Topic: CB750A Street ET bracket drag bike. A year to build it.

[Sam Green Racing]

  less beer, more fishing. 

Sam.

[scunny]

stop hyjacking your own thread Sam.
and what is it about that file ?

[Sam Green Racing]

Top secret Lar, You'll have to PM Billy. 

Sam.

[scunny]

bastard 
think I'll do that.

[Jim F]

Cool,pics of this past weekend!
Sam Green gettin it DONE!!!!

POPS,we enjoyed the show! ...Is that Rob Muzzy,oh no Mr. Jim French!!! Jim,Thanks!
I knew I should have grown my handle bar mustache

I think it starts like this!

And then we ready!!

More later,Hopefully Samauto will be in the 11's,Calendar Girl for sure! Bill

[scottly]

bastard 
think I'll do that.

I'm totally lost here: bastard file? 

[Sam Green Racing]

To be honest guys, if we told you, we would have to kill you. and getting anything out of Billy is like getting blood out of a stone. Try asking him where he got the compression paste from.
 

Sam.

[Jim F]

 
I got the line lock ordered today with a switch from MPS
just hold the button in and it locks up
then release when you see that last light
electrical solenoid to tie in to the 12 volt system
but air actuated

looks clean and simple
need to put the air bottle somewhere but that shouldn't be a problem
I would think that a full bottle would last all weekend

need to get the bike over to my shop for the final fitting
will keep you posted

Jim

[Bill/BentON Racing]

  See,I told you Jim was on it!!!! ;)Sam,it'll go and whoa!!!! Bill
Was offered some Hi/Po parts today,915cc kit,and cylinder,bored etc,crank with RC Golden rods,Not sure of crank work,if any.29mm smoothbores also.May take in partial trade on Rickman CR750. He's coming over tomorrow evening.
We'll see. Bill

[jweeks]

What's the air bottle for? The line lock sure doesn't use it. Are you looking to auto-shift it? I'd check out the rules before I added that for Street ET events.   

                              Jon Weeks

[Jim F]

you have to use an air supply to actuate the cylinder to push in the brake arm
the air cylinder is actuated threw an electric solenoid
push the button
the solenoid actuates the air cylinder and you have your brakes locked
then just release the button and off you go

Sam check with the rules guys and its leagle at lease here in the south
we thought about using the air shifter but you only need to shift one time so there's no point

Sam and Bill don't have guerrilla strength hands as they accuse me of having  and I cant stay on the line
and hold it for them

[jweeks]

If you're using an air cylinder to activate the brake cylinder, why use a line lock? Are you assuming that the air pressure won't last the 10 seconds max that the brake is applied on the starting line? I thought that you guys were going to a foot lever to get the pressure that Sam's arm couldn't create? Are you planning on keeping the existing brake cylinder on the handlebars with an air assist? 2 Dual opposed calipers require a fair amount of brake fluid volume to get your brakes applied. There's a lot of science in the cylinder bore diameter and the stroke of that bore to meet the needs of the rear brake system. I wish you luck with your design.

                                                                   Jon Weeks

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Jon,we are exploring the different/best way to achieve our goal.We're starting with the MPS kit,not sure how we'll plumb,may end up with the Brembo's on there.! ...We aren't assuming anything except we will prevail. ;)We want to see you in November,it ought to be big fun! Bill

[Sam Green Racing]

People, the line lock is legal under ManU (AMA) rules as is the air shifter which we never got round to fitting.
If we go with the air assist for the brake, could not the same cylinder not be used for the shiffter.
We also have the shift minder that I don't think is legal.

Sam.

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Brakes first,one shift not worth air shifter,my .02cents.Be ready,bike will be different animule!!!! Bill

[POPS 911]

FOLKS:  You got a line lock already on that bike !!!  Take that rear solid disc to a shop and have it trued on both sides, rebuild the calipers  with new K&L parts from e-bay, put in a new set of  SBS  BRAKE PADS also from e-bay, use 3-4 brake fluid and vaccum bleed the system, buy a Blue small shift light that you can set RPM'S on with a dial and a digital readout [ $ 45 ] on ebay. Sit on bike an open throttle with hand brake pulled in and when bike pulls off [ watching tach ] set that Blue shift light 200-400 RPM under that number.  Pull up to the line on last top yellow and lock the rear brake by hand lever on the left, roll throttle up so you can see that Blue shift light come on at your launch RPM'S when the tree falls to the last yellow bulb , let that brake lever go and Screw out the throttle at the same time = .501 light and you just made a past on a BUSAMATIC  10MM stroker run 8.05 all-motor, slider,auto-shift or SAM'S HONDAMATIC  I'll let SAM ride this BUSAMATIC as you do-not need a 9.99 license to ride at a CUP EVENT.  If this simple set up can hold back a 245 HORSEPOWERED bike from pulling thru the lights why would it not work on a HONDAMATIC??  Sam sew some VELCRO on the seat of you leathers as me and TROY will bring the stroker for you to ride or race......... way over 150,160, mph in the 1/4 mile
MR. HONDAMATIC WEEKS: Would this not be a simple fix NO AIR,NO ELECTRIC, JUST A SIMPLE HAND LEVER...............

