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Offline lone*X

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Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« on: November 29, 2013, 01:44:15 PM »
New Harley "Street 750 and Street 500"  liquid cooled VT's.     I think the Shadows look cleaner, this is a bit cluttered up. 

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2013, 01:54:20 PM »
perfect for the new breed of yuppies?

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2013, 03:54:29 PM »
EXACTLY DAVE!!!
Now the Yuppies that can't afford 15K for a REAL Harley they can buy these and brag that they ride a Harley?????


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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 04:53:46 PM »
Harley is ripping off a Harley rip off they sued Honda to try to stop them from making. What a time to be alive. :o
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 06:05:47 PM »
i was just listening to a cleveland moto podcast from a couple years ago and they said some harley dealers were going to be selling korean made hyosungs. i wonder if that's what these are?
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2013, 06:08:35 PM »
i was just listening to a cleveland moto podcast from a couple years ago and they said some harley dealers were going to be selling korean made hyosungs. i wonder if that's what these are?
nope, but they are made in India
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2013, 10:13:46 PM »
EXACTLY DAVE!!!
Now the Yuppies that can't afford 15K for a REAL Harley they can buy these and brag that they ride a Harley?????


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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2013, 11:35:37 PM »
New HD = Hardly Desirable..... 8)
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2013, 12:08:40 AM »
its all the look and the scene man?no serious rider would be seen on one,i think they are aimed at the gay community?not that theres anything wrong with that?

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2013, 08:08:22 AM »
Rag on em all you want! But, the more 2 wheels on the road the better.
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 10:28:23 AM »
They look and sound a hell of a lot better than the Shadow did..
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2013, 08:05:56 PM »
The stated target market, the urban dweller that would ride city streets to work and do so in stop and go traffic actually fit the smaller water cooled bikes.  While I don't necessarily like the looks I have a feeling it will sell well in the urban areas, particularly in overseas markets where smaller bikes far outweigh our 1.5 to 2 liter behemoths.

Another video, this one with a close up look:
2014 Harley-Davidson Street 750 Walkaround - Debut at 2013 EICMA Milan Motorcycle Exibition
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 08:19:33 PM »
Notice it debuted in Milan and not here. It will be made in India and available for select markets in 2014. I'll put money on the USA not being one of those select markets. They had to build these psuedo-Harley's to compete in the world market or die a slow death.

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2013, 03:08:49 PM »
From HD's web page:
What is the target price for the Street?Pricing will vary by market and will be announced when the bike is available for retail sale in each market. In the U.S., the price range for these motorcycles will be between $6,700 and $7,500.

When will the new Street be available for purchase and where?In Q2 2014, the Harley-Davidson Street will be available in the U.S., Italy, Spain, Portugal and India. More detailed information regarding the new Harley-Davidson Street 750 and Street 500 availability in these markets will be announced in the coming months. We plan to expand to additional markets in 2015 and will announce timing and locations at a later date.

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2013, 03:13:07 PM »
Okay, I stand corrected. Now lets see if they are available here in their time frame of Apr.-Jun. '14'

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2013, 03:20:41 PM »
I can't see it doing too well in the UK. UK Harleyists want something the size and weight of a bus.
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2013, 03:22:31 PM »
I can't see it doing too well in the UK. UK Harleyists want something the size and weight of a bus.

Maybe that's why the UK is not a target market.

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2013, 03:23:56 PM »
We import any old sh1te. :)

'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2013, 05:01:58 PM »
The name isn't bad-ass enough.
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2013, 10:25:02 PM »
Actually, it's a very smart marketing ploy. Here in Oz we used to have a 250cc max capacity rule for learner-riders, but the rules were changed for much fairer max HP rating, which allows guys (and gals) to buy bigger first bikes that they don't necessarily have to sell to move on to a bigger capacity bike once they get their full license, like they did before.

LAMS (Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme) bikes give new riders a greater choice of bikes, but up until now, Harley Davidson has not had a bike that was LAMS approved, so the new 500 (The "Lamster" as I've decided it will be known) will be very attractive to new riders who don't want to buy a Jap bike, and will eventually move on to a larger Harley.   

The new Lamsters will be made in both the US and India, and it sucks that the Oz market will only get the Indian made version, and considering that the bikes will be so much cheaper to produce in India than they will be in the US, they should be considerably cheaper, but that won't be the case, they'll be around 30% more expensive in Oz than the US manufactured Lamsters will be in the US, and that sucks.

If I was a cashed up first time rider, I'd buy one, but I'd have to ditch that pipe and put something smaller and louder on it. I showed the youtube vid to both of my sons, and they both liked it, so if that's an indication of how well it'll be received in the "20-something" demographic, I think Harley will sell lots. Cheers, Terry. ;D 
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2013, 10:42:30 PM »
Harley has always excelled far more at selling a "Lifestyle" then engineering motorcycles...........

If I was a cashed up first time rider, I'd buy one, but I'd have to ditch that pipe and put something smaller and louder on it. I showed the youtube vid to both of my sons, and they both liked it, so if that's an indication of how well it'll be received in the "20-something" demographic, I think Harley will sell lots. Cheers, Terry. ;D 

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2013, 10:45:41 PM »
Harley has always excelled far more at selling a "Lifestyle" then engineering motorcycles...........

If I was a cashed up first time rider, I'd buy one, but I'd have to ditch that pipe and put something smaller and louder on it. I showed the youtube vid to both of my sons, and they both liked it, so if that's an indication of how well it'll be received in the "20-something" demographic, I think Harley will sell lots. Cheers, Terry. ;D 

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You mean the standard New Hipster Harley rider?

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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2013, 11:35:24 PM »
no, he probly means you
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2013, 11:37:21 PM »
Jesus #$%*ing christ...just build more xr1200's
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Re: Harley jumping into the Honda Shadow market it seems
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2013, 12:46:30 AM »
And XR 1000,s and 750,s.......
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