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Beautiful Day To Do A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« on: March 27, 2010, 10:43:34 AM »

          Then I snapped the left rear brake line! >:( ::)

     Called a parts store that carries the metal brake lines and they were already closed! :-X Called O'Reilly's just by chance AND they Carry them! Now, lets see how things go from here on out! ;)
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2010, 11:39:22 AM »



  Ha! Ha! It's been a very long time since I've done a complete brake job on a car with drum brakes all the way round. ::) :D
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2010, 11:40:32 AM »
Good lord Bill get a front disc conversion...

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Re: Beautiful Day To D A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 12:26:25 PM »
my 70 galaxie with a 429 auto was hairy with non vacuum assist  drumsall around, cant imagine driving that monster with em Bill  :D
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2010, 12:51:40 PM »
my 70 galaxie with a 429 auto was hairy with non vacuum assist  drumsall around, cant imagine driving that monster with em Bill  :D

LMAO...that brought back memories....

Had a 64' with a 390.......at 120 mph the drums would slow you to about 30 in a panic stop...then ya kinda coasted.

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Re: Beautiful Day To D A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2010, 01:28:39 PM »
if i went over 125 or so and tried to panic stop i'd get it back down to around 50 then the pedal just dropped to the floor. i love the smell of boiling brake fluid  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2010, 04:50:06 PM »
Good lord Bill get a front disc conversion...

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           What can I say, its original! ;D The POWER from THIS car, comes from the 440 sitting in the engine bay! 8) It came with 11" drum brakes all the way round and with NO power option. It ALSO came with manual steering with an aluminum steering box as well. Driving it isn't too bad except when you have to put it in or get it out of a parking spot! ::) Biggest features on THIS car are the 440 Super Commando engine, the 4speed trans w/ the Hurst shifter AND the 8 3/4 rear end w/ positraction (Chrylser called it "Sure Grip") that was swapped in, under a Previous owner. If I was gonna go in and do some converting on the brake system, I'd LIKE to put Discs all the way round.

      Now, if you want to go the "Dreaming Route"

               1. 4 wheel disc brakes
               2. 6sp Keisler trans setup
               3. Power steering setup from Unisteer
               Do I need to go on? ??? :D ;)
   
   
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Re: Beautiful Day To D A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2010, 05:06:15 PM »
Oooh, nice reading...

The 440 was produced from 1966 until 1978, making it the last version of the Chrysler RB block. It had a cast iron block with iron heads and a bore of 4.32 inches (109.73 mm).

From 1967 to 1971 the high performance version was rated at 375 (370 in '71) SAE gross bhp (280 kW) at 4700 rpm with a single four barrel carburetor, and from 1969 to 1971, the highest output version had a 3-2 bbl. intake setup ("440 Six Pack" for Dodge, "440 6 Barrel" for Plymouth) and 390 (385 in '71)  hp (291 kW) with three two barrel Holley carburetors. However these performance ratings are severely lowered. Some say the reason was for insurance purposes, in any case the 440 "Six Pack" became the second fastest muscle car engine in the 1969 1/2 Roadrunner. It ran 12.7 in the 1/4 mile on Goodyear Polyglas tires and 4.10 gear ratio. Modern engine dynos of the 440 "Six Pack" and the 413 and 426 Max Wedge engines have shown the 440 "Six Pack" to make 505 horsepower and 495 foot pounds of torque, the 413 making 490 horsepower and 526 foot pounds of torque, and the 426 making 522 horsepower and 501 foot pounds of torque. Only the 1968 Dodge Dart 426 Hemi A990 (10.80 1/4mile time) and the 1968 Plymouth Barracuda 426 Hemi (10.60 1/4mile time) were quicker.


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Re: Beautiful Day To D A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 01:42:30 AM »
my 70 galaxie with a 429 auto was hairy with non vacuum assist  drumsall around, cant imagine driving that monster with em Bill  :D

LMAO...that brought back memories....

Had a 64' with a 390.......at 120 mph the drums would slow you to about 30 in a panic stop...then ya kinda coasted.


if i went over 125 or so and tried to panic stop i'd get it back down to around 50 then the pedal just dropped to the floor. i love the smell of boiling brake fluid  ; m

            I can well imagine THAT. Thing is, I can't afford to jump up and go the full route just yet and am trying to keep this car basic for now, at least. Hopefully, I won't be doing that kind speed (as I'd be picked up by the "Blue Light Special", knowing my luck) ::)
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 01:49:27 AM »
Oooh, nice reading...

