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The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« on: March 15, 2006, 03:42:21 AM »
Check this men, one man's dream, and I gotta say it looks pretty sweet, in a retro kind of way, any of you bazillionaires out there got a lazy 20K that you could loan a poor little boy in 3rd world Oz? Check it out! Cheers, Terry. ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CB-1971-CB-750-CR-750-CAFE-RACER-ROADRACE-DICK-MANN_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80647QQitemZ4621846010QQrdZ1
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2006, 06:29:09 AM »

   Terry,   
                     Talk about taking your breath, that is some fantastic bike!! I don't even want to know how much is invested in that bike. One thing I would like to know, He said it was registered for the street. They must have different requirements for street. I can't even imagine riding that bike out in traffic on the street, track or anywhere. And that definitely would not be a loaner! Glad you brought our attention to that one but, like you, I can only look and drool> Later on, Bill
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2006, 07:19:31 AM »
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..any of you bazillionaires out there got a lazy 20K that you could loan a poor little boy in 3rd world Oz?

Sure thing, where should I send the check?  ;D
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2006, 11:26:13 AM »
bill,he lives in montana.you can pretty much do what you want out there.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2006, 11:46:34 AM »
 I already posted that. Must be the Jack. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2006, 01:17:02 PM »
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..any of you bazillionaires out there got a lazy 20K that you could loan a poor little boy in 3rd world Oz?

Sure thing, where should I send the check?  ;D

Hey Thanks Bob, well it's a "pickup only" deal, so I'll have to fly out to Montana anyway, so I tell ya what, I'll drop around to your place first to pick up the check, that'll save you the effort of posting it? Got any daughters mate? I think I need you for a father-in-law! Cheers, "Sonny Boy" ;D
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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2006, 01:26:09 PM »
i hate that... you think your bike is lookin great... then...... wow... :o
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2006, 01:47:46 PM »
i hate that... you think your bike is lookin great... then...... wow... :o

Don't sweat it Bud, we never thought your bike looked that good anyway................ ;) So long, Enis, North Dakota. ;)

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2006, 03:05:22 PM »
Check this men, one man's dream, and I gotta say it looks pretty sweet, in a retro kind of way, any of you bazillionaires out there got a lazy 20K that you could loan a poor little boy in 3rd world Oz? Check it out! Cheers, Terry. ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CB-1971-CB-750-CR-750-CAFE-RACER-ROADRACE-DICK-MANN_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80647QQitemZ4621846010QQrdZ1

Hey, that's pretty nice, though for half that price I'd let you have this

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2006, 06:29:52 PM »

Hey, that's pretty nice, though for half that price I'd let you have this

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1095215/Seeley2.jpg

Thets a bit spendy bud, it aint even oridginal? I do like them Yamaha wheels tho, reminds me of thet ol RD400 I had many years ago, fine machine too, for shore! So Long, Enis in North Dakota. ;)

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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2006, 07:03:48 PM »
Hey Terry, stick with riding mowers- they're alot cheaper!   ;D  Hey, is your grass growing yet?  Or is it all sand down there?!?

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2006, 09:13:01 PM »
Hey Terry, stick with riding mowers- they're alot cheaper!   ;D  Hey, is your grass growing yet?  Or is it all sand down there?!?

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G'Day Strokey, well we had some rain today, and it's nice and warm again now, so hopefully next time I mow, there'll be more than just dust and dog #$%* billowing out from under the old cox tractor, ha ha! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2006, 06:07:00 PM »
Uh oh, thread hijack!  Terry, It's rained alot here too and I got my gravely roller stuck in the quickmud in the side yard on sunday.  Buried it right up to the axles!!    ::)
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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2006, 06:39:22 PM »
Well it is cold and dry here in NY. Now that we all know our weather conditions. That is some wild ass bike, and I admire the effort. I wish I had the 89hp at the wheel on my plain old 78K.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2006, 01:21:32 AM »
Uh oh, thread hijack! Terry, It's rained alot here too and I got my gravely roller stuck in the quickmud in the side yard on sunday. Buried it right up to the axles!! ::)

That's ok Strokey, I started the thread, so we can hijack it as much as we want, ha ha! Did you get that tractor out again?  ;D

Well it is cold and dry here in NY. Now that we all know our weather conditions. That is some wild ass bike, and I admire the effort. I wish I had the 89hp at the wheel on my plain old 78K.

