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I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« on: August 22, 2013, 04:19:20 PM »
Here is the item I bought. The deal ended with buy it now last Tuesday Aug 13, 2013. I've been waiting for a tracking number or something. I sent the dude two messages and got nothing. Today was the last day that is was supposed to be shipped to me. So I started looking into the seller:

Here is my ad I bought from:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321182465921?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Looking into his "100%" Positive feedback I found this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-honda-cb550-Gas-Tank-Petrol-Tank-CB550-CB-550-/321164945984

If he knew he already sold the tank why did he take the funds out of my PAYPAL account? Also I found a negative review saying the item was bought never was received. How does someone get 100% with only 167 transactions and a recent negative review?

I have his name and hometown. I will wait til next week before trying to get my money back from PAYPAL and smearing his name as a crappy seller if I don't hear something by then.



            
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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 04:21:38 PM »
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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 05:41:53 PM »
Time to Brimmer?   Eric and Sean live in Kazoo....
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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 05:54:26 PM »
The previous posting does say the item was relisted, or one like it.  It is possible to maintain 100% if there was a problem but both seller and buyer agree to withdraw the negative comment(I had that happen once, a buyer went straight to neg. feedback without contacting me to give me an opportunity to rectify the problem...Larry

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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 06:25:46 PM »
The 100% comes from 2 positive feedbacks as seller and the rest as buyer over the last 12 months - pretty sad! A lot of the eBay scammers, rookies, and low volume sellers don't reply to messages and don't post their items have been shipped even when they have. If you paid with PayPal you can get your money back. It's just a pain in the ass when you have to deal with one of the eBay scumbags. You may still receive it but DO NOT let the deadline pass for filing a claim through eBay.

I have recently had 2 different raw deals on eBay. One was a genuine scam that eBay actually helped me sniff out and I got an education but no loss. The other one was a sandcast bike purchased late June and I am still dealing with it. I will try to post the details of both this weekend so my SOHC Forum Brothers and Sisters can avoid same.

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No matter how much a seller whines to you about the PayPal fees,
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS pay for eBay items through one of their APPROVED electronic payment methods if you want to be protected.
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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 09:28:00 PM »
Momo I got to that ad via his feedback. the buyer said he got the tank and was happy with it. This was back in July. The seller posted it again in August when I bought it. I'll give the guy until next week to either send the tank or my money back.

I did use PAYPAL and hopefully they will cover this but I was hoping for a freakin' tank. Its pretty hard finding a 75 - 76 550F tank in decent shape.
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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2013, 09:36:47 PM »
I did use PAYPAL and hopefully they will cover this but I was hoping for a freakin' tank. Its pretty hard finding a 75 - 76 550F tank in decent shape.

PayPal offers excellent buyer protection.
Launch a dispute immediately.
Escalate to a claim if you do not get answers.
PayPal will secure the funds until the claim is settled.
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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2013, 09:53:49 PM »
I did use PAYPAL and hopefully they will cover this but I was hoping for a freakin' tank. Its pretty hard finding a 75 - 76 550F tank in decent shape.

PayPal offers excellent buyer protection.
Launch a dispute immediately.
Escalate to a claim if you do not get answers.
PayPal will secure the funds until the claim is settled.

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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 04:06:59 AM »
Time to Brimmer?   Eric and Sean live in Kazoo....
Eric from Kazoo reporting for duty. PM me some details like name or address if things don't work out, heck maybe I know them.

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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 04:25:17 AM »
I've bought more than a few items off ebay where the seller dragged their feet getting it in the mail as well as never posting that it had been shipped. Recently I've had a couple purchases where not only was I never notified that it had been shipped but never given a tracking # either even though the package clearly had a tracking # on it when it arrived.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 08:47:15 AM »
I've bought more than a few items off ebay where the seller dragged their feet getting it in the mail as well as never posting that it had been shipped. Recently I've had a couple purchases where not only was I never notified that it had been shipped but never given a tracking # either even though the package clearly had a tracking # on it when it arrived.