The 440 was produced from 1966 until 1978, making it the last version of the Chrysler RB block. It had a cast iron block with iron heads and a bore of 4.32 inches (109.73 mm).

From 1967 to 1971 the high performance version was rated at 375 (370 in '71) SAE gross bhp (280 kW) at 4700 rpm with a single four barrel carburetor, and from 1969 to 1971, the highest output version had a 3-2 bbl. intake setup ("440 Six Pack" for Dodge, "440 6 Barrel" for Plymouth) and 390 (385 in '71)  hp (291 kW) with three two barrel Holley carburetors. However these performance ratings are severely lowered. Some say the reason was for insurance purposes, in any case the 440 "Six Pack" became the second fastest muscle car engine in the 1969 1/2 Roadrunner. It ran 12.7 in the 1/4 mile on Goodyear Polyglas tires and 4.10 gear ratio. Modern engine dynos of the 440 "Six Pack" and the 413 and 426 Max Wedge engines have shown the 440 "Six Pack" to make 505 horsepower and 495 foot pounds of torque, the 413 making 490 horsepower and 526 foot pounds of torque, and the 426 making 522 horsepower and 501 foot pounds of torque. Only the 1968 Dodge Dart 426 Hemi A990 (10.80 1/4mile time) and the 1968 Plymouth Barracuda 426 Hemi (10.60 1/4mile time) were quicker.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_RB_engine

            Appreciate the history there twostroke, I knew most of that myself but, it was nice to be reminded. Only OLD RB that I've never seen is the 383 version. Had several of the later 383s though and THEY were pretty good runners. THIS 440 is pepped up a little and really draws attention when I pull up to the stoplight, letting it sit there and lope! 8)

           Always wanted to drive one of the old factory "Hemi" cars, but to be able to get behind the wheel of a "MAX WEDGE" car (in MY book) would be the TOPS! ;)
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Re: Beautiful Day To Do A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 03:56:18 AM »

   Anyway, back to the problem at hand:

 Pretty good, I've done most all of my own repairs on my cars for years (even though, as the years have gone by, there has been less and less that I COULD do) and yet, I've never had to replace the metal rear brake lines, til now. So, I though, okay, I'll just get a pair, bend to fit and get on with it. Now, after I got the lines, I am looking at the old ones that I have to make close copies of and this is looking intimidating to me. ::) I don't know if it's because all I can seem to think about is all that is going on in my life or what! Surely , all I need to do is to focus on what I'm doing and I can get past this. I like to never have gotten those old lines off of the car. The P.O. had the outside of the car and under the hood, looking pretty good, while the underneath, looked like crap! After doing battle to get the lines off, my left arm looks like a "Self Sacrifice" from coming in contact with the edges of the gas tank seam. If nothing else, I'm going to get me some small hose, slice it down one side and put it over that seam. I don't need to "Donate Blood" that way! ::) And, Thank God for Arthritis Tylenol! My 63yr old body feels like 93, after getting down on the driveway, rolling around and with all of the getting up and down and such. :-\  THEN, I've still got to do the front,  adjust all 4 wheels, replace the master cylinder and bleed it all out! The weather isn't cooperating very well either, dodging rain, wind and occasional thunderstorms. ::)    

  BTW, when I got into the rear brakes, I found that the self adjuster setup was inplace on the right rear wheel, but missing on the left! ::)
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Re: Beautiful Day To Do A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 04:14:03 AM »
had a 67 barracuda with manual drum brakes all around
went through deep water then tried to stop
forgot how bad drum brakes worked when wet
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 04:59:30 AM »
had a 67 barracuda with manual drum brakes all around
went through deep water then tried to stop
forgot how bad drum brakes worked when wet
took an hour to pry my butt cheek's off the seat

        I can well imagine THAT! There's just so much difference in the brake systems of today as well. I get into my 06' Dodge Minivan and I've got 4wheel disc with ABS and it's already saved my Butt several times. Then, now days, I get into the GTX and find out REAL Quickly how primitive the OLD brakes are. :-\ I MAY end up upgrading the GTX as time goes on. But, that's some pretty good bucks though.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 05:40:35 AM »
Good lord Bill get a front disc conversion...

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For Lord's sake yes Bill. I thought you were doing the rear drums. Here's Richard Erhenberg's Mopar Action cop brake swap. I've got this done on three B bodys I drive and wouldn't leave home without it. It uses the 11.75 inch unicast cop rotors and the big piston calipers. I took the garbage 4 piston Bendix junk off my Charger to swap these on. And the Bee and runner both had the same drum setup you have. Unless you drive it like a Shriner, get the discs up here.

