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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2011, 06:52:48 AM »
Is he a tire guy or the moto stealership?

Usually every decent sized city has a tire guy.


Stealership!

That was 310 mounted, but plus 20 extra per tube, 5 extra per rim strip...350 plus tax! and that was off the bike...I can't even imagine what they would have charged if I brought the bike to them.

There is a guy on CL that mounted and balanced the tires for 20 each! did it right in his basement. Took him 10 minutes and I am buying a set of wheels off him for my sporty too.
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2011, 10:58:35 AM »
As others have said, find a place that sells, mounts and balances your tires locally.

Spend the extra 20 bucks or whatever. I mean, you're going to have to go to them anyway to get them mounted and balanced.

They'll do a better job because you bought them there, you're supporting a local business, and hey, you might make a new friend.

Also, you don't have to freakin wait a week and a half for them to show up, there's a real person to answer questions you may have, you can see the stock BEFORE you commit to buy, etc... Well worth the few extra dollars.

Now, if they turn out to be kinda #$%*s, like an unnamed local shop here in PDX which most of us have boycotted, you can take your business elsewhere, but if ya can, keep your local suppliers kids in shoes.

My local dealer sucks! Wait on hold for an hour to ask them a simple question, they never want to look up parts for these old bikes, and they are way more than $2p extra per tire! They wanted $310 to mount/ balance and for the tires. The same tires I paid less than $150 for....and they arrived in 3 days.
OK, your local dealer sucks. Why would you take your 40 year old bike to a dealer? Anyway, you can find a good shop around you somewhere.
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2011, 02:28:10 PM »
Is he a tire guy or the moto stealership?

Usually every decent sized city has a tire guy.


Stealership!

That was 310 mounted, but plus 20 extra per tube, 5 extra per rim strip...350 plus tax! and that was off the bike...I can't even imagine what they would have charged if I brought the bike to them.

There is a guy on CL that mounted and balanced the tires for 20 each! did it right in his basement. Took him 10 minutes and I am buying a set of wheels off him for my sporty too.
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2011, 03:34:31 PM »
Is he a tire guy or the moto stealership?

Usually every decent sized city has a tire guy.


Stealership!

That was 310 mounted, but plus 20 extra per tube, 5 extra per rim strip...350 plus tax! and that was off the bike...I can't even imagine what they would have charged if I brought the bike to them.

There is a guy on CL that mounted and balanced the tires for 20 each! did it right in his basement. Took him 10 minutes and I am buying a set of wheels off him for my sporty too.
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2011, 05:57:51 PM »
Is he a tire guy or the moto stealership?

Usually every decent sized city has a tire guy.


Stealership!

That was 310 mounted, but plus 20 extra per tube, 5 extra per rim strip...350 plus tax! and that was off the bike...I can't even imagine what they would have charged if I brought the bike to them.

There is a guy on CL that mounted and balanced the tires for 20 each! did it right in his basement. Took him 10 minutes and I am buying a set of wheels off him for my sporty too.
Rich at Detroit Wheelz ? 

Yessir...great guy
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2011, 06:08:33 AM »
Go to the dealership?

No.  Not for any of the bikes in my garage.

First off, they don't want to deal with anything older than 5 years.  And even if I do bring in a wheel from one of the newer bikes - who winds up changing the tire?

The new guy who just graduated from MMI.

He's all set to live the dream of working on the machines that he loves.  He's going to spend all his time riding motorcycles and getting all the chicks because he's a motorcycle mechanic!

And then he shows up for his first day of work at the motorcycle shop and finds out that he'll be making the same amount of money that he would make at the McDonalds across the street.  And that his first assignment involves a toilet brush.  He's scheduled for 50 hours that week and no, he's not eligible for overtime because he's part of the "management team."  First assistant deputy manager of toilet brush related activities.  Soon he'll be promoted to mop operations engineer.

But then you come through the door with your wheel.  You took it off yourself rather than pay the minimum half hour labor to get the wheel on and off the bike.  Labor rate is $83 an hour.  They didn't have your tire in stock, nobody stocks tires (or much of anything else) any more in these days of JIT overnight shipping.  But you were smart and ordered the tire in advance.

The tire came out of the EXACT SAME WAREHOUSE that a tire ordered from Dennis Kirk comes from.

So the boss yells for Sparky (or Stinky or Weasel or Rooster or whatever godawful nickname they saddled the poor kid with) to drop the toilet brush and get over to the tire changing machine.  He complies, posthaste.  He vaguely remembers how to do this, they spent two hours on it at school one morning before coffee break.  He even got to change a tire once.  It was pretty easy.  Of course that tire had been changed about 173 times before he got his hands on it so it stretched right over the rim, no problem.

The less said about the tire changing job the better.  There’s a reason they make you wait in the “lounge” (Woooo!  Free coffee!) while they work on your stuff.  Let’s just point out that the job involved a sledgehammer and leave it at that.

The kid comes out and hands you your wheel.  And your old tire.  You have to take it away with you despite the fact that they charged you 8 bucks for “disposal.”

You get home and notice two things: your rim is now dented to hell and gone and the tire was mounted backwards.

All this assumes you’re getting a tubeless tire done.  You don’t even want to know what happens if you bring in a wheel that needs a tube.

Our young man Gonzo?  (Gonzo is a pretty good nickname.)  If he’s got any real mechanical aptitude he won’t be working at the bike shop for long.  Soon enough he’ll get a job where he can make a living.  HVAC, cars, elevators, something like that.  Maybe he’ll fix bikes on the side out of his garage but probably not.