Looks like you need an appointment with Mike Rieck Bobby, he can turn your old tourer into a fire breathing beastie!  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2006, 04:03:21 AM »

                When I see a bike like that in a museum, I just look and try to hide the drool. I can't even
      imagine being able to go into my garage, shop or whatever and just really look it over. And to be
      able to ride it would be an awesome and yet nervous experience. I have always admired the
      Honda factory racers and tried to imagine what it sounded like when Mike Hailwood sailed around
      the track on his 6 cylinder machine. Wasn't it a 250cc, I don't remember for sure. Later on, Bill
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2006, 09:44:05 AM »
Funny you should say that Mate. I just bought some carb boots from Mike. I think he and I need a good yak.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2006, 05:50:59 PM »
Yeah, Terry, I got it out, but not before I tore the yard up!  450 pound roller and 450 pound tractor... Whew, I was pooped!   ;D
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2006, 08:42:12 PM »
Freaking sweet Scoot.  What is even more funny is I got my seat for my ride from the same seller.  Small world.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2006, 02:38:01 AM »
Guess I'll go against the grain by registering my "disproval". I love the look of the CR750, but I think it's ruined by the modern wheels, front end, etc.

Moreover, I'm not sure I'd believe that anything based on the CB750 can make 89 horsepower for more than a few dozen hours between teardowns. It may be street legal, but I'd wager the new owner will be pushing it home within a week.

For that much money, I'd just have m3racing build me a factory CR and call it a day.

Or maybe even get my CB500 to carburete properly!  :D
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2006, 12:27:58 PM »
I agree about the modern front end etc, it doesn't suit the bike.  Meanwhile, a CR750 appears for sale....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-cr750-Racer-1968-Genuine-not-replica_W0QQitemZ4624101884QQcategoryZ9806QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It would be nice to see some pics, and even nicer to have the £s available

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2006, 01:01:17 PM »

          I know what you guys are saying about the newer components on it but, there are possibly those out there who are feeling the same way when they see a CB750 or any other SOHC4 that has been modernized, do you think? I don't know for sure but, I figure that, if that bike was made to use, they probably did a pretty good number on the engine. I can't  imagine sinking a load of money into an old bike and not beefing the engine as well, especially with today's technology. In a way, I'd like to take it for a few careful laps around a track and in a way, I'd be concerned about wrecking it.
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2006, 01:56:57 PM »
I don't know. Whatever floats one's boat, I suppose. I mean, I'm not angry that the guy put modern stuff on his bike or anything. It doesn't offend me. I just wouldn't -- with a few, mostly electrical, exceptions -- do it myself.

I think old bikes are cool in large part because they're old bikes. They're simple, they look -- or can be made to look -- cool, and for the most part, they're cheap.

But the plain fact is that compared to modern sportbikes, they're lousy performers, at least by any measurable standard. We can do plenty to improve that performance, especially where suspension and tires are concerned, but at some point I start to lose the thread. You can put on some stickier Avons, maybe have Works go over your forks and send out some rear shocks, but when you start thinking about bolting on an Ohlins inverted front setup with Dymags and 190 Pilot Powers, or grafting on the rear end from a ZRX1100, well, why? You could just buy a CBR600RR and be done with it.

I have to wonder what the owner of the "CR750" in the title photo was thinking. I mean, it's a 30 year old SOHC bike. It's not EVER going to perform to the level of a modern sportbike, regardless of how much money you throw at it. It's ungodly expensive, it's going to have questionable reliability, it looks -- to me, anyway -- a bit silly, and it's STILL not going to go as well as a $7,000 street bike from the local dealer.

Like I said, each to his own, but I still don't get it.

