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Offline Blackhole

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Mounting a Tire help
« on: March 24, 2012, 05:24:19 PM »
I mounted a Duro 3.00 H18 tire on the front rim of my CB350F and I just can't seem to get the hop out of it.  It is only in one place but if I move the tire it will move as well but it could be in another spot on the tire so I don't believe a belt is broken.  It almost seems as if the tire is too big and when inflated it pushes the tire away from the rim more on one side.  The rim is running true as I have a stand and checked.  Could it be the innertube?  This is my first tire mounting other then the rear tire and that was fine, so any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 05:30:06 PM »
Try letting a lot of pressure out of the tyre and rolling it around for a bit. Pump it up to normal and see what that's like.
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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 05:48:48 PM »
I have tried that  as well as moving the tire to different spots on the rim.  I even put about twenty miles on it but it made me a little nervous.  I even tried putting around sixty five pounds in the tire to try and "seat" it  while it was on the stand without any luck.  If I can't figure it out I will have to take it somewhere and that takes all the fun out of it.  At this point I almost hope it is a bad tire but I don't know if Dennis Kirk would take it back as I have had it for five months....but it only has those twenty miles on it.  I had a hard time finding a tire for the front as it was.

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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2012, 05:53:51 PM »
I had a problem once when a nut was left on the tube valve on the inside of the rim. Took me ages to find that problem.
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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 06:03:01 PM »
Lube it up man! somethings you cant do without lube!
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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 06:12:22 AM »
The tube? The bead? What exactly should I lube up and why? Remember this is my first tire so be gentle :)


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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 06:49:29 AM »
Couple of things.  As mentioned look around the tire and rim area to make sure that the bead is even all the way around and that the tube also isn't pinched. There should be a line on the tire to visually check. Spin the tire on the centerstand a few times and mark a reference point to see if it is way out of balanace.
  On a side note I in the past bought some Duro tires from American Tire I think it was, in AZ , and noticed on another occasion they no longer sold them. Super great service there and when I contacted them was told they had dropped the line because of a quality control problem with the tires being out of round etc. So there is a possibility you may  have a knackered new tire.

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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 06:59:18 AM »
Before I try to put the second bead into the rim I air up the tube to make sure the tube is not twisted. I lube the bead area of the tire.  That is where the tire mounts to the rim.  Lube on the rim helps, too.  You can buy tire lube, but I use dish soap and water with the mix feeling very slippery. Then you use air pressure like you trued before.  Be sure to wash off the lube.  Look at the tire where it meets the rim and it should be even all the way around.  Even well known tires can have a cord break, but that is rare.
Good luck and tell us how it goes.
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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 07:27:30 AM »
@blackhole,  lube it all up. especially the beads of the tire,  dont be too sloppy about it, but definately dont skimp.  getting the tube slippy helps too.  i have changed a lot of tires, mostly car and truck, but motorcycles too.  if you dont use lube(dish soap works good), then it gets real tough.   i suggest watching some youtube videos.
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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 07:39:48 AM »
Before I try to put the second bead into the rim I air up the tube to make sure the tube is not twisted. I lube the bead area of the tire.  That is where the tire mounts to the rim.  Lube on the rim helps, too.  You can buy tire lube, but I use dish soap and water with the mix feeling very slippery. Then you use air pressure like you trued before.  Be sure to wash off the lube.  Look at the tire where it meets the rim and it should be even all the way around.  Even well known tires can have a cord break, but that is rare.
Good luck and tell us how it goes.
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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2012, 09:17:34 AM »
Well I went out and removed the tire again.  I checked the tube for any twists and found that there was a nut on the inside of the stem. Everything else checked out OK so I put the tire back on.  After some playing around with it I still have just over a 1/6th hop but that is a lot better then before.  I left the cone shaped washer on the inside of the stem and now wonder if it would be OK to remove it as that might give me just about a 1/6th or more.  Is that washer needed on the tube or is a 1/6th + hop going to be fine?

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Re: Mounting a Tire help
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2012, 08:38:15 AM »
That cone shaped washer and only one nut to hold it on are all you'll need to keep the air pressure in the tube; try to be sure that you're tube isn't "bunching up" inside the tire when you lever that tire on there. It helps to have the tube lightly inflated and then put Talcum Powder on the inside of the tire and all around the tube...clean them both up real good before you apply that.
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