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A pair?Anybody see making popcorn?!?
Technically the only advantage is weight reduction. You still need a fork brace to help keep the fork tube parallel under stress and bumps. It is integral with the front fender.Cosmetically, it is a fashion fad to remove fenders. Nothing says the owner is a master customizer better than demonstrating the ability to remove parts from a bike. No fenders pretty much restricts actual operation to only fair whether days, unless the rider wears some sort of baggie style suits to ward off water, from rain, sprinklers, saliva, honey wagon spillage, road kill, and general road spooge, etc.Nothing says seasoned cafe racer better than having a stripe of road grime running down your back or gritting between your teeth. Chicks love that, as well as the smells of having your nose an inch from any road surface debris imaginable.All my bikes have fenders. And, the one I got with them stripped off I restored, as well as replacing the other dumb ass "racer-look alike mods" made to the bike.Cheers,
Quote from: TwoTired on February 26, 2012, 01:30:55 AMTechnically the only advantage is weight reduction. You still need a fork brace to help keep the fork tube parallel under stress and bumps. It is integral with the front fender.Cosmetically, it is a fashion fad to remove fenders. Nothing says the owner is a master customizer better than demonstrating the ability to remove parts from a bike. No fenders pretty much restricts actual operation to only fair whether days, unless the rider wears some sort of baggie style suits to ward off water, from rain, sprinklers, saliva, honey wagon spillage, road kill, and general road spooge, etc.Nothing says seasoned cafe racer better than having a stripe of road grime running down your back or gritting between your teeth. Chicks love that, as well as the smells of having your nose an inch from any road surface debris imaginable.All my bikes have fenders. And, the one I got with them stripped off I restored, as well as replacing the other dumb ass "racer-look alike mods" made to the bike.Cheers,What exactly is spooge and how did it get on the road ?
Quote from: 72 yellow on February 26, 2012, 11:27:14 AMQuote from: TwoTired on February 26, 2012, 01:30:55 AMTechnically the only advantage is weight reduction. You still need a fork brace to help keep the fork tube parallel under stress and bumps. It is integral with the front fender.Cosmetically, it is a fashion fad to remove fenders. Nothing says the owner is a master customizer better than demonstrating the ability to remove parts from a bike. No fenders pretty much restricts actual operation to only fair whether days, unless the rider wears some sort of baggie style suits to ward off water, from rain, sprinklers, saliva, honey wagon spillage, road kill, and general road spooge, etc.Nothing says seasoned cafe racer better than having a stripe of road grime running down your back or gritting between your teeth. Chicks love that, as well as the smells of having your nose an inch from any road surface debris imaginable.All my bikes have fenders. And, the one I got with them stripped off I restored, as well as replacing the other dumb ass "racer-look alike mods" made to the bike.Cheers,What exactly is spooge and how did it get on the road ?from the urban dictionary n. goopy or viscous substance similar in texture to cum v. to cause a goopy substance to end up on an item or person. That should be enough reason to keep the fenders on the bike.
Quote from: srust58 on February 26, 2012, 11:33:27 AMQuote from: 72 yellow on February 26, 2012, 11:27:14 AMQuote from: TwoTired on February 26, 2012, 01:30:55 AMTechnically the only advantage is weight reduction. You still need a fork brace to help keep the fork tube parallel under stress and bumps. It is integral with the front fender.Cosmetically, it is a fashion fad to remove fenders. Nothing says the owner is a master customizer better than demonstrating the ability to remove parts from a bike. No fenders pretty much restricts actual operation to only fair whether days, unless the rider wears some sort of baggie style suits to ward off water, from rain, sprinklers, saliva, honey wagon spillage, road kill, and general road spooge, etc.Nothing says seasoned cafe racer better than having a stripe of road grime running down your back or gritting between your teeth. Chicks love that, as well as the smells of having your nose an inch from any road surface debris imaginable.All my bikes have fenders. And, the one I got with them stripped off I restored, as well as replacing the other dumb ass "racer-look alike mods" made to the bike.Cheers,What exactly is spooge and how did it get on the road ?from the urban dictionary n. goopy or viscous substance similar in texture to cum v. to cause a goopy substance to end up on an item or person. That should be enough reason to keep the fenders on the bike. So should I decontaminate to bike before I put it in the garage?
