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Wanna go fast...real fast???
« on: June 22, 2009, 09:16:51 PM »
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 11:13:57 PM »
It's a common mistake that this was the first "factory" turbo bike. It wasn't.

Just like the Yenko Camaro it was a dealer that started producing them. Fastest thing on two wheels at that point.

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2009, 08:03:57 AM »
 ;D

first thing i though (for some reason) was to forward this post to havoc.


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Re: Wanna go fast...real fast???
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 08:32:44 AM »

Go fast...yep
Stop fast...nope
Turn well...nope
Go faster...yep

All you really need right?   ;D

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Re: Wanna go fast...real fast???
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2009, 08:37:36 AM »
yowzaa... thats cool!
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2009, 08:42:46 AM »
thats crazy! super awesome

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2009, 08:50:45 AM »
Havoc explain which was first. I alway considered it as a limited edition bike sold thru the dealer network. A Yenko, I am thinking was only available at Yenko, not all Chevy dealers..

 They were sold thru dealers here,  I KnOW of at least one person that had one. Another bike showed up here and a drag racer  used the Turbo and parted out the rest...  :o
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2009, 07:36:35 PM »
Havoc explain which was first. I alway considered it as a limited edition bike sold thru the dealer network. A Yenko, I am thinking was only available at Yenko, not all Chevy dealers..

 They were sold thru dealers here,  I KnOW of at least one person that had one. Another bike showed up here and a drag racer  used the Turbo and parted out the rest...  :o

 By 1978 Kawasaki's legendary Z1 -- saw its prior performance supremacy eclipsed by the competition, mainly Suzuki's GS1000, Honda's CBX, and even Yamaha's XS1100. A bold stroke was needed. Hence the Z1RTC Turbo. Though not a true "factory" product, the Z Turbo nonetheless was the harbinger of future factory Turbo efforts to follow.

The Z1RTC was built by the Turbo Cycle Corporation (the TC in Z1RTC) utilizing American Turbo-Pak (ATP) turbocharging kits. TC Corp., headed by former Kawasaki marketing director Alan Masek, essentially bought the turbocharger units from ATP, bolted them up to existing Kawasaki Z1Rs and sold them through "select" Kawasaki dealerships, without warranty (you're on your own, kid). The kits were essentially basic Z1 kits sold over the counter, however they featured an improved (No. 370F40) Rayjay turbocharger which utilized a thicker heat shield separating the turbine and compressor housings and a new center-bearing that offered improved lubrication. The turbocharger's wastegate came pre-set to operate at 6-8 lbs. of boost, but could easily be insanely increased via an adjusting screw on the bottom of the wastegate. But since the Z1RTC's crank pins were inexplicably not welded -- a common Z1 performance modification -- your $5,000 investment wouldn't last very long if you got the urge to "boost up." And you'd undoubtedly need to run racing fuel to keep the engine from grenading.

In '78 silver-blue trim the Z1RTC was not exactly a sales success. So TCC painted the remaining warehoused Turbos jet black and added racy red/orange/yellow Molly graphics in an effort to make the bikes more appealing. The marketing ploy worked, but some of the credit had to go to the bike's growing reputation as a two-wheeled hellraiser. TCC even added an improved "spider"-type header to replace the ugly "log"-type unit and the Z1RTCs sold out quickly in '79. But the euphoria over the bike's new-found showroom success was short lived as a new law in California made it illegal for dealers to sell any motorcycles with a modified exhaust system (and a turbocharger is about as modified as you can get). So there were no Z1RTCs in 1980 and the "experiment" was dead.

The Z1RTC performs like you would expect any overly-modified, hinged-framed, skinny-tired, inadequately-braked motorcycle to perform.  :o

If you like being scared this is the Turbo for you.   ;D There were some aftermarket frames that helped but.... It was almost as bad as the H models in terms of handling. Especially at speed.

I paraphrased but.... you get the idea. I believe Honda was the first "factory" turbo but Yamaha might have beat them to it. Both were offered in 82 (?)
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Re: Wanna go fast...real fast???
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2009, 07:23:27 AM »

I'm still on the hunt for a non turbo Z1R.

I do like them bikes!

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 07:52:57 AM »
Havoc, thanks for the info.. I did find a bit of info on  TCC last nite in a 78 mag, it said they carried a limited warranty..

 Was the Z1-R.. the first Kawi fairing bike?
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Re: Wanna go fast...real fast???
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 09:17:54 AM »
My only regret is I never actually fired the bike up with the turbo on it.  Bought the bike and sold off some of the bits including the turbo kit.





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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2009, 09:30:16 AM »
That turbo is based off the original Z motor (rounded cam covers).
The last year (1980, 1979 too?) has the J model style motor with the squared off cam covers and is the year to have (non turbo).
The Z1-R (non turbo 1980 at least) was known as an ok handler, only down slightly on power and having low hanging pipes in stock config.
My buddy raced one and took stock production on it in '81 (lol) in Las Vegas at the old (original) Speedrome track.
I was lucky enough the ride with one regularly!

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Re: Wanna go fast...real fast???
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2009, 09:56:20 AM »

Hey Tintin, is that the "ATP bolt on" turbo setup on that bike of yourn?

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2009, 07:30:20 AM »
Yup - bought that one a couple years back and parted it out.  I found it online locally, called the guy about it with no intention to buy until he told me I could have it for $500 delivered.

Ended up eBay'ing the ATP Turbo kit for $1,500 US, sold the Rickman for $180, the tank, seat and sidecovers for $300 and the rest of the bike for $500.

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2009, 08:34:33 AM »
buy for Less..Sell for More.. :o

 its a way of life.. lol..


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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2009, 09:45:17 AM »
My dad (antique dealer) taught me that LONG ago.  He used to wear a t-shirt that said "I buy Junk, I sell Antiques".
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2009, 09:58:06 PM »
Junk buyer in Tarawna, eh?

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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2009, 08:46:51 AM »
Not sure if it got sold,

 Locally listed Z1-R
 looks good in pic, has 4-1

 4000.00 Can

 on Castanet, under classified Vintage Bikes
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