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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 08:18:31 AM »
Good lord Bill get a front disc conversion...

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For Lord's sake yes Bill. I thought you were doing the rear drums. Here's Richard Erhenberg's Mopar Action cop brake swap. I've got this done on three B bodys I drive and wouldn't leave home without it. It uses the 11.75 inch unicast cop rotors and the big piston calipers. I took the garbage 4 piston Bendix junk off my Charger to swap these on. And the Bee and runner both had the same drum setup you have. Unless you drive it like a Shriner, get the discs up here.

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           I started out on the rear, but it still has the drums on the front too. I've seen a few front conversions on ebay AND at different websites as well. I'd considered the change, just never went past that.  Not planning on driving it like a shriner either. Like to make that 440 sound off too much! I'll check it out.   Thanks, Bill
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Re: Beautiful Day To Do A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2010, 09:41:05 AM »
Last time I checked Bill, disc brakes don't make you go faster.  Ha ha, just trying to help out.

Maybe if they went back to drums, people would stop tailgaiting.  Remember those days?
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2010, 10:54:20 AM »
Oooh, nice reading...

The 440 was produced from 1966 until 1978, making it the last version of the Chrysler RB block. It had a cast iron block with iron heads and a bore of 4.32 inches (109.73 mm).

From 1967 to 1971 the high performance version was rated at 375 (370 in '71) SAE gross bhp (280 kW) at 4700 rpm with a single four barrel carburetor, and from 1969 to 1971, the highest output version had a 3-2 bbl. intake setup ("440 Six Pack" for Dodge, "440 6 Barrel" for Plymouth) and 390 (385 in '71)  hp (291 kW) with three two barrel Holley carburetors. However these performance ratings are severely lowered. Some say the reason was for insurance purposes, in any case the 440 "Six Pack" became the second fastest muscle car engine in the 1969 1/2 Roadrunner. It ran 12.7 in the 1/4 mile on Goodyear Polyglas tires and 4.10 gear ratio. Modern engine dynos of the 440 "Six Pack" and the 413 and 426 Max Wedge engines have shown the 440 "Six Pack" to make 505 horsepower and 495 foot pounds of torque, the 413 making 490 horsepower and 526 foot pounds of torque, and the 426 making 522 horsepower and 501 foot pounds of torque. Only the 1968 Dodge Dart 426 Hemi A990 (10.80 1/4mile time) and the 1968 Plymouth Barracuda 426 Hemi (10.60 1/4mile time) were quicker.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_RB_engine

            Appreciate the history there twostroke, I knew most of that myself but, it was nice to be reminded. Only OLD RB that I've never seen is the 383 version. Had several of the later 383s though and THEY were pretty good runners. THIS 440 is pepped up a little and really draws attention when I pull up to the stoplight, letting it sit there and lope! 8)

           Always wanted to drive one of the old factory "Hemi" cars, but to be able to get behind the wheel of a "MAX WEDGE" car (in MY book) would be the TOPS! ;)
This post brings back memories of me working at Chrysler Trenton Engine plant from 68-71.  I worked in the machining area.  Worked on Hemi pistons, rods and cylinder heads.  Low production on the heads, as no mistakes allowed.  Used to see the hi-po engines sitting on flat carts as warranty returns.  Holes blown through the sides where the rods exited.  Would have loved to hear the stories as to why the motor let go. 

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2010, 12:15:12 PM »
Last time I checked Bill, disc brakes don't make you go faster.  Ha ha, just trying to help out.

Maybe if they went back to drums, people would stop tailgaiting.  Remember those days?

  Yeah, I use the trans to slow up some, IF I have the time. I definitely remember the days of "ALL DRUM Brake Cars"! ::)
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2010, 12:18:44 PM »
Oooh, nice reading...

The 440 was produced from 1966 until 1978, making it the last version of the Chrysler RB block. It had a cast iron block with iron heads and a bore of 4.32 inches (109.73 mm).

