Topic: "I have not had it appraised, but 40-50K is logical"

[jreich]

My, my:
http://iowacity.craigslist.org/mcy/608769916.html

[goon 1492]

very interesting.... Did you know that its the first one with a four cyclinder and front disk brake! and a custom back rest. lol..... IWOA= Idiots Out Wandering Around. that what we missourians call it. no just kidding its beautiful country up there good riding ground. I hope he gets every dime he asks for on that scooter.

[chopstar500]

Surprised it's not on ebay. Actually, he'd probably get more for the Von Dutch tins by themselves  - kinda irrelevant what bike they're on.

[Aaron J Williams]

More power to him but for $15k I would like to see a perfect set of HM300s on it.

Actually, he'd probably get more for the Von Dutch tins by themselves  - kinda irrelevant what bike they're on.

I totally agree, sell the tins and restore the bike to original.

[754]

I hope you guys are only kidding, especially about the 300,s helping the value






I know a guy that just ran his bike thru a major auction recently, it was painted by Von Dutch  who hand painted the decals on it. He wondered sometimes wether he should have repainted it..


 It ran thru the auction for  about 20 K more than it should have brought. I wouldnt retouch or repaint anything painted by him, Nor would I be surprise if someone buys this one and turns a good profit..

[gregimotis]

"1971 CB750 30000mi.  Needs brakes, tires, handlebars. Hasn't run for six months.  Cracking paint job, but otherwise in good shape.  1500.00 OBO."

[NPHLYT]

Thats exactly what I would do.  Unload those ugly ass tins on eBay, use part of the money to buy stock ones, keep the change, and the bike.

He should, and throw in the ape hangers as a bonus.

[754]

You guys sound like you would take a Hailwood Six  (if it was non factory paint) and repaint or part it out cuz it is no longer the way it left the factory..

[Hope]

Is it just me or is that bike ugly?

[gregimotis]

You guys sound like you would take a Hailwood Six  (if it was non factory paint) and repaint or part it out cuz it is no longer the way it left the factory..

It's not the paint, it's:

"Could need new battery, new tires (good thread but cracks on the side walls) and should be getting close to new front brake pads."

And:

"this bike is the first bike in production to have a front disc brake, a 4-cylinder engine and a dual cable throttle."

Followed by:

"40-50K is logical knowing his work. I will take 15k or best offer now in cash as I need the money. Don't expect any super deals though"


Also those handlebars are teh stupid - but that's just me.

[eldar]

I have to agree with you greg. This guy is pretty sure of himself especially given the ugly color of paint!

[754]

Take a look at the cool 750,s thread page 2,

Another Honda with higher bars and 4-2,s.. must have been real popular back then...

It was as I recall... especially after that movie came out...

[goon 1492]

I hope you guys are only kidding, especially about the 300,s helping the value






I know a guy that just ran his bike thru a major auction recently, it was painted by Von Dutch  who hand painted the decals on it. He wondered sometimes wether he should have repainted it..


 It ran thru the auction for  about 20 K more than it should have brought. I wouldnt retouch or repaint anything painted by him, Nor would I be surprise if someone buys this one and turns a good profit..

von dutch is cool old school, and i think there are too many younger cats on here to know any better. Hell i'm only 30 but i did grow up in a body shop, that's how i know better. peace

[merc2dogs]

 To the right buer it could be pure gold. To me though it's a rather ugly bike and needs a new paint job.
 Bright side, he does have the manual!

ken.

[eldar]

I see nothing special about the pipes so what would be wrong with putting 300s back on if value is your only concern?

[jreich]

I hope you guys are only kidding, especially about the 300,s helping the value






I know a guy that just ran his bike thru a major auction recently, it was painted by Von Dutch  who hand painted the decals on it. He wondered sometimes wether he should have repainted it..


 It ran thru the auction for  about 20 K more than it should have brought. I wouldnt retouch or repaint anything painted by him, Nor would I be surprise if someone buys this one and turns a good profit..

I originally posted this with a bit of sarcasm intended, and was oblivious to the fact that old VonDutch painting/striping brought up the value to that degree.....
Granted, what a great piece of Von Dutch history, but I was a bit surprised that with a bike that "is not show quality", he would be asking this much.