But then, I don't "get" $70,000 custom choppers either, and they sell like hotcakes, so I'm apparently not the guy who should be dictating what's cool and what's not!  :D
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2006, 05:13:12 PM »
Because, Noel, when you're out riding, NOBODY else will have one.
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2006, 07:59:20 PM »
You know Noel,
               I understand where you're coming from on this issue. Myself, I figure that these older bikes, no matter what you do to them, have character and a history behind them. Whether you're talking Sportbike or bikes like the Ultra expensive chopper, they are out there because someone spent Buck$
to get it. Those choppers are built out of a bunch of high dollar components and the only Brand they are tied to is whatever engine happens to be in it. Then again, when you see a SOHC4 Honda out there, you can know that it has a history behind it and someone has put a lot of thought and work into it. You might have a restoration, a mild custom, a wild custom, a cafe racer, the choices are endless. You might want the factory racing look with vintage components or updated components.
 Fact is it's yours and it had a beginningsome odd years ago. It didn't come from a bunch of parts on a shelflast week or whenever. As far sportbikes, they are slick looking and all but, to me they are road racers with lights. More power to those who like them, I don't but, I won't be rude to those who ride the other bikes and I hope they'll be nice to me Later on, Bill
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2006, 08:45:10 PM »
Well, Bill, when you're right you're right. The plain fact is that I just like motorcycles. "If it's got two wheels and a motor" etc, etc.

So if it seems like I'm being harsh on the "CR750", I'm not really trying to be. Like I said, I just don't "get" it, but most of you here seem to, so I guess I should shut my face hole.  :D




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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2006, 08:47:52 PM »
Oh, and twostrokecrazy: I once owned a "euro only" Suzuki 250 with a 4" over front end, naugahide saddlebags, and a two foot wide roller on the back for pacing bicyclists.

No one else had one of those, either, and that's not bragging. As soon as I could manage it, I didn't have one either!  :D
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2006, 05:41:22 PM »
That's right, Noel, dare to be different!   ;D
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2006, 12:43:37 AM »
Well, Bill, when you're right you're right. The plain fact is that I just like motorcycles. "If it's got two wheels and a motor" etc, etc.

So if it seems like I'm being harsh on the "CR750", I'm not really trying to be. Like I said, I just don't "get" it, but most of you here seem to, so I guess I should shut my face hole.  :D

Ha ha, "shut yer face hole", Noel! Just taking the piss mate, but geez, you really DONT get it, do you? It's a "retro" CR750 rep mate, maintaining the original look and theme, but with some beautifully engineered modern components.

I will one day build a modern "Triton" (Triumph engine in Norton featherbed frame) using a new Hinkley produced "Bonny" engine in a repro (McIntosh, probably) frame, but with modern components and brakes, it'll maintain the theme to the point where old farts will come up and say "I used to have one of them", when of course, my bike was never around when they were riding the original "Tritons" back in the 1960's.

As far as a CB750 not being able to reliably handle 89 RW HP, Rex Wolfendon here in Oz builds CB750  based engines of up to 1200CC, that reliably produce in excess of 140 BHP! Talk to Mike Rieck in Boston Noel, he can do similar things for you! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2006, 02:08:38 AM »
A karma point for Noel. I know what he means.

If you want performance, you can buy a modern sportbike. If you want originality, only an original CR750 can do. If it's a replica it's a replica. The CR750 was so one of a kind that if it's not the real McCoy, it really doesn't matter whether it's capable of 89 HP or 150 HP.

If I wanted a replica, it would be for the looks, so I wouldn't really care much about the performance. The more money you put on ot the more expensive it gets to the point of becoming senseless.

Take, for example the Porsche 356. I would have one anytime, but they are scarce and expensive. And its performance cannot be compared to any modern roadster. So I would have no trouble buying a UK-made replica, with a VW beetle engine. I want it for the looks, not for the performance. Any untrained eye would be able to tell it from a real 356, but I wouldn't mind because I was not intending to fool anyone.

