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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2020, 07:29:32 AM »
The answer here seems not to be what TS asked for, more what he need and has use for.  As so often on these forums.

Can you explain this?  I don't know what this means...who is TS?
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2020, 08:28:58 AM »
Most choppers are single rail or top tube from head stock to seat area.
 On the stock frame the 2 extra rails are in the way , unless you cut them out.
I believe the carbs will fit but no room for a filter.
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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2020, 09:16:46 AM »
The answer here seems not to be what TS asked for, more what he need and has use for.  As so often on these forums.

Can you explain this?  I don't know what this means...who is TS?
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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2020, 10:45:50 AM »
OK, swenglish by me :D
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2020, 01:19:08 PM »
Thanks for clarifying, I don’t have the lingo down yet   ;D

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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2020, 06:03:54 PM »
Still researching, plan is stick to big bore kit, cam, carbs, and exhaust.  I still have a lot of questions and potential concerns the biggest being cost to actual performance.  This is a project for fun, not for racing or competition of any kind.
The biggest gains will be from the big bore and ported cylinder head; spend your money there first. ;)
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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2020, 06:41:10 PM »
‘No replacement for displacement’

Are there any kits that are used more by members on here?  WeIsco for example?  Can anyone explain the benefits of JE pistons having compression ratios of 12+ vs Weisco that have 10+?  Is it the difference of beefing up internals like heavy duty con rods and head bolts?

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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2020, 06:44:57 PM »
"Good head is hard to beat"
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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2020, 06:50:29 PM »
"Good head is hard to beat"
That says it all!! ;D
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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2020, 07:33:30 PM »
836 is very popular, for street your compression ratio should be 10.5 ish.... 12 would be harder to get gas for,,
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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2020, 08:04:36 PM »
Some folks have had good luck with the cast piston 836 Cruizin Image kits, which are much cheaper than the higher compression forged pistons, and offer the biggest "bang for the buck" with regards to displacement. With good head, this will give a VERY noticeable increase in performance, even with a stock cam and crabs. ;)
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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2020, 08:21:32 PM »
836 is very popular, for street your compression ratio should be 10.5 ish.... 12 would be harder to get gas for,,

Great to know, I wouldn't have considered gas availability on my own.  Thanks!

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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2020, 08:27:02 PM »
Some folks have had good luck with the cast piston 836 Cruizin Image kits, which are much cheaper than the higher compression forged pistons, and offer the biggest "bang for the buck" with regards to displacement. With good head, this will give a VERY noticeable increase in performance, even with a stock cam and crabs. ;)

Thanks for the lead, 30 bucks a piston, pin, ring almost sounds too good to be true.  Weisco on the other hand is north of 700 for the kit.

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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2020, 10:54:32 PM »
If you plan a higher and longer lifting cam, you need other pistons with deeper valve pockets and higher CR to compensate for the overlap.

CruzinImage pockets not deep enough. Like stock pistons but 4mm wider.

Cruzinimage 836cc might take a webcam 41.

It work the other way too, pistons with higher CR need a cam with more overlap than stock.
APE, Dynoman and CycleX sell kits.
I'm sure Mike Rieck (forum member MRieck) can bake a kit for you head work included.

836 with other mods making around 80whp is OK with stock rods.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2020, 10:57:06 PM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2020, 11:01:44 PM »
Don't lead him down the bottomless rabbit hole of ultimate performance, Per. ::)
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Re: CycleX Twin Mikuni Setup..No Stock Frame??
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2020, 03:13:42 AM »
Yes, that can cost a lot or 2 ;)
Head might need to be restored.
Cruzinimage pistons as mentioned as many use and written about in a long thread.

They have also
K7 392  +0.5mm std pistons. Lower bore cost. A little bit more compression than K0-K6 pistons.

My K2 build use the 392 61.5mm pistons. That bike runs very well now.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2020, 03:15:36 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967