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aviator84

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81 CB650 Starter Motor
« on: April 19, 2005, 12:21:53 PM »
Hi, I'm new to the board and haven't had my bike for that long.  I have been working on it to get it ready for the summer.  My problem is that the starter motor will spin but it is not engaging the motor.  It sounds like it is trying, it grinds but will not turn the motor over.  I thought it might be the battery but I charged it and still no go.  The meter tells me the battery is fine and holding a charge.  I'm a little vague on how motorcycle starters work.  Could it be the selenoid?  I now on cars that if the selenoid goes bad the starter will not fully engage the flywheel.  Is it the same case here?  Thanks for all your help!

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Re: 81 CB650 Starter Motor
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2005, 12:43:14 PM »
I'm so sorry.
               
Had the same bike, which developed the same problem. Your starter hooks up to a centrifgual clutch that engages to turn the motor.  That clutch is out. It doesn't cost much to buy the clutch, but the thing is internal, and with the condition of my bike, it wasn't worth it.

I push started it for about 4 months. Still ran fine.

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Re: 81 CB650 Starter Motor
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2005, 06:53:09 PM »
Somewhere in the old message boards someone had posted how to change the starter clutch with out splitin the cases.  Printed it and saved it but where it is couldnt say where it is right now.  Wanted to try it as my dad bought a 81 cheap but the clutch is out so gonna try it.



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Re: 81 CB650 Starter Motor
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2005, 06:56:58 PM »
Is this the post..?

It can be done! Not only have I done it, but a few weeks ago Steve Tenenbaum and I did his. You don't even have to take the engine out of the bike. Here's how:
1. Remove oil pan, clutch cover, & clutch. The clutch "requires" a special socket from Honda, but I made it out of a 1" diameter steel plumbing pipe and a dremel. Follow the manual's instructions, but don't disassemble the clutch, just take it out.

2. Loosen the two bolts holding the primary shaft in and slide it out. The starter clutch is bolted to the primary drive chain gear, so the chain will keep it from falling out.

3. There are three bolts that hold the starter clutch to the primary gear - you need a Torx 30 head to get them out. You can see them through the hole the primary shaft slid out of. It's tricky, because you have to go through the holes in the starter gear to get to the bolts, and you have to loosen all three before taking it out because the bolt head won't fit through the holes in the starter gear.

Once unbolted it should drop out, and you can see what's wrong with it. On mine and Steve's both, the three holes in the edge of the clutch-outer were warped, and the springs behind the roller push-pins were mangled. Here's a link to the parts, and this site uses the same diagrams the dealers do:

http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/oem_schematic_vie w.asp?schem_dept_id=213328§ion_dept_id=1§ion_dept_name=OEM+% 28Stock+Parts% 29&dept_type_id=2&model_dept_year=1981&model_dept_mfr=Honda&model_dept _id=206277&model_dept_name=CB650

It took us about 2.5 hours to change out Steve's and neither of us have had any problems since the operation. The parts can be expensive, but if you look on eBay you can sometimes get lucky. Email me if you have any questions, and if you live near St. Louis, MO I'd be glad to help out. Good luck!
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Re: 81 CB650 Starter Motor
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2005, 07:00:36 PM »
YES looks like it.  Thanks BOB W.


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Re: 81 CB650 Starter Motor
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 03:27:04 PM »
I guess I'm bumping an old topic, but I just wanted to say that the description posted above works fine. I have rebuilt the starter clutch in my CB650 today and it was pretty straight forward, just as described.