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Offline Don R

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CycleX 890 cc
« on: September 01, 2022, 02:27:18 PM »
  My 836 Hot Rod bike was well used and sat in a barn, it unstuck but re-stuck later. I'm looking at the CycleX 890 kit. Has anyone used one and did you need to machine the head for the bore size?  The head is ported and has an RC315 or Engle cam depending on which head I use (I'd keep cam and rockers matched)
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2022, 11:54:13 PM »
I do not know about CycleX 890 12.1:1 kit.

I have Dynoman DP890 12.5:1.
CycleX stepped sleeves that were really cheap a year or 2 ago.
Sleeve-cylinder sealed with Wurth Super RTV silicone that hopefully will keep oil on the right side. I do not think that it was needed to bore wider in the bottom for sealer on that cylinder. My 970 cylinder got it.

Cylinder has holes in air vents 1-2, 3-4 as usual when boring.

Good thing with these flat JE pistons is that they can be milled to adapt to the head and cylinder height and get needed compression.


Pistons not milled here:


I have done a test ride last year. I had to use double washers under sparkplugs for clearance. Compression too high for Shell V-power fuel. Tested different cams. Pinging despite DP315 cam set with less than half lash making lots of duration.

The pistons are now milled 2mm off which I guess will be in correct range for the used head with ~24.5cc chambers.

Need to verify which base gasket and head gasket to use. Maybe thin RCS base, thick MLS head gasket.
I had to widen chambers a little bit more due to contact. Chambers were opened before.

Not wide enough here, contact. Made the squish angle deeper.



My 970 kit (70mm)  my bike has now was also JE 12.5:1 flat pistons. Also CycleX sleeves, their thicker 74.5/69 mm, also very cheap a year or 2 ago
Milled them around 3mm to match other heads with  23.7cc chambers.
Piston crown thickness was around 7mm so no problem to shave. The 890cc (67mm) pistons about same thickness.
Cylinder had to be milled too, 1mm off since the very pistons outer top area were lower. Needed to be closer to head for better squish. Work fine with 125-75 cam.
My billet block 71.25mm piston setup used as a master for correct volumes and comparisons to land in same compression area which it did. The guy in the shop has tuned bikes since the 70's.
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2022, 11:24:45 AM »
Don, I used the 915 kit but my head had already been done by Mike. It was not a high compression just 10.5:1'ish. Best to just check in with Kenny at CycleX. He also did my cylinders and provided a replacement crank. Nice work and it's runs REALLY well.   
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2022, 11:40:28 AM »
 The guys on FB didn't believe I talked to Kenny on the phone.
  I think it's got to be hard to field phone calls and keep those machines running. A tough business to be in for a small shop. I'm sending some pics and then planning a trip there.
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2022, 03:36:48 PM »
Kenny is one of the most accessible shop owners I've known.
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2022, 09:52:08 AM »
Kenny is one of the most accessible shop owners I've known.

I'd have to agree with that statement.  Even if he's busy at the moment you call, he'll get back with you as soon as possible.

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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2022, 12:13:59 PM »
  That's good to hear.
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2022, 05:31:45 PM »
I’ve had good luck getting Kenny on the phone.  If Susie answers, tell her George and Matt say Hi.

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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2022, 09:11:05 AM »
Ken takes his work and his customers rather personal, from my experience. He has had genuine concern for how my project turned out.

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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2022, 08:04:59 PM »
 Wow, check out the refurbished section on CycleX.
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2022, 12:53:22 AM »
 Any thoughts on billet versus forged pistons?
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2022, 06:58:22 AM »
Don, the only pistons tuners tend to stay away from are cast ones. This is worth a read mate if you are unsure.

https://auto.jepistons.com/blog/forged-versus-cast-pistons-whats-the-difference
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Re: CycleX 890 cc
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2022, 09:49:47 AM »
 Thanks for the link, I also found this after reading yours.
  https://auto.jepistons.com/blog/billet-versus-forged-pistons-whats-the-difference

 I read a snarky comment about cracks on a facebook post and wanted more info without possibly feeding a troll. It appears billet falls between cast and forged as far as strength goes. No harder than I run them, billet would probably be fine. I haven't hurt a cast piston yet myself. 

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