From 1967 to 1971 the high performance version was rated at 375 (370 in '71) SAE gross bhp (280 kW) at 4700 rpm with a single four barrel carburetor, and from 1969 to 1971, the highest output version had a 3-2 bbl. intake setup ("440 Six Pack" for Dodge, "440 6 Barrel" for Plymouth) and 390 (385 in '71)  hp (291 kW) with three two barrel Holley carburetors. However these performance ratings are severely lowered. Some say the reason was for insurance purposes, in any case the 440 "Six Pack" became the second fastest muscle car engine in the 1969 1/2 Roadrunner. It ran 12.7 in the 1/4 mile on Goodyear Polyglas tires and 4.10 gear ratio. Modern engine dynos of the 440 "Six Pack" and the 413 and 426 Max Wedge engines have shown the 440 "Six Pack" to make 505 horsepower and 495 foot pounds of torque, the 413 making 490 horsepower and 526 foot pounds of torque, and the 426 making 522 horsepower and 501 foot pounds of torque. Only the 1968 Dodge Dart 426 Hemi A990 (10.80 1/4mile time) and the 1968 Plymouth Barracuda 426 Hemi (10.60 1/4mile time) were quicker.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_RB_engine

            Appreciate the history there twostroke, I knew most of that myself but, it was nice to be reminded. Only OLD RB that I've never seen is the 383 version. Had several of the later 383s though and THEY were pretty good runners. THIS 440 is pepped up a little and really draws attention when I pull up to the stoplight, letting it sit there and lope! 8)

           Always wanted to drive one of the old factory "Hemi" cars, but to be able to get behind the wheel of a "MAX WEDGE" car (in MY book) would be the TOPS! ;)
This post brings back memories of me working at Chrysler Trenton Engine plant from 68-71.  I worked in the machining area.  Worked on Hemi pistons, rods and cylinder heads.  Low production on the heads, as no mistakes allowed.  Used to see the hi-po engines sitting on flat carts as warranty returns.  Holes blown through the sides where the rods exited.  Would have loved to hear the stories as to why the motor let go. 

   Would be interesting to know!
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2010, 12:35:26 PM »
in my top 5 dream cars, 3 are ford, 1 is ferrari, the other? 64 belvedere with the hemi/4speed, cop car wheels/hubcaps and the redline tires, black with red interior of course.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2010, 01:55:54 PM »
  Holes blown through the sides where the rods exited.  Would have loved to hear the stories as to why the motor let go. 

The first was wanting to see a 340/833/3.91 1970 Challenger see 110 mph in third gear. There's no way it can be done and after what seemed like forever the poor old 340 displayed its innards all over the road. There was a rod out either side of the block and under the intake were 8 or so lifters and pieces of pushrods all over the valley.
 The thing here was that I had a build 440 6 pack waiting at home to go in the Challenger. The demise of the 340 gave me good reason to do the swap. Shame as it was a good working 340. But then I always thought the 340 should have been A body only. Never in big bloated B or E bodies.

Had a hemi in a 1968 Coronet drop an intake valve. That made quite a mess. I still have the piston with its dome unceremoniously smashed off on display in my rec room.

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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2010, 03:00:20 PM »
I MAY end up upgrading the GTX as time goes on. But, that's some pretty good bucks though.

Hey Bill, you gotta have more whoa than go, and there's a lot of go in that car of yours.  I converted my '65 F250 and '68 Nova over to disc brakes and I know they have saved my butt more than once.  More than paid for themselves, as it was the difference between nuthin' happnin' and disaster.  You might check these guys out -

http://www.ecihotrodbrakes.com/dodge_plymouth_discbrake_conversions.html
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Re: Beautiful Day To D A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2010, 03:51:03 PM »
  Holes blown through the sides where the rods exited.  Would have loved to hear the stories as to why the motor let go. 

The first was wanting to see a 340/833/3.91 1970 Challenger see 110 mph in third gear. There's no way it can be done and after what seemed like forever the poor old 340 displayed its innards all over the road. There was a rod out either side of the block and under the intake were 8 or so lifters and pieces of pushrods all over the valley.
 The thing here was that I had a build 440 6 pack waiting at home to go in the Challenger. The demise of the 340 gave me good reason to do the swap. Shame as it was a good working 340. But then I always thought the 340 should have been A body only. Never in big bloated B or E bodies.

Had a hemi in a 1968 Coronet drop an intake valve. That made quite a mess. I still have the piston with its dome unceremoniously smashed off on display in my rec room.
I don't know if 110 mph in 3rd gear would qualify a person to get a new engine replaced for free from the factory warranty.  I imagine there were quite a few creative stories told.  The carnage I saw was unreal, but interesting.

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Re: Beautiful Day To D A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2010, 04:47:46 PM »
I don't know if 110 mph in 3rd gear would qualify a person to get a new engine replaced for free from the factory warranty.  I imagine there were quite a few creative stories told.  The carnage I saw was unreal, but interesting.


The car was well well off any factory warranty by then. The 340 was intentionally destroyed to make room for the 440. It was just giggles and #$%*s to see the abuse the 340 could take. I always had the utmost respect for a 340 in an A body, anything else - nope.

