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Urban four-wheel drives....
« on: October 03, 2005, 01:32:50 PM »
This is probably not something that annoys North Americans and Australians as much as it annoys a lot of Brits but let's start a rant about urban four-by-fours that never catch a glimpse of anything other than the school run... Starting with this ridiculous product...

http://www.sprayonmud.com/ :o

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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2005, 02:04:52 PM »
Yeah thats exceptionally gay and weak.  And believe me SUVs, as we call them in the states, piss me off substancially.  And I guess I have no problem with the vehicles themselves, other than that they needlessly eat up gas without serving the purpose they were built for, but the people who buy them kinda vex me.  I can understand if you live in northern Michigan and have to drive through lots of snow or if you live in the boonies and travel lots of dirt roads but for christs sake, this trend needs to come to an end.  Ive disliked SUVs since they came out and every car company under the freakin sun had to jump on the band wagon (including Chevrolet who stopped the production of one of their greatest cars of all time, the B-body RWD Impala SS and Caprice 9C1 so they could make stupid SUVs).  See thats just it.  The yuppies who buy these monstrosities do so just to be like everyone else and so they can say,  look at me I drive a huge 4 wheel drive machine, its bigger than your little car, so Im better!  Theyve basically replaced the minivan...I guess so that family guys can still feel cool or whatever when driving their families around and so that soccer moms can use 10 gallons of gas to grab groceries and smash into #$%* they cant see cuz their vehicle is stupid huge.  That fake mud is so incredibly pathetic...especially because people will actually buy it and use it!  You wanna see real mud?  I have a 78 Ford f150 custom 4x4/ 351 mod. that I got for free from my step-brother.  Beat to hell but its a definite runner!   It is forever caked in huge globs of REAL, sticky, beautiful, Central Illinois mud!  Hows that for a rant?  ;) :)

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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2005, 02:15:38 PM »
 ;D
Pretty good start metalhead anyone else do better??

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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2005, 02:55:04 PM »
woops, ::) guess who's wife just bought herself a landrover freelander  ;) yep mine got to admit it's a bit nicer than my trusty old transit van  8)  mick.( and we won't be using it off road or going near daves house either lol :D  mick.
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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2005, 03:23:42 PM »
I hate SUV's too for the above reasons.  However, if this guy is selling fake mud to get back at the stupid idiots who buy SUVs by stealing their money - I'm all for it!  I don't know if that's the case, but I sure hope it is.

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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2005, 05:38:57 PM »
 :P If you read around their sites a bit, it sounds like the whole point is to (wink wink) avoid being photographed by police/traffic cameras. Not that they "condone" obscuring your plates (wink wink). At 12.95 USD a 750cc bottle, I prefer a bad Australian wine like a Rosemount Shiraz.

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2005, 06:10:31 PM »
:P If you read around their sites a bit, it sounds like the whole point is to (wink wink) avoid being photographed by police/traffic cameras. Not that they "condone" obscuring your plates (wink wink). At 12.95 USD a 750cc bottle, I prefer a bad Australian wine like a Rosemount Shiraz.

   Ah yes...fake spray mud on the plates. So much easier and so much cleaner than actually throwing some mud on your plates. Wouldn't want to get those pastey soft hands all dirty now would we? Nor would we actually want to pay tolls we could easily afford...would we? Pay fines for driving like a jackass...not bloody likely. Any fool that buys the stuff deserves to pay for it...and the ensuing fine for obscuring their plate.

   That being said, there are many people who use SUVs for their intended purpose. I drove a Suburban for years because of my work. It gave me a truck and a passenger vehicle all in one. Before that I used to keep both a pick-up and a car on the road. The Suburban was a decent compromise to having to insure and maintain two vehicles. After the Suburban passed on, with 230,000 miles on it mind you, I downsized to an Explorer. That was a mistake for a number of reasons, mostly the fact that it was too small. Now I'm in a T100...a very nice ride but not nearly as useful as the Suburban, but much better mpg, and 4wd for the sometimes nasty New England weather.

   That's my rant...not quite sure what I was ranting about though. ;D

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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2005, 06:57:31 PM »
I've had the same problem for a long time, now, and it's not relegated specifically to the U.K.  It seem like as soon as a couple has a kid, the think they "NEED" an SUV (for the space).  The fact is that they wanted one all along, and are using their children as an excuse to buy one!  My parents raised three kids with a Dodge Torino and a Yamaha 500 as their only transportation, and we came out just fine. 

