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you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« on: November 05, 2008, 03:32:33 AM »
hi,
   i am going to be riding in the junior class of a sprinting club, my borrowed Honda benly 125 has quite a short wheelbase and the previous riders were heavier than me, so id like to know which you would rather do and why??
Benny
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 11:55:18 AM »
neither, they both cost you time off the line. learn to ride the clutch out off the line and once under way let the rest of the clutch go. it will take a couple of runs to find the ideal amount of clutch to use but is effective.
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 01:01:41 PM »
Quote from: scunny on November 05, 2008, 11:55:18 AM
neither, they both cost you time off the line. learn to ride the clutch out off the line and once under way let the rest of the clutch go. it will take a couple of runs to find the ideal amount of clutch to use but is effective.

He has to learn how to ride a bike before he gets let loose on the Benly Scunny ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thought your dad would have sorted you out with something Benny while I'm sunning it up :D :D :D :D
See ya next week Benny ;)

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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 01:12:03 PM »
PLease! Learn the clutch? Pffft! You want a smokin burnout man! :D
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 01:26:57 PM »
I highly doubt the benly 125 is capable of either without doing one of the 2:

1: really trying to pop a wheely, by pulling up as hard as possible while sitting as far back as possible, and dropping the clutch from WOT.

2: having someone lift the back so that the back tire is barely touching the ground so you can get some wheelspin..

You are looking at maybe 12 or 13hp.

I wouldnt worry about either issues at this point.

Things will change as you move up in bikes, of course.

Or did I just not catch some sarcasm?

In any case, have fun.
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 01:42:00 PM »
Hi Mark, pleased to see you posting again. Ben is only 12 and a little bit on the eager side ;D ;D ;D
The Benly he'll be riding is capable of doing both without any heavy clutch dumping or yanking up on the bars.
I've been racing it for years and that's not samcasm  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 01:44:05 PM »
Quote from: Samcr750 on November 05, 2008, 01:42:00 PM
Hi Mark, pleased to see you posting again. Ben is only 12 and a little bit on the eager side ;D ;D ;D
The Benly he'll be riding is capable of doing both without any heavy clutch dumping or yanking up on the bars.
I've been racing it for years and that's not samcasm  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sam. ;)

Cool.

Modified, obviously. What's it got?
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 01:49:54 PM »
Quote from: Samcr750 on November 05, 2008, 01:01:41 PM
Quote from: scunny on November 05, 2008, 11:55:18 AM
neither, they both cost you time off the line. learn to ride the clutch out off the line and once under way let the rest of the clutch go. it will take a couple of runs to find the ideal amount of clutch to use but is effective.

He has to learn how to ride a bike before he gets let loose on the Benly Scunny ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thought your dad would have sorted you out with something Benny while I'm sunning it up :D :D :D :D
See ya next week Benny ;)

Sam. ;)
its only next week until you come back ace ;D ;D
benny
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 01:52:06 PM »
Quote from: mlinder on November 05, 2008, 01:26:57 PM
I highly doubt the benly 125 is capable of either without doing one of the 2:

1: really trying to pop a wheely, by pulling up as hard as possible while sitting as far back as possible, and dropping the clutch from WOT.

2: having someone lift the back so that the back tire is barely touching the ground so you can get some wheelspin..

You are looking at maybe 12 or 13hp.

I wouldnt worry about either issues at this point.

Things will change as you move up in bikes, of course.

Or did I just not catch some sarcasm?

In any case, have fun.
no sarcasm!! ayy my benly will have up to 16hp but thanks
benny
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 01:53:52 PM »
Its to CB95 race spec and a full 175 at the moment Mark, It'll be to CB92 spec when Ben gets to ride it but It's only just over half the weight of a stock CB92.

Sam. ;)
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 01:55:47 PM »
Mark, Billy440cars has lots of pics of the bikes if you can get him to post them.

Sam. ;)
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 01:59:00 PM »
Less than 200lbs? Wow, that's light.

In Portland theres the 160 class. Awesome stuff.

http://www.groupwracing.com/
http://viciouscycle.com/CB160.html

Was going to build a 160 for Ryan (R550) to race next season, but had my accident.

Some of these suckers hit 90mph+
Second favorite class to V5 out here.

Have good fun, benly, and be safe.

Nice work on the bike, Sam. Got some pics?/edit: ok, Ill ask bill. Thanks!

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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 02:16:56 PM »
The race Benly is 185 lbs and you can believe it or not, the sprinter is only 139lb.

Are you still at the address I have for you, if not PM me your address and I'll post some pics to you.

Sam. ;)

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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 02:23:10 PM »
Quote from: Samcr750 on November 05, 2008, 02:16:56 PM
The race Benly is 185 lbs and you can believe it or not, the sprinter is only 139lb.

Are you still at the address I have for you, if not PM me your address and I'll post some pics to you.

Sam. ;)



Yes, same email as before :)

Hell, my race 350 is going to be a hundred pounds heavier. 'Course, will be making a fair bit more power, but sub 200lbs would be awesome.

Looking forward to the pics!
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 02:57:33 PM »
Awesome but maybe flexxy! Imagine having no suspension cause the frame does it all! ;D  I bet that would be a fun ride! Now imagine if you crammed a 2-stroke in there! :o
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2008, 03:04:40 PM »
Quote from: eldar, Master of the K8 Thunder! on November 05, 2008, 01:12:03 PM
PLease! Learn the clutch? Pffft! You want a smokin burnout man! :D

I agree. Don't want to do a wheelie in a grid of racers. But I came from dragracing and when i roadraced I always dumped the clutch for wheelspin. If its a dragrace start, you dump the clutch, modulate the throttle to control wheelspin. From rows back i was always first to the first turn, passing those that were slipping the clutch. (Never seen a Christmas Tree) It was after the first turn that i had problems.  ;)
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2008, 07:48:38 PM »
The funny thing is eldy, The RS making 40 odd bhp only weighs the same as the four stroke Benly that makes about 15 at the rear wheel. :D :D :D

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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2008, 05:48:28 AM »
We will be looking at 50rwhp from the 350, but it will weigh more than 270lbs :(
Course, we arent drag racing, this is for PIR (2 mile track)
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Re: you had to choose between wheelspinning and wheelying which one??
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2008, 06:19:00 AM »
I have no comment,  but just felt like saying  GO MAN U!!

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