POPS BK911 NHRA

[POPS 911]

SAM: The BUSAMATIC run 7.77 ET at 177MPH so sew a lot of VELCRO on your seat of your leathers. Owner said I could not paint it red, but I got a complete set of plastics for a BUSA = so a HONDA RED PAINT JOB  and HONDAMATIC BADGE will be on this KZ 12-14 killer.

POPS BK911  NHRA

[Sam Green Racing]

62 points Richard, that 400 rocks

http://www.manufacturerscup.info/points_2012_set.html

Sam.

[Jim F]

Got the line lock in and all hardware
Lots of brackets to make

Jim

[POPS 911]

Why not a ELECTRIC SOLENOID SHIFTER KIT from JEGS [ 555-62300 ] with a MPS button for a shift from 1-2 with NO LETTING OFF THE THROTTLE ?  If you go with the line lock that needs a AIR BOTTLE =  use a bottle from a paint ball gun as they are small and can be refilled after many uses for $2.00 as most drag racer use these small [ high pressure ] bottles.
SAM when BOO and RICKEY see you on the RED HONDAMATIC BUSA they will be watching you make passes on the 1320 feet = RIGHT ??

POPS BK911  NHRA

Points mean nothing to me but a win light in the FINAL = A GOOD DAY AT THE TRACK, will be going for that WIN this SUNDAY..............

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Look,a STAND for staging lanes,no mo having to breath nitro!

Found in batcave!

My buddy Neil Nicholls toolbox!!He crated the CBX for me.

Old school fo sure!!!

Got some carbs coming........mo later.Another pc of the puzzle! Bill

[Sam Green Racing]

Did he have to keep expanding the size of the tool chest because he ran out of room for the stickers.

Sam

[Jim F]

always have to add to your tool box for the stickers

[dragracer]

you have to use an air supply to actuate the cylinder to push in the brake arm
the air cylinder is actuated threw an electric solenoid
push the button
the solenoid actuates the air cylinder and you have your brakes locked
then just release the button and off you go

Sam check with the rules guys and its leagle at lease here in the south
we thought about using the air shifter but you only need to shift one time so there's no point

Sam and Bill don't have guerrilla strength hands as they accuse me of having  and I cant stay on the line
and hold it for them

I have a similar set up on my small tire dragbike. The bike would momentarily "jump" when i locked down on the 2 step for some reason. I couldn't quite figure out what was going on with the clutch set up to rectify the issue so i used a single acting pneumatic cylinder to push the brake pedal at the very moment i went lock throttle. I had an adjustable micro switch mounted near the throttle and got a friend to machine a collar to fit onto the throttle itself. I reduced the diameter of the collar at a given point and length so the micro switch would make contact as i rolled on the throttle and it would lock the air cylinder electrically via a electric over air solenoid. The main reason for having it activated through the throttle at a pre set point was so i could still the bike into the beams after pressing the button in to activate the delay box. If i had just used the direct function of the line lock feature on the delay box, the bike would stop moving at exactly the point i pushed in the launch button- i only wanted to do one thing myself and let the gadgets do the rest. In the case of Samauto, in place of the delay box initial activation, you would wire it into a micro switch mounted on the handle bar to launch the bike. The shorter the travel, the quicker the reaction time. MPS sells the pro mod launch button assemblys or since you have a built in machinist, i'm sure he can hook you guys up with a less expensive but just as effective product. MPS also sells an adjustable launch button called the Holeshot. The draw back for me is it only has a 2 way switch. 

[POPS 911]

DRAGRACER:  I thought you have to apply the brake [ foot or hand lever ] then push and hold 12 volt line lock button ?  Their is a throttle with a micro button in place for a NOS launch as you screw out throttle from launch = used on PRO-MOD bike in 1991.  IF YOU HAD A TWO STEP WIRE TO YOUR DELAY BUTTON why did bike move when you opened the throttle all the way open ?  On a slider [ or lock up system ] you adjust the two step RPMS to just start to pull you = BUTTON OR LEVER your ready....  If they take that bike to a NHRA rules track to race then some MORON will run to the tower and complain about all the electronics foe ST/ET. = I know this for a fact as the MORON I race every weekend ran to the tower to tell them I had a delay box and a two step in my turtle.................. dumb ass it's a HONDAMATIC = LOVE TO BEAT HIM = missed that this weekend as I broke out more [ against this MORON ] in the final three, dam CV CARBS TO FAST WHEN TEMP DROPPED between rounds.

POPS BK911 NHRA

PS. As I was leaving the track Sunday night the track ST/ET Champ came up to me and asked = POPS you going to get in the points this year     MY ANSWER : NO , just coming out to mess up the point spread.