I have too bailgang that's why I'm waiting until next week. Thanks ekpent I'll keep you posted. Its just the fact that the guy had positive feedback on the same tank that makes me suspicious. But I will have a bit of patience before launching some "vengence". he has a linkedin account. Could flood it with suggestions that he "make things right". We will see.... 8)
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2013, 08:51:50 AM »
Here's a test for POR-15.......... ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Honda-CB550-Super-Sport-CB-550-FOUR-CB550ss-H390-1-gas-fuel-petrol-tank-/230830073906?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35be8b6832

Thanks Terry I already have one of those, as of yesterday I am going forward on fixing. Got it stripped of paint and a bad Kreem job  ::). Next step is to bondo a couple of small dents, derust the inside, add liner and paint it.
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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2013, 08:52:36 AM »
Slobber a little bubble gum and JB in that thing and She's good as new.   ;D

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2013, 04:02:48 PM »
That'll buff right out!
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2013, 08:21:55 PM »
A friend bought one off E-bay for a 750 yammy it was wrecked on the side not shown.
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2013, 02:14:37 AM »
I've got a beautiful F2 tank hanging up in my garage Don. I bought it from a seller in New York who described it as being in "excellent condition" with no dents, but it had been professionally resprayed.

As I was worried about it being damaged in transit, I asked the seller to insure it, which he said he did, and charged me any extra 30 bucks for insurance. When the box arrived, there was a boot sized hole in the box, and not surprisingly, a corresponding dent in the tank, courtesy of either USPS or Aussie Post.

I asked the seller to make an insurance claim, which he said that he would, but I never heard from him again, so I surmised that he'd either made the claim and kept the proceeds, or (more likely) never insured it in the first place.

I'd intended to paint it anyway, but was pissed when I discovered a fair amount of bondo under the old paint. I removed all the paint and bondo, only to discover two holes that had been punched into the tank to pull a dent out, then filled with bondo. Uh-oh.......

I repaired the dents, then brazed the holes, then filled and repainted the tank, and applied new replica F2 decals. It looked lovely. A few months later, I noticed a row of little "blisters" under the paint, and when I pricked one with a pin, gas ran out. Poop.

Luckily, Tim (KGhost) in Texas sent me a nice original paint F3 tank that was virtually rust and dent free, that I repainted, and it was still in excellent shape when I sold it several years afterwards. Cheers, Terry. ;D 
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2013, 11:12:25 AM »
I got a message from the guy that said he would refund all my money and apologized for it. I haven't seen the money yet but at least he comunicated.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2013, 02:45:50 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2013, 01:35:39 PM »
Still no refund. there is a bunch of stuff on this guy on the interwebs and he seems like the stable family man type. I am surprided he was not a member here as he had a CB400F for restoration. I don't think he is an intentional schyster. I think he's just sloppy when it comes to bidness. But I will give him until next Monday then file with PAYPAL and EBAY.  I can always call his work and ask "FO MY MONEY!"

I've got his:

Name
address
Street picture of his house
phone number
work name and address
Pinterest
Linkedin
Facebook
Picture of him and his family
Personal blog
Etc.

Like I said I don't think its intentional just sloppy. He wouldn't get away with being a ripoff artist.
"Just because you flush a boatload of money down the toilet, doesn't make the toilet worth more",  My Stepfather the Unknown Poet

1974 CB360T
1976 CB550K2 Resurrected
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2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie
2015 BMW F700GS
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Re: I think I just got taken on FLEECEBAY!
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2013, 01:44:39 PM »
Don't get yourself worked up about this guy or his motives, just file a dispute with Paypal NOW! The grievance will be cancelled when his refund is issued. Time is of the essence here, plus it seems that you're fixating a bit too much on this a$$hat.

Still no refund. there is a bunch of stuff on this guy on the interwebs and he seems like the stable family man type. I am surprided he was not a member here as he had a CB400F for restoration. I don't think he is an intentional schyster. I think he's just sloppy when it comes to bidness. But I will give him until next Monday then file with PAYPAL and EBAY.  I can always call his work and ask "FO MY MONEY!"

I've got his:

Name
address
Street picture of his house
phone number
work name and address
Pinterest
Linkedin
Facebook
Picture of him and his family
Personal blog
Etc.

Like I said I don't think its intentional just sloppy. He wouldn't get away with being a ripoff artist.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2013, 08:15:52 AM »
Thanks funjimmy. Not really fixted on this as much as getting ripped off. It took my 2 minutes to come up with all his info by googling his name. Just in case....
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1976 CB550K2 Resurrected
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1979 CX500 VG "HONDA-GUZZI"
2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie
2015 BMW F700GS
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2014, 03:17:14 PM »
So, did you get your money back or not?
Paypal and eBay offer buyer protection for just this reason.
Well, did you?
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