A buddy just picked up a 1969 383/833/3.91 road runner on a Friday afternoon from the dealer. There were 5 of us in it at around 7 pm that night. At a red light and he wanted to make a left. He left the light at near redline and made most of the turn, grabbed second gear real hard and the rear of the car left the road and found a lamp pole real hard. That car didn't need a throttle, an on and off switch would have been easier. He was on that poor 383 like stink was on a skunk. The 383 lasted less than 5 days with Gary - and you know how tuff the 383 was. We put a built 440 in it (the dealer laughed off any warranty claim he made) and amazingly that lasted him. That car changed hands many times and was lost to us for 20 years plus. I picked it up off some kid within 5 miles of me about 15 years ago.. Still had the stove in quarter panel from the lamp pole and a kink in the firewall where the 383 fell off a block and tackle when we were hoisting it out. Well all the panels were shot, but those two war wounds certainly identified it for me.

It now has a 440 with 4.15 crank, 0.030 over Ross pistons, home ported 452s 2.14,1.81, 292/509 cam hogged 6 bbl, 18 spline 833 3.91 8 3/4... Dana's just too expensive and heavy. Got tons of 8 3/4s but their tuff buggers. Haven't lost one yet. Oh and all new panels, inner aprons, firewall and rad support. Those missing years were real hard on her - body wise anyway.


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Re: Beautiful Day To D A Brake Job On The GTX, then.......
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2010, 06:01:20 PM »
I don't know if 110 mph in 3rd gear would qualify a person to get a new engine replaced for free from the factory warranty.  I imagine there were quite a few creative stories told.  The carnage I saw was unreal, but interesting.


The car was well well off any factory warranty by then. The 340 was intentionally destroyed to make room for the 440. It was just giggles and #$%*s to see the abuse the 340 could take. I always had the utmost respect for a 340 in an A body, anything else - nope.

A buddy just picked up a 1969 383/833/3.91 road runner on a Friday afternoon from the dealer. There were 5 of us in it at around 7 pm that night. At a red light and he wanted to make a left. He left the light at near redline and made most of the turn, grabbed second gear real hard and the rear of the car left the road and found a lamp pole real hard. That car didn't need a throttle, an on and off switch would have been easier. He was on that poor 383 like stink was on a skunk. The 383 lasted less than 5 days with Gary - and you know how tuff the 383 was. We put a built 440 in it (the dealer laughed off any warranty claim he made) and amazingly that lasted him. That car changed hands many times and was lost to us for 20 years plus. I picked it up off some kid within 5 miles of me about 15 years ago.. Still had the stove in quarter panel from the lamp pole and a kink in the firewall where the 383 fell off a block and tackle when we were hoisting it out. Well all the panels were shot, but those two war wounds certainly identified it for me.

It now has a 440 with 4.15 crank, 0.030 over Ross pistons, home ported 452s 2.14,1.81, 292/509 cam hogged 6 bbl, 18 spline 833 3.91 8 3/4... Dana's just too expensive and heavy. Got tons of 8 3/4s but their tuff buggers. Haven't lost one yet. Oh and all new panels, inner aprons, firewall and rad support. Those missing years were real hard on her - body wise anyway.




        That's the CAR?  ???  Whoa! :o  Fine job on THAT one Mike! 8) ;)

        Always had a thing for the '69 runners and SOMETIMES, I forget that I NOW have a GTX and call it a road runner (or bird). ::) ;)
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       Well, I had crippled the GTX home last Wednesday because of noisr from the right rear of the car. GOt it up in the air on ramps and stands, don't hear OR feel anything. But, I'm sure it's the right rear axle bearing. Went to O'Reilly's and got the bearings (surprised that they had the bearings too!

       Well, I finally got the opportunity to tear into the rear end of the GTX. It's been up in the air for a few days now and I pulled the right axle first, since THAT'S where the noise seemed to come from. So, I managed to get out there today and pull the right axle and, sure enough the axle bearing was in the process of coming apart. The bearing cage was breaking up and working it's way out of the inside of the bearing and the rollers were very loose with out the cage being where it should have been. It didn't take much of a look to tell that I had been given the wrong bearings. Just got off of the phone with a guy in Alma Arkansas (who I had met online on ebay and was given the proper part number and some good info. He reminded me about the procedure to remove the bearing from the axle and I was thinking I knew it and I was right on. You had to grind a notch in the inner bearing race, remove the rollers and the outer race, then you have to split the inner race and remove it from the axle. So, of course the parts aren't there and had to be ordered and will be in in the morning. But, they will be in route. ;) Sure does feel good to be able to go into something on a car, without it being a major operation. ;D   
   
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