Author Topic: Seriously, this is getting out of hand. (Read 4456 times)

sparty · « **on:** August 28, 2006, 06:02:13 PM »

This guy is selling a CB. First look at the year and model, then look at the engine size, then look at the starting/asking price. This seller has no idea. It should be mint/stock original for that price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Honda-CB754_W0QQitemZ160023027824QQihZ006QQcategoryZ80647QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Sparty

Rocking-M · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2006, 06:07:18 PM »

At least no one has been bit yet

winston · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2006, 06:40:15 PM »

What's a 74 Triumph Bonneville going for? (more)

A Norton Commando 750? (more)

An early Kawi KZ900? (more)

Arguably, the Honda CB750 is a more important bike in the history of the industry.

And the Honda would be the most reliable of the bunch, generally speaking.

I don't think things are out of hand at all...frankly, I'm surprised more people aren't snapping up vintage Hondas as a profit-making hobby...I know there's enough vintage working Hondas around my way that sell for $200-$500 Canuckibux that it's crossed my mind.

I collect/buy/sell Marshall amps, Gibson and Fender guitars as a way to put good quality gear in the hands of my kids, neices and nephews (oh yeah...and in my hands too) and I know that there's waaaaay more old working Hondas sitting around at bargain prices than there are barn-find Marshall JCM 800's.

bill440cars · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2006, 07:02:24 PM »

One Day, and that might not be too far off, the prices are going to be up to where we're going to wonder what happened. Some sellers on ebay are already acting like they are selling gold. So, let's don't go broadcasting about how valuable they should be. Look at the VW Bug. Used to be able too pick them up real cheap and build them on a tight budget, not now. The old Hondas could be next.

Uncle Ernie · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2006, 08:10:17 PM »

It's his first time on Ebay. It may take him some time to realize you don't start bidding that high and you need good pictures.
On the other hand, it could be the divorce court said he has to sell...

Dave K · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2006, 08:24:26 PM »

Oh, but look how original it is? Back wheel, forks, exhaust, repaint, these are things I see without and studying. Not that they have to be all original, but it usually will get the highest price.

winston · « **Reply #6 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:01:08 AM »

Quote from: bill440cars on August 28, 2006, 07:02:24 PM

One Day, and that might not be too far off, the prices are going to be up to where we're going to wonder what happened. Some sellers on ebay are already acting like they are selling gold. So, let's don't go broadcasting about how valuable they should be. Look at the VW Bug. Used to be able too pick them up real cheap and build them on a tight budget, not now. The old Hondas could be next.

Vintage K0 and K1 bikes are already as prized as a good Bonneville or Commando dollar-wise, and I think you'll see vintage Hondas in good shape appreciate in a fairly predictable way as the chopper/cruiser craze saturates the boomer generation and they go looking for something more old-school and more affordable as a second or vintage bike....the most expensive K2 through K8 750s in restored condition are still barely half the price of a new Honda ACE 750, after all, and a fraction the price of a new Victory 8 Ball or any of the other "affordable" faux choppers.

kuyarico · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:35:19 AM »

Quote from: Rocking-M on August 28, 2006, 06:07:18 PM

At least no one has been bit yet

And I doubt anyone will.

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #8 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:45:45 AM »

Quote from: kuyarico on August 29, 2006, 06:35:19 AM

Quote from: Rocking-M on August 28, 2006, 06:07:18 PM
At least no one has been bit yet

And I doubt anyone will.

Good prediction, no bids and the auction is over.

siter81 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2006, 09:11:42 AM »

Darn it, I waited too long to bid.I should have bid right away.I thought i may have gotten outbid if i had waited?

Siter81

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2006, 09:48:45 AM »

Quote from: winston on August 29, 2006, 06:01:08 AM

Vintage K0 and K1 bikes are already as prized as a good Bonneville or Commando dollar-wise

This really pisses me off since the only CB750 that turns me on is the K0. The earlier the better, but I'll probably wind up with a Die-Cast for a rider. With all the original K0 parts of course!

Quote from: winston on August 28, 2006, 06:40:15 PM

What's a 74 Triumph Bonneville going for? (more)

A Norton Commando 750? (more)

An early Kawi KZ900? (more)

Arguably, the Honda CB750 is a more important bike in the history of the industry.

And the Honda would be the most reliable of the bunch, generally speaking.

I don't think things are out of hand at all...frankly, I'm surprised more people aren't snapping up vintage Hondas as a profit-making hobby...I know there's enough vintage working Hondas around my way that sell for $200-$500 Canuckibux that it's crossed my mind.

I collect/buy/sell Marshall amps, Gibson and Fender guitars as a way to put good quality gear in the hands of my kids, neices and nephews (oh yeah...and in my hands too) and I know that there's waaaaay more old working Hondas sitting around at bargain prices than there are barn-find Marshall JCM 800's.

The writing IS on the wall. Get 'em while you can because soon, they will be totally unaffordable to the average guy.

Regarding Guitar amps: I've been looking for a nice condition , (yet affordable) Marshall JMP Mark II Super-Lead 100w like Johnny Ramone had. Difficult, as you can imagine.

nickjtc · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2006, 10:20:07 AM »

As long as there is demand for old Hondas in countries where their own bikes are getting very scarce, the value of our bikes will slowly creep up. I've said it before, if you have a complete, original, machine with everything on it that was there when it came from the factory, you can send it to Europe and get 'pounds for dollars'.

sparty · « **Reply #12 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:45:52 AM »

Quote from: winston on August 28, 2006, 06:40:15 PM

What's a 74 Triumph Bonneville going for? (more)

A Norton Commando 750? (more)

An early Kawi KZ900? (more)

Arguably, the Honda CB750 is a more important bike in the history of the industry.