Building a Triton sounds like a cool idea. BTW, have you seen the modern Norton built in US? They have all the modern performance with a hint of that classic look. Terry, I recall the McCandless brothers (or at least one of them) is still alive. Would he be able to tell a modern Featherbed frame -with those state-of-the-art welding and tube bending- from an old one?

Also, there is some people rebadging Urals and selling them as classic BMW's. Though the technology is the same, it's not the same bike for obvious reasons.

getting back to the CR750 subject, I could make my own replica anytime if it is just that I want to customize my bike to my liking -like if I make a cafe or a bobber- but there is a point of no return when either the bike style becomes so personal, or the money you spend becomes so high, that nobody else will be willing to pay what you have put on it. You say modern choppers are selling like hotcakes. Somebody spend 70.000 bucks on a chopper adapted to his height, and with a colour scheme of his liking. One year later he becomes bored and sells it for 60.000 grand because "the bike is almost new". So what? What if I have a different height or just a different style? You are asking me to pay 60.000 grand for a bike YOU chose? No thanks, I rather pay 70.000 and choose one myself.

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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2006, 12:20:03 PM »
Woo-hoo! Karma!  :D

As far as the "CR750" goes, I'm really not trying to start any fights. We're talking about opinions of its appearance, and "debating" that would be as silly as arguing whether blue is a good color or not.

Having said that,Terry is still wrong.  :P ;D

Seriously, I understand the point, and can even see why folks would like the bike. My POV is simply that, rather than being a modernised homage to the classic CR750, it looks to me more like an old bike paying homage to modern equipment. The same effect can be had by putting wide alloy wheels and an aerodynamics package on an old MG.

Which would apparently sell by the boatload in Australia.  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2006, 12:52:15 PM »


                     I keep hearing the "Sportbike" being brought up. Now that's what I don't understand.
        But, then I don't really care about them anyway. Maybe I'm too old to appreciate them, I don't
        know. I do know that you can total on of them out with just body damage. I've always preferred
        bikes without a bunch of "stuff" on them. Now, even though I don't care for them and can't
        think of 1 that I'd want, that doesn't mean that I'm against them. I may comment that "I
        wouldn't ant 1, wouldn't buy 1 or whatever. I promise you that I'd never come down on a guy
        because he did something to his, bought a certain bike or liked a certain bike and I hope no one
        gets that idea. It should be,"To each his own". and with that, I'm outta here.  Bill :) ;)
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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2006, 03:04:36 PM »
My 2cents...

I am a big fan of the Ebay CR in question. Not my cup of tea, but it is sweet.
Reminds me of the CB that user OHIOCAFERACER is building , with the modern front-end and such..

To each his own , but for that kinda cash , I would go and buy a newer rocket, and not have to
deal with the older "issues" that a 30+ year old bike brings..Those new Ducati cafe bikes are sweet, and would prob. go that route, and I just might !  ;D
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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2006, 05:25:33 PM »
I will one day build a modern "Triton" (Triumph engine in Norton featherbed frame)

Nuh uh, mate, it'll have a Cox lawnmower engine in it!

It'll maintain the theme to the point where old farts will come up and say "I used to have one of them"
 Cheers, Terry. ;D

You mean your current peers?

Those new Ducati cafe bikes are sweet, and would prob. go that route, and I just might !  ;D

Terry, any comments?  I know you like Ducati's!


Have a great day, Terry!

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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2006, 11:48:14 PM »

Having said that,Terry is still wrong.  :P ;D

Ha ha, "POV"s or "Opinion's" are like #$%*s mate, everybody has one, and some of our wives are married to one, so "shut yer face hole", Noel! (I really love saying this, it's like some kinda hypnotic mantra.........................) ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2006, 05:31:40 PM »
I wonder why I havn't posted on this one ?  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The ultimate CR750 Replica?
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2006, 05:57:55 AM »
Bill440 was rite about the sportbikes and total with bodywork only. I went to an auto auction with a friend a couple of weeks ago and there were 15 or 20 sportsbikes there several I hit the starter button and they fired up, I think I could have got any one of them and rode off,just body damage.  Dannie
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