Topic: Handlebar Identification Question

[Travis..]

Photo Courtesy of SKTP:

EDIT: Better question: Can anyone identify these bars from a glance? They seem to be low but have nice width. Thanks!

[flybox1]

those dont look like euro bars. 
picture is my 350F after i put euro bars on. 
they look like they have a little more rise, and are narrower than what you've pictured above

[lucky]

Photo Courtesy of SKTP:
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Can anyone identify if these are Superbike Bars or European? I know at the moment there's a Riding Ergonomics thread I just don't want to hi-jack it. I see a lot of info about Superbike Bars, if these are European can any weigh in on the pros/cons of the bar type?

Eurobars/Superbike bars basically the same thing really.
If you just have to have the "European" expect to pay double or triple.

Cycle-x has two styles.
Super Bike and Daytona bars. Black or chrome.

$23.95  How do you beat that?

[Travis..]

Thanks for the picture Flybox! That helped me rule out Euro's as that was my first assumption; I didn't know anything about them. Also Lucky thank you for pointing out the similarities of Euro's and Superbike bars.

Anyone have a guess at these? Hopefully SKTP will see this thread!

[Geeto67]

superbike bars have less pullback than daytona bars. Their names actually tell you why: Superbike bars were devloped for AMA superbike classes where you needed the leverage to hustle around big honking superbikes like DOHC cb750/900F's, KZ900s/1000s, GS 1000s etc. If you look at the class from 75-78 you see a lot of twins (guzzi, BMW etc) and clipons (yoshimura's 1977-78 GS1000), but by 1980 they almost all are using superbike bend bars (eg. Eddie Lawson Kwaker, Freddie Spencer CB900F, etc). It was the short courses esp that needed the leverage.

Daytona is not a short course (though it does have some tight twisties in the infield) so the extra pullback was to allow the rider to tuck better for that long banked back straight.


I bought these a while ago from this seller and have them on my R80 BMW. They are the exact same bend on my cb750K but I got those from a different source. They are the cheapest I could find in this bend and the quality is excellent. I actually have the auction in my watch page for when I need a set:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180748533901?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_253wt_821

[LesterPiglet]

They could be Eurobars in the pic.
If you blow it up you can see the rider has them tilted rearwards. The bend at the clamps on my bike is almost vertical.

Just nipped out and took some pics.

[Travis..]

Geeto, Thanks for the link. Are these bars going to be comfortable / effective with a stock peg placement?

(To help they would be going on my CB750 K6; I am 6'2", 185 LB, long arms and long legs.)

[Geeto67]

for comparison here are pics of my 75 750k with superbike bars. I highly recommend them for anybody with a 750 who plans on riding in a spirited fashion but doesn't want the full racer tuck:

[Geeto67]

Geeto, Thanks for the link. Are these bars going to be comfortable / effective with a stock peg placement?

(To help they would be going on my CB750 K6; I am 6'2", 185 LB, long arms and long legs.)

I think so. I'm 6'5" and have long arms as well. I have put over 50K on that bike, most of those miles with those bars you see in my previous posts. I have done all day rides with no ill effects, and they are low enough and provide enough leverage that when I am hustling the bike around I can change direction a lot easier. I've had cb750s with clubmans, clipons, drag bars, cb400F bars, and all manner of "racing" bars and I like these the best - anything lower and narrower makes the steering feel slower.

I am trying to find pics of the beemer with the same bars. I don't have the same mileage on the BMW as the honda as I just bought it earlier this year, but it is comfy for what little I have ridden it.

I just remembered that those superbike bars on the 750 came from Parts unlimited. I bought them so long ago it took me a minute to remember where they came from. I remember comparing the ebay bars to the PU bars and they were the same.

[Geeto67]

I just realized I like these bars so much I have them on nearly ever bike I owned.

