Topic: how to wire?

[Loki]

well im putting leds in the front of my bike and im looking at resistors to help the signal flash, but im a little confused this one im looking at has two wires in and out. now im assuming that you connect one to black and one to yellow and then the same for the wire coming out, but im not sure.can any one help?
                                                             
                                                     

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380183169510&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[Spanner 1]

Looks like you get 2 pcs. for the price, one for left and right. So, connect ,say, yellow to ground ( either one, it's just an option for male or female connection ) and the black to Blue ( rt. side )  along with the existing Blue wire.
Same for Left with black to Orange.....insulate the unused wires, or cut'em off right under that black insulation......
This would need to be in the h/l bucket where the blinker wires ( go to front and back ) are accessible........

[Loki]

ok to ground and power in come into one pair (black, yellow) then go to the light with the other black and yellow.

[Spanner 1]

The confusion seems to be that there is 2 yellow and 2 black wires on each resistor. Just choose 1 yellow and 1 black , ignore ( cut-off or insulate unused ) . 1 yellow to ground,1 black to blue (right)........ 1 yellow to ground,1 black to orange(left)......you get 2 resistors for the price.

[Loki]

ok ya theres a bit, o lets assume that theres only the two wires. how do you wire them up?...you have the the wires from the light and the wires from the bike.would you just Solder the three wires together?

[mystic_1]

OK, so this is based on my understanding but I have no experience with running "load balancers" but here goes:

If you were to wire this resister inline with your lights, you're raising the resistance of the LED circuit which will lower their brightness and power consumption, this is not what you want to accomplish.

You need to add MORE power consumption to keep your flasher happy.

It's my understand that what you want to do is to connect the resistor across the turn signal's lead, so that when power is flowing to the LED's additional current is also flowing through the resistor to ground.  The resistor turns the excess current into heat, which is why the listing says the resistor will get hot.

So, like this:

               + ------------+-------------
FROM BIKE            [RESISTOR]         [SIGNAL]
               - ------------+-------------

This, the resistor gives you two leads on each side to provide the "T" connection you need.  Unplug the leads from the signal, plug the resistor in it's place using one pair of YEL/BLK wires, then take the signal leads and plug them into the OTHER pair of YEL/BLK wires, and you should be good to go.

Someone jump in if I'm off-base here.

mystic_1

[Loki]

ok great ! ya see thats what i was a little confused about, i thought thast how it would go but i wasn't sure. thanks.
plus what are the problems with leds in the front and back.

[Fritz]

plus what are the problems with leds in the front and back.

Just doing some quick calculations, I think that the resitance of 6.8 Ohms is for one turn signal only. (23W/12V = 1.92 A, 12V/1.92 A = 6.25 Ohms)
In order to "drive" two LED signals (front and back) you will have to use two resistors in parallel per side thus bringing down the resistance to 3.4 Ohms.

It would be better to buy two resistors 50W/3R3 for approx. $8 and to cut the wires from the resistors that you already have and solder them to the higher rated ones than to spend more money on overpriced "Flash Rate Controllers".

Or you forget about these energy burning makeshift "controllers" and go with the "real" solution and buy an led flasher relay. Your battery will be grateful.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/12V-Adj-Flash-Rate-Electronic-LED-Flasher-Relay-B_W0QQitemZ150393335709QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2304242f9d

[Loki]

ok so its would be better to go with something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/12v-LED-ELECTRONIC-LED-FLASHER-RELAY-for-MOTORCYCLES_W0QQitemZ300333189198QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45ed40c84e

how would this be wired and would i need one for each light?

[MJL]

ok so its would be better to go with something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/12v-LED-ELECTRONIC-LED-FLASHER-RELAY-for-MOTORCYCLES_W0QQitemZ300333189198QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45ed40c84e

how would this be wired and would i need one for each light?

Use this, you only need one. Cut the end off the wires and splice them to the wiring that the stock flasher plugs into.

[Loki]

so i only need one....and this will take the load of all four lights signaling? and by stock flasher do you mean turn signal relay? i have the wiring diagram for the bike in front of me.

[Fritz]

ok so its would be better to go with something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/12v-LED-ELECTRONIC-LED-FLASHER-RELAY-for-MOTORCYCLES_W0QQitemZ300333189198QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45ed40c84e

how would this be wired and would i need one for each light?

It will replace the stock relay in your bike, so you will only need one for all four signals.

Your stock relay has three connectors: Green (Ground), Black (+12V), Grey (Signal)
Wiring up the LED relay is quite easy: The one that you have linked has just two wires. The black one goes to signal (grey) and the red one to +12V (black).
You'll have to cut the connector and put some blade connectors on the wires.

The advantages over the load resistors are:
- less current drawn from the battery
- does not heat up
- easy to install

There are some disadvantages though:
- only drives LED signals, if you want to reuse your stock signals, you will also have to replace the LED relay with the stock one
- if one of your signals breaks, the stock relay will give you feedback by flashing rapidly; the LED relay will flash with the same speed no matter how many working signals are connected to it

The one that I have looked up is able to drive LEDs and the stock signals. I would go for that, because I think it is much more stable as it can handle more current and you will be able to reuse your stock signals without needing to refit your stock relay.

[Loki]

ok so it doesnt need a ground to it? and what would you suggest to buy if you could throw me a link that would be great! thanks

[Don R]

If this gets popular enough maybe Hondaman will make us a plug in module!

[Fritz]

ok so it doesnt need a ground to it? and what would you suggest to buy if you could throw me a link that would be great! thanks

If it has two wires: no ground required.
If it has three wires: Black goes to ground (green), Red goes to +12V(black) and the third to signal (grey).

There are so many flasher relays around that I'd decide by price and the ability to drive more than LEDs, like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/12V-Adj-Flash-Rate-Electronic-LED-Flasher-Relay-B_W0QQitemZ150393335709QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2304242f9d

Or this:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/3-Pins-Electronic-LED-Blinker-Relay-Flasher-Fix-Signal_W0QQitemZ220509372327QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item335761ffa7
(E = green, B = black, L = grey)

Edit: The stock signals draw about 8 Amps. So any "LED" relay that handles 10 or more amps can be used as a replacement for the original no matter if you drive LED or light bulb signals.

[Loki]

ok so this has been really helpful, so i just replace the relay with this new led one and the flashes will be at a slower rate and the front lights will have no problem running all the time like they do?

[bert96]

this one is nice,because you can adjust the rate of the flasher,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170414902038&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Bert