Cool, link me to some hard facts about the stock brace. Not some irrelevant analogy or he said she said stuff. If the stock brace was what you say it is, why are there no aftermarket ones similar? This thing has no rigidity, and that's not why it works. Symbiosis, yes, stack 5 braces together then it will do something. Like I said link me to some hard facts, studies, etc. I will admit when I'm wrong but don't come on here spouting out stuff just because it's attune to your style. And let me again add I never said a brace wasn't needed, I'm saying the front fender is just a fender.
QuoteDoubts based on what mechanical principle or knowledge?The fender is rubber mounted to one fork leg so it isn't that structured to remove minor postition shifting between the two fork legs. Any flex or give past the clearance of the steel/aluminum trubes is between the clamped lower tree and the clamped axle. So I too have my doubts as to whether the rubber compresses fully within the clearance or play of lowers/fork tubes to actually take advantage of fender structure. In theory it adds something but I doubt it matters being so small. Yea, I too have my doubts.
Doubts based on what mechanical principle or knowledge?
If you cant trust a Honda engineering division, who can you trust?
Quote from: rotortiller on February 26, 2012, 05:39:16 PMQuoteDoubts based on what mechanical principle or knowledge?The fender is rubber mounted to one fork leg so it isn't that structured to remove minor postition shifting between the two fork legs. Any flex or give past the clearance of the steel/aluminum trubes is between the clamped lower tree and the clamped axle. So I too have my doubts as to whether the rubber compresses fully within the clearance or play of lowers/fork tubes to actually take advantage of fender structure. In theory it adds something but I doubt it matters being so small. Yea, I too have my doubts.I actually did do some tests on the effectiveness of the rubber mounted stock "fork brace" the last time this subject turned into a popcorn-fest, and found it to be essentially worthless. By removing the rubber grommets, and sandwiching the FENDER MOUNT with washers, it stiffened up the resistance to twisting by 20%, as I recall. A real fork brace was worth 80%, based on the same test methodology.
Quote from: 72 yellow on February 26, 2012, 11:44:27 AMQuote from: srust58 on February 26, 2012, 11:33:27 AMQuote from: 72 yellow on February 26, 2012, 11:27:14 AMQuote from: TwoTired on February 26, 2012, 01:30:55 AMTechnically the only advantage is weight reduction. You still need a fork brace to help keep the fork tube parallel under stress and bumps. It is integral with the front fender.Cosmetically, it is a fashion fad to remove fenders. Nothing says the owner is a master customizer better than demonstrating the ability to remove parts from a bike. No fenders pretty much restricts actual operation to only fair whether days, unless the rider wears some sort of baggie style suits to ward off water, from rain, sprinklers, saliva, honey wagon spillage, road kill, and general road spooge, etc.Nothing says seasoned cafe racer better than having a stripe of road grime running down your back or gritting between your teeth. Chicks love that, as well as the smells of having your nose an inch from any road surface debris imaginable.All my bikes have fenders. And, the one I got with them stripped off I restored, as well as replacing the other dumb ass "racer-look alike mods" made to the bike.Cheers,What exactly is spooge and how did it get on the road ?from the urban dictionary n. goopy or viscous substance similar in texture to cum v. to cause a goopy substance to end up on an item or person. That should be enough reason to keep the fenders on the bike. So should I decontaminate to bike before I put it in the garage?Depends on which parts of the bike you wish to fondle. I estimate the fenders (excluding the fork brace) are to help keep the rider clean of roadway substances. Bits of bike that are incidentally kept clean is just an added bonus. If your bike drips in the garage, you could use a catch pan rather than cleaning it before garage entry.
[quote The fact that Honda decided it could live with rubber mounts may indicate something....]
