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Offline Faust

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"purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« on: January 04, 2006, 07:55:15 PM »
I am looking at another 550 parts bike for my restoration project, the exhaust is fairly good with some of the chrome gone purple. Is there any cure for this? My shop is pretty fully equipped.
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2006, 08:00:51 PM »
Bluing is caused by heat.  If you do a google search on 'chrome bluing', you'll find references to stuff that claims to remove the bluing.  No idea whether these compounds work.  If you keep having this problem, it could just be something to be expected or could be cured by adjusting the carbs to enrich the mixture and lower the exhaust gas temps.

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2006, 12:46:23 AM »
I've been told you can reduce the bluing by lining the insides orf your exhaust with vht paint ,and by building a carbon layer up inside  to protect the chrome from heat .
 I've heard various methods for doing this but it all sounds a bit science fiction to me .
Good polish can save the pipes if they're gold but I trhink purple may be too far gone
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2006, 12:47:46 AM »
I just use Autosol Chrome Polish and elbow grease....works for me...cheers
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2006, 01:03:40 AM »
If they are aftermarket pipes just live with it you will never cure it. Honda used double wall pipes to stop this
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2006, 01:13:47 AM »
Somewhere at the back of my mind (and I'm going back 25 years or more for this) I seem to remember a "cure" for discoloration to the pipes - especially when they're new (-ish)....Heavy guage Copper wire bound in tight turns around the pipes, as close to the cylinder head as possible. It would need probably 6 inches or so for each pipe.
The theory being that heat is transferred to the copper wire more easily than to the steel of the pipe(s), thus dissipating the heat more readily and keeping the pipes at a cooler temperature.  This (supposedly) stops the pipes from discoloration until a few hundred miles have been put on them (can't remember just how many - 500 or so?  I guess it would look like hell for as long as the wire was wrapped around the pipes, but if it worked, they'd be no problem thereafter.

Anyone chime in on this, or have tried it?

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2006, 02:42:12 AM »
I have heard the copper wire solution and seem to remember people trying it, but I don't believe it worked as the practice died out.
Personally I think the bluing looks good? it gives the bike some character..
My exhausts are blue, but I do not think the bike is runnning lean, not by looking at the plugs and the black deposit on the end of the silencer? Will all (single skin) exhausts blue under certain amounts of heat?, therefore the bike might be running fine??
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2006, 10:18:32 AM »
yea,tell em jim. ;D
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2006, 11:31:55 AM »
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Cure the Chrome Plated Header Blues - Blue Away, long time favorite of the motorcycle industry, removes discoloration from chrome and stainless steel exhaust pipes. 2.5 ounce bottle goes a long way. Just apply a little to a clean soft cloth and buff away discoloration. Imported from Germany.

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2006, 12:45:43 PM »
The "Blue Away" product is prob. the best in what you are looking to do. NO product will restore a "blued" pipe
to new condition. A pipe that looks to be copper , is just one step away from becoming blue. The blue away will make
the pipe look better , but not restore....

Double walled pipes are the best defense aginst blueing , as is having the inside of the pipe ceramic coated to
prevent the heat from getting to the chrome...
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2006, 06:22:52 PM »
the blue is simply a sign that you have no idea how to tune your carbs.... "you" being whoever tuned those carbs... but, clean them off... tune those things right and the blue should stay away.

if you cant get the blue off... it will forever be a reminder of the leaps and bounds you've made in the world of mechanics  ;D
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2006, 08:52:55 PM »
A rich-running engine (like misjetting or late timing or weak ignition spark) causes the bluing. The fuel is still burning as it exits the engine, because it did not burn well inside. Get the tuning right and the blues will stay away.
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2006, 01:55:36 AM »
I have seen almost new bikes that are well tuned(and fuel injected) that have bluing on the exhausts. I had always been told that 'hard riding' of a bike can blue the exhaust??

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2006, 10:48:15 AM »
There's another product call "Blue Job" (I think).
It's a white powder like flour that you put on a damp cloth and scub.

IT SUCKS!

I've rubbed Blue Job on my pipes until I was blue in the face and it still didn't work.
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2006, 06:26:53 PM »
blue job,i aint touchin that with a ten foot pole.oh #$%* i said pole too.damnit :D
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2006, 09:34:46 PM »
blue job,i aint touchin that with a ten foot pole.oh #$%* i said pole too.damnit :D

It is easy to get confused with Poles, I have met a few that I thought were Czechs.

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2006, 08:42:57 PM »
Folks who ride too long with their choke on (Kawie LTD injecteds were famous for this) also turns the pipes blue from the over-richness.
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2006, 09:32:40 PM »
I think the purpose of this thread was misunderstood. I know where the purple/blue comes from. My question concerned removing it if it was still light.

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2007, 12:48:32 PM »
what wrong with a well tuned engine with slightly colored headers (blue, golden and other tans) .. it looks beautiful to me ..  but of course beauty lies in the eye of the beholder ..

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2007, 04:19:16 PM »
Blue Away or Blue-Job works best IF you apply w/ 000 steel wool. It does dull the chrome a bit from all that abrasive rubbing.

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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2007, 04:21:06 PM »
Blue Away or Blue-Job works best IF you apply w/ 000 steel wool. It does dull the chrome a bit from all that abrasive rubbing.

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2007, 07:32:14 PM »
The drool you see running down those pipes is mine...  :-*
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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2007, 07:39:38 PM »
When did Honda make a 12 cylinder engine? 

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2007, 07:46:19 PM »
When did Honda make a 12 cylinder engine? 

It was a Formula 1 car from the early seventies.

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Re: "purple" chrome on exhaust pipes.
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2007, 02:00:00 AM »
ceramic hi heat paint as a last resort or you can wrap them.....


i have heard good things about blue away from other sources though,

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