Topic: Hoop installed - enough surface to support seat?

[Sox Fan]

Starting to make some progress with my build. Cut the rear frame and welded in a hoop and a couple of braces for a flat, brat style seat from Dime City. I think this is enough surface to mount the seat?

[seanbarney41]

and the back wheel goes where when the suspension compresses?

[firebane]

and the back wheel goes where when the suspension compresses?

Quit being so silly shocks don't compress.

[seanbarney41]

and the back wheel goes where when the suspension compresses?

Quit being so silly shocks don't compress.

thats what I thought until one day when I stopped looking at trendy bikes online and actually rode one

[RAFster122s]

Just weld up a hard tail  and let your spine handle the compression.  It is all for the looks anyway...cafe bikes and brats to be ridable jewelry for many. They won't ride them in the rain or when it drops below 55-60F.

Shocks, who needs shocks?

[Sox Fan]

and the back wheel goes where when the suspension compresses?

Sorry - what does that have to do with mounting a seat?

[RAFster122s]

He was trying to point out that flattening the rear with a hoop that is flat will not provide the tire clearance when the rear suspension fully compresses. This results in very bad things happening when that occurs.

[seanbarney41]

and the back wheel goes where when the suspension compresses?

Sorry - what does that have to do with mounting a seat?

dude, your seat will be mounted strong...don't worry about the back wheel hitting

[calj737]

Its more than enough surface area and bracing to support your seat. In fact, with a closed loop, the cross bracing is superfluous. To Sean's point, you may actually want to remove the flat stock to allow the tire to move upwards during suspension compression so as not to conflict with the brace/tread.

You are not the first to perform this modification and not realize the potential for conflict. Nor will you be the last. Longer shocks tend to be the requirement afterwards which alters the steering geometry and thus, the negative feedback from some with prior experience. Don't take slightly snarky comments personally, its just that certain "mistakes" are seen repeatedly and some folks get tired of explaining the same thing over and again. 

[JoeCooley]

Nice job welding in the hoop.

[Sox Fan]

Thank you. Rookie welder.

[Sox Fan]

Its more than enough surface area and bracing to support your seat. In fact, with a closed loop, the cross bracing is superfluous. To Sean's point, you may actually want to remove the flat stock to allow the tire to move upwards during suspension compression so as not to conflict with the brace/tread. 

Thanks for your thoughts. Very helpful.  That brace all the way back I don't think will be any lower than the underneath of the seat so I suppose if it is going to rub, the rear tire will either hit that brace or the bottom of the seat.  Will have to see what shock setting is best once I have the rear wheel installed.

[Steve_K]

It is easy to check clearance.  Remove one shock, take spring off(I can do with my hands) and put back on.  Remove the other shock and raise the wheel and check with shock compressed.  Easy to with a centerstand, but do able without.

Steve