And the Honda would be the most reliable of the bunch, generally speaking.

I don't think things are out of hand at all...frankly, I'm surprised more people aren't snapping up vintage Hondas as a profit-making hobby...I know there's enough vintage working Hondas around my way that sell for $200-$500 Canuckibux that it's crossed my mind.

I collect/buy/sell Marshall amps, Gibson and Fender guitars as a way to put good quality gear in the hands of my kids, neices and nephews (oh yeah...and in my hands too) and I know that there's waaaaay more old working Hondas sitting around at bargain prices than there are barn-find Marshall JCM 800's.

Winston,

For a bike in that condition it is.

Sparty

Chris Schneiter · « **Reply #13 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:59:26 AM »

I don't think it's that unreasonable! It's ONLY $5000.00 more than I paid for mine, and mine didn't need carb work!

sparty · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2006, 12:50:55 PM »

Quote from: ces on August 29, 2006, 11:59:26 AM

I don't think it's that unreasonable! It's ONLY $5000.00 more than I paid for mine, and mine didn't need carb work!

EXACTLY!

tramp · « **Reply #15 on:** August 29, 2006, 04:03:34 PM »

dealer out by me had one all stock for 2500

sparty · « **Reply #16 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:49:39 AM »

A guy I know, who lives near Philly, was selling a cherry '71 CB750 all stock with 9K for $3500. I almost bought it, but...

I know that these bikes will grow in value, but they need to be stock, unmolested, and well maintained to grab the big money. My cafe' conversion will actually take away from its value, but I never intended to sell it for a profit or sell it at all. It makes me happy to ride something that I had a hand in creating.

Sparty

cmorgan47 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:56:43 AM »

Quote from: sparty on August 30, 2006, 10:49:39 AM

A guy I know, who lives near Philly, was selling a cherry '71 CB750 all stock with 9K for $3500. I almost bought it, but...

I know that these bikes will grow in value, but they need to be stock, unmolested, and well maintained to grab the big money. My cafe' conversion will actually take away from its value, but I never intended to sell it for a profit or sell it at all. It makes me happy to ride something that I had a hand in creating.

Sparty

agreed.

at the "dream cruise" i saw another guy on a 75 400, but his was _super stock_. seriously looked like he just bought it from the dealer. he can probably get a fair sum for it, and it made me realize that, now that i've started chopping mine, it'll never get much higher in value than the day it became a daily runner. which was, an improvement over the day i bought it.

that said, it also made me happy that it was so ratty when i got it. i wasn't afraid to take a socket set, some spray paint, and a die grinder to it and now it's really starting to take shape.

need to get the seat on it though. desperately.

winston · « **Reply #18 on:** August 30, 2006, 11:04:45 AM »

Quote

Winston,

For a bike in that condition it is.

Sparty

Well sure, agreed...I meant that generally speaking, vintage Hondas are probably undervalued.

Either that, or this forum is a collection of exceptionally sharp shoppers!

(probably both)

nickjtc · « **Reply #19 on:** August 30, 2006, 11:06:14 AM »

Quote from: winston on August 30, 2006, 11:04:45 AM

Either that, or this forum is a collection of exceptionally sharp shoppers!

"Econo-bikers"

sparty · « **Reply #20 on:** August 30, 2006, 11:28:02 AM »

Quote from: winston on August 30, 2006, 11:04:45 AM

Quote

Winston,

For a bike in that condition it is.

Sparty

Well sure, agreed...I meant that generally speaking, vintage Hondas are probably undervalued.

Either that, or this forum is a collection of exceptionally sharp shoppers!

(probably both)

I am not sure if they are undervalued. Their current average selling price is right where it should be considering the supply. There are thousands of CBs out there that are in fairly good condition.

If you were to chip away at the supply and keep the demand where it is, then I could rationalize 5k for a CB 750. However, if they were 5K, the membership of this forum would be considerably smaller. But, according to a thread that I started last month, many of us have put several grand into our bikes bringing our totals somewhere near 5k. I know I have. Then again, I have a 836cc conversion, cam, head work, 4 into 1 exhaust, etc.

Sparty

nickjtc · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2006, 11:30:04 AM »

As posted in 'bikes for sale':

http://www.johnmosseyrestorations.com/Bikes_for_sale.htm

Scroll down and have your medication handy. That's $18,750 for a K1!

dusterdude · « **Reply #22 on:** August 30, 2006, 12:57:32 PM »

Quote from: nickjtc on August 30, 2006, 11:30:04 AM

As posted in 'bikes for sale':

http://www.johnmosseyrestorations.com/Bikes_for_sale.htm

Scroll down and have your medication handy. That's $18,750 for a K1!

damn,ya`ll can have mine for 10 grand.

GroovieGhoulie · « **Reply #23 on:** August 30, 2006, 01:15:58 PM »

Quote from: nickjtc on August 30, 2006, 11:30:04 AM

As posted in 'bikes for sale':

http://www.johnmosseyrestorations.com/Bikes_for_sale.htm

Scroll down and have your medication handy. That's $18,750 for a K1!

The pic shows a K0, with MOST of the desirable superseded parts. It has some missing, but that's not too bad. I don't think it's worth more than 12-14K, evne totally restored. If it was a sandcast, it would approach 20K in that shape.

nickjtc · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2006, 01:27:31 PM »

Quote from: GroovieGhoulie on August 30, 2006, 01:15:58 PM

The pic shows a K0, with MOST of the desirable superseded parts. It has some missing, but that's not too bad. I don't think it's worth more than 12-14K, evne totally restored. If it was a sandcast, it would approach 20K in that shape.

Hey Groovie....so what are 'desirable parts' on a K0. Just curious. Thanks

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