I have some friends here in Denver who think they "NEED" an all-wheel-drive vehicle to get to work all year around.  Yet, somehow, Gordon, with only an old motorcycle, manages to get to work on time, every day, regardless of the weather?  They're not the type to think about something like that, and I'm not the type to push it in their faces.  I'm just sayin'.  ;D   

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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2005, 07:09:40 PM »
   That International will put those Hummer fools in their place...crush them like little bugs. Good grief!

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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2005, 07:16:32 PM »
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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2005, 09:06:18 PM »
Gee Metalhead, tell us how you really feel!

I hope that guy becomes a millionaire from selling fake mud.

Someday I'm gonna buy an SUV so I can haul stuff or tow a trailer. Until then I'm looking for a BoatTail Riviera with a 455. I figure that I can buy a lot of gas for it with the money I saved from not buying a Prius :)

 
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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2005, 12:22:36 AM »
I don't feel like owning one, but if people want to it's their money. Even Porsche, the high-performance car maker, has come into the arena with the Cayenne...


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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2005, 01:46:04 AM »
It's just a VW with a curvy body...

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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2005, 02:14:13 AM »
This is probably not something that annoys North Americans and Australians as much as it annoys a lot of Brits

Well Loony, Australia, being such a large land mass with such a small population, is 4WD heaven, so there are probably as many 4WD's per head of population here as there are in the US!

I like 'em myself, but only when they're used for their core function as an all terrain vehicle. We have just as many "Soccer Mom's" driving their kids around in pristine Toyota's and Subaru's, but what the heck, how many of us can really justify motorcycle ownership anyway? live and let live, I reckon. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2005, 05:31:46 AM »
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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2005, 11:01:47 AM »
Reminds me of an old Miller High Life (beer) ad: "... but you know full well that the only off-road action that thing ever sees is when it backs over the neighbor's flowerbed!"
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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2005, 01:09:58 PM »
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I like 'em myself, but only when they're used for their core function as an all terrain vehicle. We have just as many "Soccer Mom's" driving their kids around in pristine Toyota's and Subaru's, but what the heck, how many of us can really justify motorcycle ownership anyway? live and let live, I reckon. Cheers, Terry.

Terry the idea here is to rant.  Now rant damn you! ;) :D :D

I can justify owning a motorcycle actually...It gets like 4 times the gas mileage an SUV does and keeps the miles off my cold weather transportation AKA car. ;)

I do like tough, dedicated 4x4 machines but not the ones I refer to as yuppie SUVs like the Lincoln Navigator and the Cadillac....whatever the hell its called, that soccer moms end up thrashing other cars with cuz theyre too damn big.  Case in point:

http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/Forum2005/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32680

Anyway dont take me too seriously...its a rant!  Later.


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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2005, 01:55:10 PM »
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I can justify owning a motorcycle actually...It gets like 4 times the gas mileage an SUV does and keeps the miles off my cold weather transportation AKA car. Wink

Yes and factor in that petrol in the UK costs damn near£1 a litre here in the UK (stop and work that one out for a while) and you start to wonder where all the 4x4 shopping trolley owners get all their money from.

I can see the attraction of them I guess, big comfy, you can see over the traffic and intimidate the drivers of smaller vehicles...but really...... I have to go down a street past an infant school every morning and every morning there are at least 6 4x4's blocking up the road.
My parents didn't even have a car for 6 years when I was a kid (nor even a motorbike!). When we did get a car it was an Austin Metro (not much bigger than an old style mini to those who are not familiar) and we kids WERE FINE in the back.... I mean how much leg-room does a 10 year old need?...rant rant....!

I'd personally love to take a 4x4 off roading so I'm not against 4x4's in general, just this "must have a great big car as all the other parents have" attitude......which really is no help to the environment or to many other UK road users. (Our roads are too small and congested already.).

Did anyone ever see the French and Saunders sketch with the mums in their 4x4's outside the school and the woman who turns up in a tank and drives over everyone elses big cars? I would be too embarrased to ever take kids to school in a 4x4 as the stereotype is just tooooooo cringeworthy.

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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2005, 02:53:37 PM »
I rented a Ford Expedition once while traveling out west. It held myself, my wife, my three kids, my brother and his wife and my mother, with ROOM to spare. They really are amazing vehicles, behemoth in proportions. I couldn't justify owning one on the basis of fuel costs and consumption, but certainly understand the appeal. Everyone out west seems to own one. I would almost bet that that thing could have held a CB750 or two in the back.

