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identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« on: December 11, 2009, 03:21:47 PM »
what numbers am i going to find stamped on those cams to identify them? i'll also measure but i'm thinking there must be a number of some kind on it as well. trying to find one of the stock 750f cams rather than have to spend 200 dollars or more for an aftermarket cam. i have to do this bike on a really small budget. i figure to replace the cam when i have to pull the valve cover off to re-totque the head bolts in a couple of months.
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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2009, 11:03:42 PM »
Fuzz,

You're not going to find an ID. I'd try to get one off a known 77/78 F. Someone might be able to give you lobe height but that also depends on wear so keep that in mind.
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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 11:21:52 PM »
ok, i'll give it a shot as i really do want more duration and loft but not crazy amounts and not crazy money. i should rename project fuzzycycle to project NO budget LOL  :D
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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 11:30:12 PM »
 ;D  Since there are no numbers, my brother wouldn't know if I did the ole switcharoo on his parts 77F cam would he? dang I wonder if he got his computer fixed yet? He might be lurking. :o
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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 11:58:09 PM »
;D  Since there are no numbers, my brother wouldn't know if I did the ole switcharoo on his parts 77F cam would he? dang I wonder if he got his computer fixed yet? He might be lurking. :o

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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 08:09:12 AM »
If you have the F cam in your hands, and a stocker, you will see the diff. The F has noticeable difference in duration.
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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 09:16:56 PM »
;D  Since there are no numbers, my brother wouldn't know if I did the ole switcharoo on his parts 77F cam would he? dang I wonder if he got his computer fixed yet? He might be lurking. :o

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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 09:24:15 PM »
;D  Since there are no numbers, my brother wouldn't know if I did the ole switcharoo on his parts 77F cam would he? dang I wonder if he got his computer fixed yet? He might be lurking. :o

 :D
Well he bought me dinner tonight so I only stole the shocks that he left in the snow. It's for his own good.

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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 10:53:34 PM »
Fuzzy,

Check out this picture. On the left is a new Megaycyle 125-75 ; center is my ~6000 mile 75 750 F0 ; and on the right is a cam I removed from a 750 K8 miles unknown.



It was difficult to get a close up straight on shot without distortion so I angled the 2 outside cams somewhat to attempt to get a better representation for comparison. There were a couple interesting observations after I also took a manila file folder and traced the lobes, cut them out then compared the actual intake and exhaust shapes. First somewhat expected observation was the F0 and K8 appear to be identical in lobe shapes both intake and exhaust. This was expected since the K8 engine is a derivative of the F0. The K8 cam appears to perhaps be larger than the F0 but it isn't. The rear was a little higher on the K8 and the angle actually shows some of the bearing surface too but not on the F0. Even though indentical Honda has these 2 seemingly identical cams timed 5o apart. The other unexpected observation with the Megacycle 125-75, other than the expected larger intake lobe profile, was that it also appears to share an identical exhaust lobe profile with the 2 stock cams! I'll get around to posting the actual lobe profile cutouts after I attach them to a darker contrast background and get them scanned.

This type of actual lobe profiling comparisons could be very handy provided we are working with known entities. Too bad I do not have a F2/F3 for comparison.  
« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 11:25:20 PM by Jerry Rxman Griffin »
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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 05:33:13 AM »
Jerry, the Megacycle cam will undoubtedly have a reduced base circle compared to stock so even if the exhaust lobe shape appears similar that will make the difference.

Hold out a while Bucky, maybe the holy grail of cams may appear.  ;D

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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 05:48:36 AM »
Have you ever seen a flying pig Brent. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 07:10:28 AM »
Ahh, not for a long time Sam.  ::)  ::)

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Re: identifying a 1977 or 1978 cb750f cam
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 01:52:10 AM »
still hunting but i'm not going to be in a big rush for it. hell, it took me 2 years to do a simple tear down and prettifying of the thing  :D
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