There used to be a small shop here in Chicago that I did a lot of business with.  I didn’t mind paying a little extra to support the place because of the wealth of knowledge that the proprietor possessed.  When the economy tanked he gave up and closed the shop.  He fixes fork lifts now.

When he went under a buddy of mine bought a No-Mar tire changing machine.  He changes tires for $25.  $20 each if you bring two wheels at the same time, includes balancing.  He charges more if he has to get them on and off the bike for you.

I order my tires and tubes from whoever has the best price.  Usually order a bunch of other parts at the same time.  BikeBandit charges the same for shipping if you order 1 item or 50.  I’m a big fan of the Dunlop GT501.







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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2011, 08:14:37 AM »
I'm with alot of you on not going to the dealership, local tire guy maybe, but def not a dealership, and def not if you are taking the whole bike in to get the tires installed. alot of places have a test drive policy if they remove wheels. My buddy in Hawaii took his 2005 GSXR 1000 to the dealership for tires, as his options on the island are kind of limited. mechanic changed tires and dumped the bike on the test drive, taking out most of the fairings. now, they took care of paying for and installing all the new parts, but he was without his bike for a month as it took a while to get the fairings shipped there. I've worked at a few dealerships, i've seen what goes on behind the doors and who they let work on bikes....  I'm not saying there are not good dealers out there, but you need to find one you trust.
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2011, 08:26:21 AM »
I usually just change my own tires. Its really not that difficult if you have the correct tools and equipmet.What I usually find on these old bikes,especially on the first tire change in years is that the inside of the rim will usually have some significant rust issues,people using soapy water etc mounting, that need to be addressed before the new strip, tube and tire are mounted up. Feel better about doing that myself so its done right.

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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2011, 01:55:51 PM »
For what it's worth - http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/
 

I do try and stay local for everything I can.  But....when the only local shop I know of quotes me $254 for 2 tires (Chen Shin!) + $85 each for mounting & balancing
for a total of $424 before taxes and local fees.....well,  that's when I learned to mount my own tires.

It's not particularly difficult.   Get some rim savers and a good set of tire irons (mine were less than $40)   Another tip - wear some mechanics gloves.
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2011, 03:58:13 PM »
Holy crap, I can get Avons mounted, balanced, and a bit of wheel truing done for around 300 bucks here...

425 for mounted chen shins?!

Preposterous. I should move down there and open a tire shop. Make a killing.
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2011, 07:31:51 PM »
Yeah, if I buy the tire from my guy (reasonable retail prices) and for about $10 or $15 he mounts and balances them and disposes of the old tire. I guess I am lucky along with Mlinder.

I may have to open a tire shop in some of these cities also.  ::)
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2011, 11:30:29 AM »
i change alot of tires and i get all my tires from dennis kirk. they are not always the cheapest, but they do price match, and their tires are "new". some of these online stores that sell tires $20-30 less than anywhere else, the tires have been sittin on a shelf for years, can be 4-5 years old already, sometimes older. I've never got a tire from dennis kirk that was more than 4-5 months past manufacture date. and you'll have them in 2-3 days of ordering.

I have received a front from them 100/90/19 that was three or so years old... When I ordered that set of tires, I asked if they would be "fresh" and was assured that they would eb.  They did not want to do anything (exchange?) so I ended up running that tire, but stopped buying from them. FWIW

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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2011, 12:36:20 PM »
Yes, fresh from the rack.  ;D

Another reason to buy local for tires.

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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2011, 01:10:13 PM »
I used to get my tires done at a reputable local shop. When I asked why they needed to put new tubes in they said they had to do it for safety reasons. I own a bicycle shop and I often see 10 to 20 year old tires that are trashed w/ perfectly good tubes in them, I even have a 1936 Schwinn w/ one original tube still in it that I used to ride regularly. I figured the professionals know best though. When I swapped that tire onto another rim recently I found a 4" tube stuffed into it! Cheap chinese crap folded and twisted to fit. :o Thanks for the time bomb guys! I'll never have anyone do tires for me again. It's not that hard to do yourself and you'll know it was done right.
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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2011, 01:24:37 PM »
for the benefit of those in the Bay Area, could you share the name of the place? I started doing my own tires long ago, just so that I could be sure that it was done the way I wanted it done.

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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2011, 01:36:56 PM »
for the benefit of those in the Bay Area, could you share the name of the place? I started doing my own tires long ago, just so that I could be sure that it was done the way I wanted it done.

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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2011, 02:01:24 PM »
I hate to rag on them because they've always done right by me (except for that once) and they are pretty decent folks with great pricing and a wealth of knowledge but it was K.C. Engineering. F.Y.I. I've been expanding my shop to cover motorsports needs as well and can now offer a lot of stuff for our bikes, tires from IRC, Michelin, Pirelli and Shinko included at very competitive prices. If you're in the area and need something, let me know.
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2011, 02:05:42 PM »
Thanks for the info. This is not the first time I read about similar stuff coming out of KC.

Tom at south Bay is a nice guy. I bought a zx9 motor from him for my 94 zx7 and he was very nice to deal with.

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Re: cheapest place to buy tires?
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2011, 03:15:09 AM »
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/
I've bought quite a few tyres from this crew and they supply fresh rubber at a low (20-30% cheaper than anyone else we could find) cost and they ship quickly.
It took 3 days for the last order I put in to get from Utah USA to Melbourne Australia.
I reckon there's a big bunch of Aussies, from what I've seen over on GSX1400.org, that would testify for this crew.

I fit my own tyres so that is never a consideration when buying hoops. 
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