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Offline patni

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1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« on: March 20, 2011, 07:40:08 PM »
Dear Fellows,

I need to fix engine timing, I downloaded the manual and really need few answers:

First there are no mark on camshaft, is this normal or something wrong with my cam?

What mean by "No. One piston is at Top Dead Center of the compression Stroke"

Any help will be highly appreciated.

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Patni
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2011, 07:51:35 PM »
It's not a mark on the cam shaft end, it's a square notch of material cut out of the shaft.  Are you positive there is no notch in the end of your cam shaft?   

Top dead center of compression stroke means when the piston is at the absolute top of its upward travel, and both cam lobes for that cylinder are in the upward position allowing both the intake and exhaust valves to be fully closed. 

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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2011, 08:05:25 PM »
Dear Gordon,

I am from Karachi, Pakistan. I will check the notch but another stupid question is what to do with the notch, should it be aligned with something?

I mainly do vintage British bike, Triumph and BSA mostly and this CB500 is my first Japanese project  >:(.

Please advise how to set the engine timing.

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Patni
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2011, 08:35:04 PM »
I can't say for sure about the alignment for your particular model.  Which manual did you download?  A decent one should detail this procedure fairly well.  Perhaps try another one? 
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2011, 08:50:54 PM »
Quote from: Gordon on March 20, 2011, 07:51:35 PM
It's not a mark on the cam shaft end, it's a square notch of material cut out of the shaft.  Are you positive there is no notch in the end of your cam shaft?   

Top dead center of compression stroke means when the piston is at the absolute top of its upward travel, and both cam lobes for that cylinder are in the upward position allowing both the intake and exhaust valves to be fully closed. 

Welcome!  Where are you from?
the lobes will be pointing down for the cylinder under compression.
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2011, 08:56:54 PM »
Quote from: dave500 on March 20, 2011, 08:50:54 PM
Quote from: Gordon on March 20, 2011, 07:51:35 PM
It's not a mark on the cam shaft end, it's a square notch of material cut out of the shaft.  Are you positive there is no notch in the end of your cam shaft?   

Top dead center of compression stroke means when the piston is at the absolute top of its upward travel, and both cam lobes for that cylinder are in the upward position allowing both the intake and exhaust valves to be fully closed. 

Welcome!  Where are you from?
the lobes will be pointing down for the cylinder under compression.

Cam lobes in the downward position means they're pushing the valves open, which means no compression. 
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 09:36:41 PM »
The Honda shop manual covers this well.  Can't imagine working on the motor without one.
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 11:10:22 PM »
Sorry Gordon you are wrong on this one, followers work on the top surface of the lobe so lobes up = valves open; lobes down = followers on base circle so valves closed
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2011, 12:12:20 AM »
Quote from: Gordon on March 20, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
Quote from: dave500 on March 20, 2011, 08:50:54 PM
Quote from: Gordon on March 20, 2011, 07:51:35 PM
It's not a mark on the cam shaft end, it's a square notch of material cut out of the shaft.  Are you positive there is no notch in the end of your cam shaft?  

Top dead center of compression stroke means when the piston is at the absolute top of its upward travel, and both cam lobes for that cylinder are in the upward position allowing both the intake and exhaust valves to be fully closed.  

Welcome!  Where are you from?
the lobes will be pointing down for the cylinder under compression.

Cam lobes in the downward position means they're pushing the valves open, which means no compression.  
bucket and shim type engines with no rockers.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 12:15:25 AM by dave500 »
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2011, 08:05:45 AM »
Sorry guys, especially to Patni, for being completely wrong! :-[ :-[  Don't know what I was thinking.  My head must have been on upside down last night! :-\

Thanks for going easy on me. ;)



Edit:  Just donated another $5 to the forums as punishment for being so dumb. ::)
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 08:19:56 AM by Gordon »
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2011, 12:02:43 AM »
Gordon , you are definately NOT dumb mate, My old boss used to say "Him what dont make mistakes does sod all!!" we all make up, as long as we own up to them its all hunky dorey
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2011, 12:19:43 PM »
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Him what dont make mistakes does sod all!!"

I see you put it in the Queens English.
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Re: 1974 CB500 K2 Engine Timing
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 09:00:32 AM »
Its the engrish i use no matter which queen is listening mate!!
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