided to mount and advanced engine, instead of a h-d lump. It's a custom-for-this-bike made Rotax....  ;D
So, even Buell is moving away from h-d.
H-D will always be a bike for specific clientele. Which is moving more and more towards posers nowadays anyway......
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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2008, 01:02:46 PM »
Funny timing...found this on Craigslist Toronto today...

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One of the most collectible Harley ever made ...........Original correct and ready to go ....Only 25,000 miles $11K ...PART TRADE FOR M/C ? 

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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2008, 07:18:09 PM »
Funny timing...found this on Craigslist Toronto today...

http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/mcy/579988443.html
77 HARLEY XLCR

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One of the most collectible Harley ever made ...........Original correct and ready to go ....Only 25,000 miles $11K ...PART TRADE FOR M/C ? 



i wish i had what he's been smoking.........too many miles for an ironhead. i'd give him 6 mayyyyyyyyyybe 7 grand for it.

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Re: The best thing to do with a Harley
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2008, 08:22:56 PM »
I like Harleys, but I don't like Buells. Having owned an iron head sporty, I'd have another one in a flash, in fact I'm readying my garage for one now, but this time I'll probably go for a 1200 "Evo" sporty, they really are a good bike.

I remember riding one (a 1200 sporty) when they first came out, I had a "traffic light drag" with a guy on the newly released Triumph 1200 Daytona, and the sporty had so much torque I blew him away for the first 100 yards, which was more than enough to have him scratching his head.

My old BMW R100RS was the same, no Jap four could beat it off the lights, except maybe a Hayabusa, but I never got the opportunity to find out, as I sold it before they were everywhere.

As opposed to all the bullshiit written by guys who have never owned, much less ridden a sporty, they handle well, and are as reliable as a modern bike. Sure, they won't beat a modern jap bike of the same capacity (or even half of that, i.e., the CBR600) but they were never meant to either, you see, a sporty is an iconic motorcycle that can trace it's roots back to the 1950's, and is a great alternative to what's around nowadays. Not everyone wants to own a modern sportsbike (I certainly don't) and that's why Triumph is doing so well with the retro "Bonneville" and "Tiger" twins.

The fact is, that for a lot of people like me, we have no interest in modern bikes at all. Sure, I own a modern BMW tourer, but I bought it in a moment of weakness, and as bland as it is, it's a competent long distance machine. It doesn't inspire me, but it works well. I'd be happy if Honda had kept the sohc 750, but they've gone on to make newer and technically better bikes, but they hold no interest for me.

I think a 1200 sporty dressed up in dirt track livery like the one in the pic above, with the reversed cylinder, twin carbs, cam, twin plugged heads and portwork by Mike R, a special Hondaman ignition, supertrapp pipe with upgraded suspension and brakes will be a wonderous thing, for sure! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2008, 08:47:55 PM »
First off dont buy a bike to gain acceptance by all riders of that marque..

 The XLCR came out in 77.. so honestly folks which look more cafe'd to you The XLCR or the 77F ??.. I know which I would pick...


 Terry I know what you mean ,but I would take an 883 out to 1200 rather than buy a 1200 for several reasons.

 And if you only had 1000.00 to put into  mods the 883 would get better results than a 750 K..  oh well..
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2008, 05:08:45 AM »
I've ridden several Harleys: Sporty's, Tour Glides, others... I just don't find them as refined as I think they could be. I was honestly surprised at how well the 883 handled chopped up dirt roads, and how well the Touring Machine (excuse me, "Full Dresser") handled in general. But sitting on and riding the 2006 883 sportster reminded me of sitting on my 1983 nighthawk 750, except that it felt a bit more cramped and the key was funkier. Don't get me wrong, I like that fact that someone still makes a true "Standard" motorcycle, I just feel that the machine is outdated. My neighbor, last year, bought a late eighties 883 from a friend. With the exception of it being dirty and having two different paint schemes going on (he did fix that), the bike was practically indistinguishable from a new on on the show room floor.

When you have limited showroom space, you rather have models that you know that sell well instead of models that doesn't have such a following and you end up with your money put on a bike that doesn't sell for months, maybe years. Go there with the money down and you will see them place the order for you.

Actually, they just built a dealership (which is beautiful) so they have plenty of room, and I have actually asked about having one ordered and was told, "No. We send people looking for Buells down to Manchester (another dealership located a two and a half hour drive away)."
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2008, 05:37:06 AM »
Sorry. I don't mean to rant on Harley. It's just that I've had so many negative experiences with their owners and dealers that it makes me kind of biases against them.

Would I keep it if one were given to me? Yes I would. And I'd keep the stock pipes on it, too.  ;D
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2008, 05:58:18 AM »
i agree with 754,buy an 883 for around 7 grand,spend a grand on punching it out to 1200 and have fun.if you want to play,the 883 is geared lower than a 1200 so you already have that going for you and the 1200 has a butt load of torque that you can use at stoplights to have other bike owners scratching their heads wondering how they got beat by a sportster.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2008, 07:25:15 AM »
Here is what we did, you can do a lot of it yourself.

Early on the 1200 kit used std 80ci pistons & a head template, you had to mod the head, easy.

So we punched it out 1/2 inch!! then we cut the main baffle out with a holesaw. Took the airfilter out of the stock housing.

So bore kit, stock pipes opened up,stock carb & filterhousing, stock ignition.. ran 12.7 first day out. We stretched the swingarm a few inches, not not sure if that was done to it that  first day at the drags.

Pretty good bang for the buck, he stopped running his SOHC at the drags after that. Eventually he did a lot more to that Sporty, it was a crowd pleaser at the drags.. often staying on the back wheel for at least 3 gears..
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