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Offline 750fchop

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lightened alternator
« on: December 07, 2012, 07:51:57 PM »
  Aloha; I'm considering a lightened alternator for my 77F. I know that Honda lightened it from the early to the late, but the one Cyclex sells is another pound lighter than mine (I think). Will there be any noticeable difference in throttle response or should I save my money? 

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Re: lightened alternator
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 06:00:53 AM »
OH DEFINATELY!!!    The throttle response is amazing fast because you have less cyclic weight to get spinning!!!


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Re: lightened alternator
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 06:12:27 AM »
should those exclamation points be trusted. . . :o

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 07:43:12 AM »
OH DEFINATELY!!!    The throttle response is amazing fast because you have less cyclic weight to get spinning!!!


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He's right tho. You will have less rotating mass so pulling from a stop will take more clutch and throttle work because you won't have the same inertia. How much it will change I'm not sure and don't have personal experience. Crisp, fast throttle response will be the reward for lightening the flywheel

If you know about old drag cars that's what they would do before any real clutch tech advances were made. A heavy ass flywheel would improve launch and 60' because the rotating mass acts like a cheater leverage



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Re: lightened alternator
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2012, 03:04:01 PM »
Basically same principal as having an 18" rear tire with a 140 width tire then changing to a 16" low sidewall tire. Less mass, less weight and smaller circumference to spin!


As they used say " TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT"


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Re: lightened alternator
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2012, 05:00:46 PM »
 Do you want to win..or lose.. Simple..
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Re: lightened alternator
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2012, 06:09:40 PM »
  Aloha; I'm considering a lightened alternator for my 77F. I know that Honda lightened it from the early to the late, but the one Cyclex sells is another pound lighter than mine (I think). Will there be any noticeable difference in throttle response or should I save my money? 

Eric
In my opinion, the early to late rotors make the most difference. Yes you will gain some more throttle response from the next step lighter. But weigh that against this: Buz Dynoman has told me that their experience is that too light (a lighter crank and rotor) is not good. You don't have any throw weight carrying the revs and when you drop the hammer. CB750 launch times are better with a little weight according to him.

If its just the rotor you're talking about and not the crank too, then this isn't so true.

Next the lighter weight makes it harder to shift smoothly (personal experience) as the engine is twitchy due to the throttle response. This is tiring in stop and go traffic. Coming off the line slowly from a dead stop requires more throttle and slipping of the clutch. Idling around is jerky. So how is the bike going to be used? If its basically a street bike, I'd keep some weight.

Mine was and is as light as can be, crank and rotor, and it was and is an 888cc street bike. With all the side effects mentioned. And I really like it. One mitigating factor i have is more displacement calms the twitchiness down. On a stock displacement, the slow speed twitchiness will be pronounced.
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Re: lightened alternator
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2012, 06:15:38 PM »
 Just , A get a  good clutch
 And B learn to slip. It..end of problem..
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Re: lightened alternator
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2012, 06:21:36 PM »
I'm all for the lightened rotor and crank,  I run both in my street 836.  Revs nice and I have not drivability issues with it.  I have the lightened rotor from Cycle X and a crank from APE.
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Re: lightened alternator
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2012, 08:02:29 PM »
Just for the record, a late-model 750 rotor, less starter clutch, weighs 2079 grams (4.583 pounds).
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