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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2005, 03:05:58 PM »

My parents didn't even have a car for 6 years when I was a kid (nor even a motorbike!). When we did get a car it was an Austin Metro (not much bigger than an old style mini to those who are not familiar) and we kids WERE FINE in the back.... I mean how much leg-room does a 10 year old need?...rant rant....!


Ooh, thats nothing, when I was young, we lived in a cardboard box in the middle of the motorway... ;)
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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2005, 03:10:39 PM »
Oh, okay, have it all, then:

Yorkshireman I (Eric Idle):
Very passable, this, eh? Very passable.
All:
Ay, oh ay.
Yorkshireman II (Graham Chapman):
Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselet, eh, Josiah?
Yorkshireman III (Terry Jones):
Oh, you're right there, Obadiah.
Yorkshireman II:
Ay.
Yorkshireman I:
Who would have thought, thirty years ago, we'd all be sitting here drinking Château de Chaselet, eh?
All:
Ay, ay.
Yorkshireman IV (Michael Palin)
Them days we were glad to have the price of a cup of tea.
Yorkshireman II:
Ay! A cup of cold tea!
Yorkshireman IV:
Ay!
Yorkshireman I:
Without milk or sugar!
Yorkshireman III:
Or tea!
Yorkshireman IV:
In a cracked cup and all.
Yorkshireman I:
Oh, we never used to have a cup! We used to have to drink out of a rolled-up newspaper!
Yorkshireman II:
The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
Yorkshireman III:
But you know, we were happy in those days, although we were poor.
Yorkshireman IV:
Because we were poor!
Yorkshireman III:
Ay!
Yorkshireman IV:
My old dad used to say to me: "Money doesn't bring you happiness, son!"
Yorkshireman I:
He was right!
Yorkshireman IV:
Ay!
Yorkshireman I:
I was happier then and I had nothing! We used to live in this tiny old tumble-down house with great big holes in the roof.
Yorkshireman II:
House! You were lucky to live in a house! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture, half the floor was missing, we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of falling.
Yorkshireman III:
You were lucky to have a room! We used to have to live in the corridor!
Yorkshireman IV:
Oh, we used to dream of living in a corridor! Would have been a palace to us! We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House, huh!
Yorkshireman I:
Well, when I say "house", it was just a hole in the ground, covered by a sheet of tarpaulin, but it was a house to us!
Yorkshireman II:
We were evicted from our hole in the ground. We had to go and live in a lake!
Yorkshireman III:
You were lucky to have a lake! There were 150 of us living in a shoebox in the middle of the road!
Yorkshireman IV:
A cardboard box?
Yorkshireman III:
Ay!
Yorkshireman IV:
You were lucky! We lived for three months in a rolled-up newspaper in a septic tank! We used to have to get up every morning, at six o'clock and clean the newspaper, go to work down the mill, fourteen hours a day, week in, week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
Yorkshireman II:
Luxury! We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, work twenty hours a day at mill, for twopence a month, come home, and dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
Yorkshireman III:
Well, of course, we had it tough! We used to have to get up out of the shoebox in the middle of the night, and lick the road clean with our tongues! We had to eat half a handful of freezing cold gravel, work twenty-four hours a day at mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our dad would slice us in two with a breadknife!
Yorkshireman I:
Right! I had to get up in the morning, at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay mill-owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our dad would kill us and dance about on our graves, singing Hallelujah!
Yorkshireman IV:
Oh, ay. And you try and tell the young people of today that, and they won't believe you!
All:
No, no they won't!
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Re: Urban four-wheel drives....
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2005, 05:23:23 PM »
I drive an SUV everyday.  Luckily its just a mid-sized Jeep Cherokee. Its built to be taken offroad, beat, and drive me back home.  It tows my snowmachines in the winter, my quads in the other seasons, and whatever else I put behind it.  I spray mud on it out on the trails. I dont need a bottle.  I too am sick of all the soccer moms who think they need a ginormous vehicle to get little Joey and Sarah to and from soccer practice.  Not to mention the fact that they need a DVD entertainment system, with at least two screens.  Hell my Jeep has one working speaker, and a CD player that skips over every crack in the road.  I just pray they never hit me.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2005, 05:53:59 PM »
I hate the SUV. All I see around here are one or people in the damn thing at one time, clogging the roads and sucking gas.
Last winter my town had a slight freeze and the damn city shut down for the better part of week, the city workers were too afraid to drive in to work during the ice up. I can't recall seeing one SUV on the road at that time.
The Ice didn't slow me down 'cause I drive a Subaru wagon. That thing goes anywhere and has.
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