In 1" bend on my ironhead:




on the 1979 DOHC I gave to my brother:




on my old daily rider 1977 GS 750 that I sold right before I moved to ohio:





and I just swapped the drag bar on my dunstall kit 78 750 to these custom clipons:





still looking for pics of the beemer. BTW, I have no affiliation with the seller. I just really like these bars.

[lucky]

WOW...6'5", you need something comfortable like my Yamaha V Star 1100.

[Geeto67]

WOW...6'5", you need something comfortable like my Yamaha V Star 1100.

not really a fan. I've had big bikes including an early wing, a cbx prolink, and a cb1100f but I am not a "crusier" guy. I have been riding my cb750 for a long time now and it fits me great the way it is. I used to ride my father's 97 supercharged fat boy all the time and the frustration I had with that is how often I would scrape things and run out of road. I will say this, I rode a borrowed electrica glide up 101 for my 1 year anniversary and it was pretty nice. for bigger guys I think those big honking superbikes from the late 70's early 80's are ideal. my Gs750 was one of the best bikes I ever owned - it did everything as good or slightly better than my cb750. If i buy another bike in the next two years it is going to be a tonti guzzi or a bevel duc.

But those big heavy sleds, not really for me. I'm like that with cars too, never got into the led sled/lowrider thing either, always muscle cars (Chevelle, GTO, Buick GS) and german Gt cars (BMW E30 vert, BMW e34 M5, Audi A3). Had a friend who was big into 50's mercs and caddys and such, it was nice to be a passenger but romping the loud pedal and then waiting for that ship to pull out of port would have pissed me off.

To the tall guys out there, Always remember: Dan Gurney was 6'4". you don't need to be a jockey to like performance. Marco Simoncelli was 6'1 (i think), Ruben Xaus is 6'2".

[jerry h]

Has anyone used the David Silver Euro K2 bars?  Apparently the low bars were an european option not available here. 








http://www.davidsilverspares.com/CB750K2-FOUR-1972/part_188998/

[Geeto67]

seems like a lot of money for a bar shape you can get for $20 off the internet. DSS is an excellent company but if you are going to pay euro prices for stuff it should be for stuff you can't get here.

Although being drilled for internal wiring is a nice feature.

I converted my controls to external wiring long ago, but if you really needed internal wiring I have drilled my own bars in the past, it isn't that hard. A drill a couple of files and if you are anal like me a couple of oval gromets (to keep the edges from sawing through your wiring harness).

[LesterPiglet]

Has anyone used the David Silver Euro K2 bars?  Apparently the low bars were an european option not available here?

No, not as such. See my last post further up the page.

[Dream750]

Has anyone used the David Silver Euro K2 bars?  Apparently the low bars were an european option not available here.

The 750 K1/K2 factory euro bars are the real deal, PN: 53100-300-610 and they have been discontinued. I have used those repop DSS bars PN: 53100-300-610P in the past and found them to be identical to my original 750 K1/K2 euro bars. If it’s important to you, they have the correct dimensions, knurls, switch pin holes and wiring cutouts that the cheap copies are usually missing. These are their dimensions:

Width: 29.50” or 748 mm
Center: 4.90” or 125 mm
Rise: 2.99” or 76 mm
Pullback: 3.81” or 97 mm

If you are fussy about a factory correct fit and look, these are the 750 K1/K2 euro bar part numbers that Honda used as they are shorter than their USA K1/K2 counterparts using stock bars:

-Clutch cable (22870-341-610) superseded to: 22870-426-610
-Throttle cable “A” 17910-341-611
-Throttle cable “B” 17920-341-611 
-Brake hose “B” (45126-300-611) superseded to: 45126-300-612

 * These part numbers are not found in the American Honda parts system, I purchased mine from DSS (UK)

* The upper brake hose “B” is longer available and will have to be located or made, the total length needed is 12-1/2”

Approximate riding position with the lower euro/superbike bars:

[Black 750K8]

Travis
 You may be over thinking this. Try this sit on the bike hold your arms out where you want the grips to be lean over the way you want and get a friend to measure width,rise,pull back and center with. Then look for bars that match those measurements.