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Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« on: January 13, 2011, 11:33:00 pm »
OK, this looks like one of those trick APE cranks... Look closer, it is a Hondamatic crank...but what you can't see is that it is a 5 mm stroker.

Add one of these 68 mm stroke cranks to your APE 1000 cc kit and you have a stump pulling 1077cc.

No don't go telling everyone about this  ;D

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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 11:57:16 pm »
OK Jay, It's our secret,  :D :D :D :D

Sam. ::) ;)
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2011, 12:58:32 am »
If you can't afford Jays 1,000cc conversion or Mikes 1,000cc billet block, this crank will take your 836 out to 902cc. 8)

Sam. ;)
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2011, 01:33:33 am »
Are you doing this to "normal" cranks Jay ? and do Carillo make rods to suit ?..

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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2011, 11:07:11 am »
would love more info on what rods to use and cost
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2011, 12:25:40 pm »
+1, Tell us about the rods.
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2011, 11:45:36 pm »
I am not sure what this customer is doing for rods, but we would do this to any 750 sohc crank and supply 2.5 mm shorter Carrillos.
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2011, 04:01:56 am »
Oooher, so with 70mm pistons this'll give you a capacity of 1077 cc, then that'll give me 1138cc with my 73mm pistons? Anyone wanna buy a shiny new lightened and balanced APE crank, I think it's time I upgrade! ;D
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2011, 03:21:42 pm »
Quote from: Terry in Australia on January 15, 2011, 04:01:56 am
Oooher, so with 70mm pistons this'll give you a capacity of 1077 cc, then that'll give me 1138cc with my 73mm pistons? Anyone wanna buy a shiny new lightened and balanced APE crank, I think it's time I upgrade! ;D

Are you serious Terry, i could have a use for that crank..... ;)

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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2011, 03:35:20 pm »
From the sounds of things Mick could use that as an anchor!  ;D
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2011, 03:41:55 pm »
Quote from: Jerry Rxman Griffin on January 15, 2011, 03:35:20 pm
From the sounds of things Mick could use that as an anchor!  ;D

Well, we were never in trouble of flooding where i am {luckily} but if cranks were anchors the misses would be pissed as her car would be the donor..... ;D

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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2011, 05:57:27 am »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on January 15, 2011, 03:21:42 pm
Quote from: Terry in Australia on January 15, 2011, 04:01:56 am
Oooher, so with 70mm pistons this'll give you a capacity of 1077 cc, then that'll give me 1138cc with my 73mm pistons? Anyone wanna buy a shiny new lightened and balanced APE crank, I think it's time I upgrade! ;D

Are you serious Terry, i could have a use for that crank..... ;)

Mick

Nah mate, if I lived in the US I would, but with shipping (even a lightened crank weighs a bloody ton!) the price for the machine work was roughly doubled what you see in the APE catalogue. (and I only had it shipped one way!) ;D 
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2011, 05:18:52 pm »
SHEEEEEZ  ;D
Just when I thought I had the wish list fullfilled.   :D
This one is definately going in BUT could there be another begging for a few more cubes?  ;D
Big Jay, that is perfect.
Mick

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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2011, 02:33:48 am »
What rubbery Chinese Carriros ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2011, 03:20:36 am »
How are you Sam
Well, if these rods manage to get turned into Nasi Goreng, I'm taking my ball and going home to Mum.  ;D
Great news that the "Samauto" is moving forward.
We're all waiting with baited breath to hear about it roaring into life.
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 04:20:38 am »
I'm itching myself Mick, It'll soon be March and I've just paid my air fare. 8)
Another thing I'm itching to see is, who is going to be the first one to fire up their JMR billet motor.
I spoke to Eric the other night on the phone, his motor is ready to go and he was just waiting on his CR750 frame to come back after being converted to CR spec.

Sam. ;)
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2011, 05:10:37 am »
All going well Sam, I'm hoping that there will be some thunder from Down Under coming from Mikes Billet Motor this year.
A few other unforseen hurdles to deal with last year slowed progress for a bit and Mike is preparing the cylinder head.
One thing is for sure, it is going to happen.  ;D
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2011, 04:28:40 pm »
Quote from: mick7504 on January 17, 2011, 05:10:37 am
All going well Sam, I'm hoping that there will be some thunder from Down Under coming from Mikes Billet Motor this year.
A few other unforseen hurdles to deal with last year slowed progress for a bit and Mike is preparing the cylinder head.
One thing is for sure, it is going to happen.  ;D
Mick




Plus one on the hurdles Mick, mine will be done this year as well but having to get everything from overseas is a slow and tiring process...
It has to be done right though..... ;)

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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2011, 05:27:04 pm »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on January 17, 2011, 04:28:40 pm
Quote from: mick7504 on January 17, 2011, 05:10:37 am
All going well Sam, I'm hoping that there will be some thunder from Down Under coming from Mikes Billet Motor this year.
A few other unforseen hurdles to deal with last year slowed progress for a bit and Mike is preparing the cylinder head.
One thing is for sure, it is going to happen.  ;D
Mick




Plus one on the hurdles Mick, mine will be done this year as well but having to get everything from overseas is a slow and tiring process...
It has to be done right though..... ;)

Mick
We'll get it mate.
Just gotta keep the wood on it and nothings going to stop progress even if things slow up a bit.
Do it once and do it good.
Mick  ;)
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2011, 02:07:38 pm »
Quote from: Big Jay on January 14, 2011, 11:45:36 pm
I am not sure what this customer is doing for rods, but we would do this to any 750 sohc crank and supply 2.5 mm shorter Carrillos.

Why can't a base plate be used wth the stock rods?
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2011, 02:49:23 pm »
Quote from: dragracer on January 27, 2011, 02:07:38 pm
Quote from: Big Jay on January 14, 2011, 11:45:36 pm
I am not sure what this customer is doing for rods, but we would do this to any 750 sohc crank and supply 2.5 mm shorter Carrillos.

Why can't a base plate be used wth the stock rods?

I couldn't get my head around that one either Frank, but never having played with a stroker, thought I'd best keep it shut. ::)
See ya March. 8)

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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2011, 03:04:09 pm »
Wouldn't a base plate mean that you have to have another gasket, therefore you are just giving the engine one more place to leak..?

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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2011, 03:18:19 pm »
I've fitted 900 DOHC rods before and a .060" spacer plate under the block with no problems.
If everything is perfectly clean and flat, it should all be good.
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2011, 04:28:14 am »
Quote from: SamCB750A on January 27, 2011, 02:49:23 pm
Quote from: dragracer on January 27, 2011, 02:07:38 pm
Quote from: Big Jay on January 14, 2011, 11:45:36 pm
I am not sure what this customer is doing for rods, but we would do this to any 750 sohc crank and supply 2.5 mm shorter Carrillos.

Why can't a base plate be used wth the stock rods?

I couldn't get my head around that one either Frank, but never having played with a stroker, thought I'd best keep it shut. ::)
See ya March. 8)

Sam. ;)

At first, I thought it was the maths playing with my head but when you take a step back and think about it ::)
It's the crank that determines the stroke. The length of the rods only determine where the piston reaches in the bore.
With the shorter rods, the piston don't pop out the block (no need for spacer) but it travels further down the block.
As long as the sleeve is long enough at the bottom and it and the pistons clear the crank, no problem. ::)

Sam. ;)
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Re: Sneak peak..Don't tell anyone you saw this
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 11:57:11 am »
Stump pulling or stud pulling? Just asking.
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