[754]

Unrestored does not mean low value. Look at a sandcast, or the unrestored 36 EL that just brought 60 K.

The value is often  simply because it is one of very few original unmolested examples in existance.

The Scott motorcyle that the guy sold was probably worth 20- 30 K  as an original resto, but with the Von Dutch  work on it brought aroud 45 or 50 K.

[jreich]

Unrestored does not mean low value. Look at a sandcast, or the unrestored 36 EL that just brought 60 K.

The value is often  simply because it is one of very few original unmolested examples in existance.

The Scott motorcyle that the guy sold was probably worth 20- 30 K  as an original resto, but with the Von Dutch  work on it brought aroud 45 or 50 K.

Very good point; and well taken.

For any appreciators of motorcycle/hot-rod/car/truck history, regardless of how much this guy is asking, it is nice to see 'unmolested' moto-art when it comes out of the woodwork; either for sale or in a show.

[eldar]

I think it is the whole attitude the guy has about it. If not for that, might be easier to swallow.

[ekim98]

It's really a shame that you can't say what you think, without getting run thru the ringer because you don't agree with something, someone thinks is art. To me it's a joke to think someone would pay that kind of money for that, just because of a paint job. And not even a good design IMO.

[heffay]

von dutch had crappy taste.      or he was too greedy to tell his customers they did.

i had a refrigerator once that looked very similar to that.  it has long since been replaced.

[chrislib]

meh, von dutch, von smuch. Just because it was striped by that guy makes it worth mid 5 figures?...uggghhhh. To each his own I suppose.

[bistromath]

eye of the beholder, and all that. once painted by an artist, it's art -- you just can't apply the usual CB750 valuation to it. it's not worth $50K to you, and it's not worth $50K to me, but Jeff Koons has his goons build chromed inflatable sculptures and his #$%* sells for $50M. so somebody out there will decide they really really want original Von Dutch work, and this will be worth it to them.

[heffay]

i have a von dutch trucker hat that i'd like to sell.
first 5,000usd takes it.

[Raul CB750K1]

If I have 50K and I want to buy art, I would buy a regular CB750 and buy a Picasso sketch with the remaining dough.

[pollpegj]

I live in Iowa City and saw this about 2 weeks ago on craigslist, ever since then Ive been wanting to see the bike. I respect von dutch work, but I dont respect it 50,000 dollars much.

[754]

It is not striped by Von Dutch, it is a full paint job, of which there are very few of.

If you simply want a 71 Honda 750, there are many others..

if you have a Von Dutch trucker hat, it is probably made after he died..... and you probably know what they say about "made" collectibles..

[heffay]

It is not striped by Von Dutch, it is a full paint job, of which there are very few of.

If you simply want a 71 Honda 750, there are many others..

if you have a Von Dutch trucker hat, it is probably made after he died..... and you probably know what they say about "made" collectibles..

i think there is a von dutch clothing store... trendy stuff
maybe, i'm out of the loop on what the last store in the mall is/was.

[754]

Yeah its sort of like OCC stuff, not anything Von Dutch would ever sell..

[heffay]

it was a present from my friend's little sister.   

anyway... it makes me look about as goofy as that bike.

[NPHLYT]

Someone has already said it, pull the painted bits and sell them to the collector and then put a new set on the bike and sell that. I know, it is not the same, but if you were a collector you would not ride that bike anyway as you may be forced to test your helmet (or DOT approved bandana in Texas) and then how much would that stuff be worth?
As far as the pipes go, I have the same one on my '70 CB750 and I will either leave them the way they are (they do sound nice) or chop them off at the pegs (rearsets).

I may make him an offer on those bars and install them upside down, Clubmans, eat your heart out.

[BlindJoe]

I think VonDutch's sister sold the trademark of his name and logo to some Chinese clothing company or something after he died in '92.

[merc2dogs]

 Think those are the same pipes I have on the shelf. They were on a bike I picked up for parts then decided I had enough parts and could use another rider, they do sound halfway decent.

Ken.

[phactory]

A small bore (100cc) bike that was painted by Von Dutch and owned by Steve McQueen just sold for around $50K. I am sure that it went for that much because of the Von Dutch and McQueen legacy.

I can't remember which moto rag I saw this in, but if i find it I will repost it.

Phil