Author Topic: More wintergreen blues (Read 3677 times)

faux fiddy · « **on:** September 08, 2010, 07:47:25 am »

At $10.75 for a ounce of the stuff at a health food store, I have at least found a local supply but will wait on mail order instead.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=62328.25

I've read the previous threads, but have not seen any of the 350f head to carb insulators being dipped in this rubber restore. It appears that the pics of the 750 carb insulators have no metal component to them. (Is this correct?)

The 350f's carb insulators have a metal flange on them with bolt holes.

Questions are:

Is there any metal component to the 750/550 carb insulators people have "dipped," and was there any problems with the metal separating?

Has anyone used this wintergreen/xylene treatment on this 350f part, and was it successful??

Is there danger that it will expand and cause the rubber and metal flange to come apart?

Is gel super glue the best thing to re-attach them if they do come apart or is epoxy or some other adhesive better?

Thanks~

ekpent · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2010, 07:52:57 am »

No metal in the 750's

bollingball · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2010, 07:54:32 am »

My 750K8 are just rubber the clamps are metal but they come off.

zzpete · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2010, 07:56:31 am »

The CB750 have no metal component. That is correct.
If the insulators are shot anyway I'd give it a try and if there is any separation I would use an epoxy.
I buy wintergreen by the quart online.
http://www.hdmworld.com/tirepreps.htm

faux fiddy · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2010, 08:05:17 am »

Thanks, y'all.

Crook County- That's hilarious! I was traveling and was actually downtown the day the holdout juror finally agreed that Blago lied to a Federal Agent for one count guilty. Lots of TV vans there at the courhouse. 'Been following that one since before the arrest.

Can't wait to get up ther again. Millenium Park (or pork, as I called ) is actually quite nice.

zzpete · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2010, 08:15:18 am »

Quote from: poor boi on September 08, 2010, 08:05:17 am

Thanks, y'all.

Crook County- That's hilarious! I was traveling and was actually downtown the day the holdout juror finally agreed that Blago lied to a Federal Agent for one count guilty. Lots of TV vans there at the courhouse. 'Been following that one since before the arrest.

Can't wait to get up ther again. Millenium Park (or pork, as I called ) is actually quite nice.

Mayor Daly just announced he is not seeking another term. WHAT ARE MY BIDS

faux fiddy · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2010, 08:27:41 am »

Go for it, zz! It's the year for upstarts and Rahm is a fowl mobster. Someone needs to suprise these political shoe-ins!

Almost all my relatives come from Chicago, Dad's sister lived a few houses down from Dailey Sr., right by Commiski (sic) park. I think I might have been there when he died.

zzpete · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2010, 08:33:46 am »

Wait we're turning this into a political thread AHHHHHH! Its going to be a real circus watching these clowns trying to get the nomination!

faux fiddy · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2010, 09:06:11 am »

2010 politics...I think we've figured out the inmates have long since taken over the asylum.

I had to deal with politicians and courts and crooked unions- about all the same. Any of them seem sociopath. The 'Fargo' car salesman character trying to upsell the truecoat is what they all remind me of.

I asked the Ninth Circuit to do a grand Jury deal in Alaska. 10 months later sh8 hit the fan for some of those guys. What a coincidence. HA HA..

When the news came out they (FBI) were looking for hats with CBC embroidery (corrupt bastard club) I had to sart a wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_political_corruption_probe

Like much government work, the job was left only half done.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2010, 10:39:20 pm »

Bump- 350 rubbers?

cb350twin · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2010, 11:24:43 pm »

Back to subject: I called Walgreen's pharmacy and none of the pharmacists or store people herd of it after getting transferred like 5 times. Then I went to CVS pharmacy and there was a young cute pharmacist my age that knew exactly what it was. It was behind pharmacist counter no prescription required. She only had one 1oz bottle but ordered 3 more for me which will be there tomorrow. She said the only reason it was behind the counter was because they don't sell a lot of it. It was $2.49 a 1oz bottle

faux fiddy · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2010, 11:37:37 pm »

a young cute pharmacist my age

Girl with a good job, BONUS!

