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1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« on: October 21, 2015, 06:32:07 pm »
For those interested to paint their 76 550F: Dupli-color DE 1607 will give you this result. Looks spot on to me.



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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2015, 07:50:16 pm »
Also 1976 Honda CVCC orange works perfect if you end up at an autobody paint store for rattlecans.
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2015, 08:29:53 pm »
Also 1976 Honda CVCC orange works perfect if you end up at an autobody paint store for rattlecans.

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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2015, 05:01:21 am »
I've always been confused in regard to the 550F orange. Some are shiny. But the one I think is better has the candy in it. Mine does and it looks much better IMO
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2015, 06:31:35 am »
I've been confused for a while about which came first - i.e. is my 1975 model meant to have candy orange or shiny orange? It would seem to make more sense if the candy orange was used first but I have a feeling that the plain shiny orange came first.?
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2015, 07:12:54 am »
Not sure where you guys are getting your "Orange Candy" info from? I do not believe there was one.

There were two oranges, "Flake Sunrise Orange" in '75 and "Shiny Orange" in '76.

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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2015, 08:25:55 am »
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http://www.sohc4.net/cb550-model-guide/
That model guide is to be avoided. It is corrupt. Pictures are not correct and it mentions a model F3 that never existed.
According to the Parts List CB550F-CB550F1 p.60 and p.63 the CB550F had Flake Sunrise Orange (Honda code: R-2C-F) and the CB550F1 had Shing Orange (Honda code: YR-26)
http://www.honda4fun.com/pdf_parts_list/pdf_spac550/CB550F_F1/CB550F_F1-3.pdf
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2015, 09:38:09 am »
Also 1976 Honda CVCC orange works perfect if you end up at an autobody paint store for rattlecans.

Is that the bike you sold? How could you?!

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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2015, 09:52:45 am »
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http://www.sohc4.net/cb550-model-guide/
That model guide is to be avoided. It is corrupt. Pictures are not correct and it mentions a model F3 that never existed.
Accordng to the Parts List CB550F-CB550F1 p.60 and p.63 the CB550F had Flake Sunrise Orange (Honda code: R-2C-F) and the CB550F1 had Shing Orange (Honda code: YR-26)
http://www.honda4fun.com/pdf_parts_list/pdf_spac550/CB550F_F1/CB550F_F1-3.pdf

Besides describing the '77 as an F3 in the first chart, and only one picture out of place, that model guide's descriptions are actually quite accurate.
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2015, 10:39:30 am »
I've always preferred this gallery: http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0550/four550.htm
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2015, 11:37:37 am »
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Besides describing the '77 as an F3 in the first chart, and only one picture out of place, that model guide's descriptions are actually quite accurate.
I count at least three errors so I wouldn't call it 'actually quite accurate'. It's enough to qualify it as corrupt data, as is the Shop Manual presented in this site (two important pages missing) as is the wrong carburetor scheme presented here over and over again. Why even bother to look at such 'guides' if you can have the original info from... Honda?
Denominating models in years is an American consumers market thing. It doesn't reflect reality. Sometimes the same model is sold in more than one year and sometimes a newer model is launched in the same year as it's predecessor. Focussing on years leads to confusion. Where is the CB550F3 in the real world? Nowhere. Where is the CB550F that exists in the real world in that model guide? It isn't there. All this is the result of trying to denominate models in years. It's useless and leads to confusion, like when you have to service the clutch plates for instance.
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2015, 01:05:49 pm »
So both of those links agree that the 'Flake Sunrise Orange' color came first. Does any one have a picture of an original '75 flake sunrise orange bike?
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2015, 01:29:58 pm »
There's one in my avatar - sadly I don't have a pic on this computer.  550K tho - 75 (manufactured Dec 1974)
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2015, 02:22:19 am »
How about this one (lifted off the net) - does this hue look about right for flake sunrise orange

I am liking this color - a little darker than the blinker lenses but with a hint of gold, hmmmm...
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2015, 05:27:09 am »

There were two oranges, "Flake Sunrise Orange" in '75 and "Shiny Orange" in '76.


My stock 76 "Shiny Orange" tank.

The "Flake Sunrise Orange" I saw is very close to the same color of orange, just add a fine flake, almost a pearl.

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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2015, 05:28:40 am »
...just add a fine flake, almost a pearl.
The flake is due to an underlayer of metallic, not an additive to the color coat.
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2015, 05:36:53 am »
...just add a fine flake, almost a pearl.
The flake is due to an underlayer of metallic, not an additive to the color coat.

Could very well be but it's nothing like the picture in the post above mine by jonda500. Looked like a flake in the color to my untrained eye.

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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2015, 06:26:26 am »

There were two oranges, "Flake Sunrise Orange" in '75 and "Shiny Orange" in '76.


My stock 76 "Shiny Orange" tank.




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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2015, 06:32:45 am »
Could very well be but it's nothing like the picture in the post above mine by jonda500. Looked like a flake in the color to my untrained eye.
The original process is well documented. As for the picture posted, who knows whether it's original or not. Many have tried to duplicate the original appearance using modern paints and flake additives. This may be one of them. Flake Subrise is not a SS color anyway, only solid shiny orange.

As for your untrained eye, if your eyes are good enough to determine paint layers from an Internet photo than you are in the wrong business!  ???
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2015, 06:43:19 am »
Thanks Kenzo, I've never seen an original flake sunrise orange bike and the ones in pics on the web have mostly been restored so I could only guess at which ones were close.
I now think it's most likely that I will mimmick the shiny orange color but in a metalic paint... my problem is that I still haven't completely ruled out the blue yet... if I chose blue I think the cover I ordered might be the right blue? - when it arrives I'll see if I like the color (in the picture the blue looks a bit too light for my liking)
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2015, 06:57:20 am »
This one looks original to me?
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197? CB500/550 constructing from left over parts
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Re: 1976 CB550F Shiny Orange Paint
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2015, 07:40:51 am »

There were two oranges, "Flake Sunrise Orange" in '75 and "Shiny Orange" in '76.


My stock 76 "Shiny Orange" tank.


Are you certain that is original paint? Looks to good to be 40 years old...

Yup it's the original paint in decent shape(pics always hide the flaws/details).

I got the bike from the grandsons of the original owner. They didn't take the best care of it...

...it's the first time I've bought a bike off a dead guy.  ;)

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