Author Topic: Ack! screw in the tire! (Read 2894 times)

d3buttz · « **on:** December 17, 2009, 04:54:38 PM »

i finally got around to installing a lockhart oil cooler on my bike today and on my test ride i got a screw in my front tire. i know i shouldnt leave it in nor ride it in this condition. do i pull it out and if there is no air leak im ok right? would a slight tear/no puncture in the tube still pose a risk later? do i just go ahead and replace the tube AND TIRE?
ive never had this issiue and i will avoid any possible risk of a blowout on the road.................ill pay for a new tire if its needed. im just really concerned about my safety. thaughts?

cb650 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:07:04 PM »

That sucks. If the tire is still in good shape and it leaks when you pull it a patch on the inside and a new tube. Unless your running fast all the time then its better to be safe with the front. If it dont leak mark the spot and keep a eye on it. I'm sure I'll be corrected but I'm used to it.

What part of denver you in?

d3buttz · « **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:12:27 PM »

thanks for the advice-its just upsetting, a nice day for a ride. im up here by lowell and i-70.

MötleyRöx · « **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:16:27 PM »

I'd give buying a new tube a shot and using the repair plug fix on your tire.
Take it slow for a few days and see if you notice poor handling.

Gordon · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:16:48 PM »

You have spoke rims, right? If it's still holding air then the tube isn't puncured, but I'd still remove the tire to check and make sure it didn't get nicked, and probably put a patch on the inside of the tire.

d3buttz · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:20:58 PM »

ill go ahead and pull my tire off-im sure it will leak when i pull that screw anyways. now only if i still had my center stand it would be an easy endeavor. doh!

thanks guys!

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:22:53 PM »

I would have it patched straight away, plugs are not used any more on bikes in Australia.
You do not want to risk riding like it is because if that screw is in the tube and it is possible, it may just come out in a hurry and cause a nasty accident.. Not trying to be melodramatic...it is your front tyre ...

Mick

d3buttz · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:24:39 PM »

so your saying patch the tire? im going to replace the tube for sure.

cb650 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:25:58 PM »

$hit even Gordon didnt say i was full of crap. Maybe i'll get lucky this time.

I'm not to far from you. At I-25 and 58th.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:26:33 PM »

Quote from: d3buttz on December 17, 2009, 05:24:39 PM

so your saying patch the tire? im going to replace the tube for sure.

Well that would be a given if you find a hole in the tube....

I suppose you could patch the tube as well.

Mick

d3buttz · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:31:59 PM »

Quote from: retro rocket on December 17, 2009, 05:26:33 PM

Quote from: d3buttz on December 17, 2009, 05:24:39 PM
so your saying patch the tire? im going to replace the tube for sure.

Well that would be a given if you find a hole in the tube.... I suppose you could patch the tube as well.

Mick

ha! maybe i should've spelled it tyre to be clearer.

Gordon · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:33:13 PM »

Quote from: cb650 on December 17, 2009, 05:25:58 PM

$hit even Gordon didnt say i was full of crap. Maybe i'll get lucky this time.

Oops! Thanks for reminding me.

You're full of crap, Terry!

p.s. I still owe you ten bucks or a 12-pack of PBR. I haven't forgotten.

BobbyR · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:33:45 PM »

If you have only a tiny hole in the tire why would you patch it. The tube holds the air in on a spoked wheel. If you replace the tube and there is no real cord damage there is no issue. Putting a patch on the inside of the tire would make it rub against the tube which can cause unsafe situation.

d3buttz · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:35:21 PM »

very true-that was my understanding. i just wanna be safe.

MötleyRöx · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:39:56 PM »

I would rather have material in the hole than not... which is why i suggest the plug.
shave the outside and inside of the plug if you feel so inclined.

BobbyR · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:47:04 PM »

Quote from: MötleyRöx on December 17, 2009, 05:39:56 PM

I would rather have material in the hole than not... which is why i suggest the plug.
shave the outside and inside of the plug if you feel so inclined.

What is it you expect to get into a hole which will probably become invisible, that would not go through the spoke nipples or valve stem hole at the top?

MötleyRöx · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:50:17 PM »

patch kit foo!
i've patched many a tire.

you ram it in there and plug the hole! you're a guy, come on!

(I'm talking about the tire, not the tube.)

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:00:31 PM »

Quote from: BobbyR on December 17, 2009, 05:47:04 PM

Quote from: MötleyRöx on December 17, 2009, 05:39:56 PM
I would rather have material in the hole than not... which is why i suggest the plug.
shave the outside and inside of the plug if you feel so inclined.
What is it you expect to get into a hole which will probably become invisible, that would not go through the spoke nipples or valve stem hole at the top?

Exactly Bobby, the plugs are NOT used on bikes here because they are known to fail and unbalance the tire as well. As soon as the screw comes out the hole closes....simple....

Mick

TwoTired · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:21:28 PM »

There is a screw in the tire and it is not losing air?

The tube holds the air. Not the tire. The tire must only hold the shape. Did the screw damage the tire in a way it would not keep it's shape?
If it hasn't punctured the tube and the tire carcass doesn't distort from damage, then just take out the screw and drive on.
If the screw has punctured the tube, either patch or better, replace the tube.
If the screw hasn't damaged the tire woven structure, then the tire is still good. Just don't go over the tire speed rating.

Whatever you do, don't put the bike on a runway, or in a boat!

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:41:11 PM »

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Whatever you do, don't put the bike on a runway, or in a boat!

Mick

mystic_1 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:56:11 PM »

Quote from: retro rocket on December 17, 2009, 06:41:11 PM

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Whatever you do, don't put the bike on a runway, or in a boat!

Mick

Ha ha!

mystic_1

Gordon · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:56:55 PM »

Quote from: TwoTired on December 17, 2009, 06:21:28 PM

There is a screw in the tire and it is not losing air?

The tube holds the air. Not the tire.

That's what I was saying. Except that it's possible the screw is poking into the tube without puncturing it, but could still have created a weak spot in the tube.

shizzomynizzo · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:00:52 PM »

Use a radial patch (from the inside) and not the worm style IF you decide to patch.

Don't patch a tube, 10 - 15 bucks isn't worth risking an accident if the tube blows out

BobbyR · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:01:36 PM »

Quote from: Gordon on December 17, 2009, 06:56:55 PM

Quote from: TwoTired on December 17, 2009, 06:21:28 PM
There is a screw in the tire and it is not losing air?

The tube holds the air. Not the tire.

That's what I was saying. Except that it's possible the screw is poking into the tube without puncturing it, but could still have created a weak spot in the tube.

OK change the tube.

camelman · « **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:25:29 PM »

JB Weld. First and last suggestion. There is a possibility that Rye and Whiskey are talking right now, but I wouldn't let that influence your decision!

Seriously, if the tire holds air right now, then pull the screw out and call it a day. If the screw is long enough to have scratched, scraped, punctured, the tube, then replace the tube. Very few screws (okay, no one needs to brag here) require patching a tire that has an inner tube backing it. Besides, I've had plenty of high-speed blow outs on my road bicycle (front and rear), and nothing came from it other than sitting up and stopping. Granted, I've spent more time on state disability than most people in the USA, but I still think you should just chance it.

California can't put a breathalyzer on my keyboard can they?

Camelman

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