I did Walgreens, their guy said yeah, it's right here...Oh, we sent it back because we didn't sell it. (?)!

I guess I'll look a little harder, but the one CVS I called didn't have it. Sounds like the right price, thanks.

cb350twin · « **Reply #12 on:** September 09, 2010, 12:00:04 am »

If you pester then enough, I would think they would be able order for you and it would be in the next day. OR you could just fine a cute pharmacist.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2011, 02:21:22 am »

The 350 project has moved forward by a small amount and I have an answer for this thread I started.

Not sure what the walgreen's special order cost exactly but I think 2 two ounce bottles cost about $15 with tax.

I had goof off brand xylene in an aerosol can so that is what I used.

I put all of the rubber off two manifolds, carb sets, plenum and air/ battery box. I used a ziplock bag and sprayed each part with zylene as I put it in the bag. I then used a windex type sprayer to spray each part again with wintergreen oil, and the overspray again going into the bag and over the other parts.

I had a pot of water heated up and boiling on the electric kitchen stove and ready to put on the gas grill outside.

When I was done spraying each part the bag went into the boil for about 2-3 hours. Of course the bag failed, but for a bit they soaked in the concentrated solutions.

I ended up with about half a gallon of rubber parts soup spiced with wintergreen. Had no big worries about the flames near the xylene with this ziplock bag method either.

The rubber came out considerably softer, and to answer my original question it appears that it has no affect on the adhesion of the rubber manifold to the aluminum flange that bolts to the head.

Kong · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2011, 04:13:53 am »

"Had no big worries about the flames near the xylene with this ziplock bag method either."

Are you crazy?

There is no reason at all to heat the stuff and it is extremely dangerous to put it on any heat source; it says so all over the can in great big letters for anyone to read. You're lucky you didn't make the 6-O'clock news where the blond-haired chick giggles when she tells the world you burned your house down.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2011, 04:26:57 am »

Quote from: Kong on January 19, 2011, 04:13:53 am

"Had no big worries about the flames near the xylene with this ziplock bag method either."

Are you crazy?

There is no reason at all to heat the stuff and it is extremely dangerous to put it on any heat source; it says so all over the can in great big letters for anyone to read. You're lucky you didn't make the 6-O'clock news where the blond-haired chick giggles when she tells the world you burned your house down.

Some of us are dare-devils. And lots of threads said to use heat.

The rubbers on the plenum were too hard to get loose without dipping in a [straight water] boil, too, so since it was there and hot...

All of the spraying was into the bag and done quite a distance from any open flame, then it was submerged, and then diluted when the bag broke so it wasn't too big a deal. I might have used about 3 fl oz. of xylene total. No more flamable than the gas grille propane.

But to answer your question,yeah, I can get pretty crazy.

Kong · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2011, 05:11:03 am »

Yeah, I understand, I do some nuts stuff now and then too. I once hit on this sweet little baboon while her Grey-back old man was swinging in a tree just two or three vine-swings away. You think that won't squeeze a banana out the old poop-shoot when you get caught?

When I did the boots for my 550 I used about a half a gallon of Xylene mixed with two oz. of the oil. I just put it in a gallon metal can (you can buy empty paint cans with lids cheap) and let the stuff sit over night (temperatures near freezing at the time). Next morning the boots were like new and are still nice and flexible weeks later.

Really? · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2011, 05:19:49 am »

30 minutes max, wintergreen only and simmer not boil. You can put the bowl hoses in there too but with a shorter time. Mine came out perfect.

Ok, I take the perfect back but damn close, lol. The carb boots also swelled longways a bit. Made the breadbox a little tight to get back on via the bolts and stuffing it in but doable.

Been a few weeks now and the garage still smells nice.

Nikkisixx · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2011, 05:46:52 am »

Yeah, I wasn't sure about boiling it either. I just put a can of the mixture on the radiator heater in the garage. But I like the dare devil nature of your project.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2011, 06:34:47 am »

No half gallon of xylene here, just a half a spray can full of goof off brand name zylene.

I guess it was enough to make a functional redneck flamethrower.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/11/19/79141/redneck-flamethrower-incident.html

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