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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #75 on: May 11, 2014, 04:04:06 AM »
The thrill is still gone, but Im trying to be positive and keep a good attitude and tell myself it's all good. Hey I've got to do something to pay for my sohc4 habit ;D I worked from 8 to 5 yesterday, it was my Saturday to work in the rotation. Being a one man show one person can get stretched out pretty good at times on Saturday when every thing breaks loose at one time (techs,phones,and retail customers, etc. But they are planning on hiring another person to work the late shifts and to help out on Saturdays. I won't have to pull another Saturday for a month. Instead of getting paid for Saturdays the company give us Monday off the following week so we get a 3 day weekend once a month. Well starting tomorrow we are open till 9pm. So I won't get home until 9:30 or later this week. But the person who works the late shift doesn't come in until noon. So that gives you some time to get other stuff done before heading to work. It's all good right ;)
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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #76 on: May 11, 2014, 04:49:50 AM »
Use the time Cricket use it well.
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« Reply #77 on: May 11, 2014, 08:17:56 PM »
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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #78 on: May 12, 2014, 05:56:12 AM »
dhall57,

Starting to wonder if all these posts might be turning you into a bit of an optimist.......

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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #79 on: May 12, 2014, 06:20:18 AM »
I think you feel trapped. A lot of people I know including myself  have the same feeling. The funny thing is they all are in different jobs. Some are blue collar, and some are Lawyers, Doctors and Engineers.  The “Thrill is Gone” seems to be common theme.   I am not sure if it is the new business culture, our expectations, or we are just tired from working most of our lives. I have been sorting through this myself.  I do not have an answer.
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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #80 on: May 12, 2014, 07:46:40 AM »
Bobby I think that it's a combination of the "new business model" and the feeling when we were younger that we could conquer any thing if it pissed us off enough or intrigued us, now there's the realization it doesn't work that way any more, whether it every worked that way or not, I'm not sure, but at least every one thought it did. Now there's the hundred and one niggles that tend to make us look over our shoulders all the time and contribute to pushing every body into a narrow and confining way of life. (Niggles -who's listening, is that politically correct, have I turned off the, what will the neighbor's/family think, I paid that? I wonder if Ukraine/Syria/? is going to go up, what did the boss mean by that, you fill in the rest).
The world has gotten way too small for some of us. To many people not enough mountains.
Of course I could be full of #$%*, but it sure seems there is less freedom now than there was  30-40 years ago and after been told when you were growing up that you were the new generation and were progressing (getting better) it's turned out maybe not so much.
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As an addition maybe what I am trying to say is in this era the romance we all once felt is gone and the world feels meaner now days.
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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #81 on: May 12, 2014, 02:15:43 PM »
Bobby I think that it's a combination of the "new business model" and the feeling when we were younger that we could conquer any thing if it pissed us off enough or intrigued us, now there's the realization it doesn't work that way any more, whether it every worked that way or not, I'm not sure, but at least every one thought it did. Now there's the hundred and one niggles that tend to make us look over our shoulders all the time and contribute to pushing every body into a narrow and confining way of life. (Niggles -who's listening, is that politically correct, have I turned off the, what will the neighbor's/family think, I paid that? I wonder if Ukraine/Syria/? is going to go up, what did the boss mean by that, you fill in the rest).
The world has gotten way too small for some of us. To many people not enough mountains.
Of course I could be full of #$%*, but it sure seems there is less freedom now than there was  30-40 years ago and after been told when you were growing up that you were the new generation and were progressing (getting better) it's turned out maybe not so much.
Bill the demon.
 
As an addition maybe what I am trying to say is in this era the romance we all once felt is gone and the world feels meaner now days.

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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #82 on: May 12, 2014, 03:22:16 PM »
Bobby I think that it's a combination of the "new business model" and the feeling when we were younger that we could conquer any thing if it pissed us off enough or intrigued us, now there's the realization it doesn't work that way any more, whether it every worked that way or not, I'm not sure, but at least every one thought it did. Now there's the hundred and one niggles that tend to make us look over our shoulders all the time and contribute to pushing every body into a narrow and confining way of life. (Niggles -who's listening, is that politically correct, have I turned off the, what will the neighbor's/family think, I paid that? I wonder if Ukraine/Syria/? is going to go up, what did the boss mean by that, you fill in the rest).
The world has gotten way too small for some of us. To many people not enough mountains.
Of course I could be full of #$%*, but it sure seems there is less freedom now than there was  30-40 years ago and after been told when you were growing up that you were the new generation and were progressing (getting better) it's turned out maybe not so much.
Bill the demon.
 
As an addition maybe what I am trying to say is in this era the romance we all once felt is gone and the world feels meaner now days.

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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #83 on: May 12, 2014, 05:35:22 PM »

The world has gotten way too small for some of us. To many people not enough mountains.
Of course I could be full of #$%*, but it sure seems there is less freedom now than there was  30-40 years ago and after been told when you were growing up that you were the new generation and were progressing (getting better) it's turned out maybe not so much.
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As an addition maybe what I am trying to say is in this era the romance we all once felt is gone and the world feels meaner now days.

Bill, I think you are right on the Money. The game has turned mean. I was watching Easy Rider last Month and Peter Fonda said "we blew it".  I think he was right.
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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #84 on: May 13, 2014, 04:10:05 AM »
I went to a classic Italian motorcycle club meeting on Saturday.  It was raining, but around 10 guys turned up.  Ages from late 40's to early 60's.  Mostly Moto Guzzi's and me on my Morini.  The cafe owner is a club member and in our age group.  He was so rapt that we turned up he wouldn't take our money for coffee & cake.  His staff of 20 somethings were very attentive, after all, we knew the boss!  It felt great to shoot the breeze with other men who have the same passion for old bikes.  I think this is what men our age need to do to forget all the modern day bulldust.

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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #85 on: May 13, 2014, 05:36:12 AM »
I retired from the Federal Bureau of Prisons aftre 25 years and I have not missed it for a moment.  I do miss having the authority to solve some local problems and to have real input into the decision making process.  When I retired I took a job at a University that is a bastion of liberalism.  I have little in common with my coworkers who do not seem to realize that we are running our country into the ground.  Any disagreement gets not dialog but accusations of racism or sexism or some other nebulous ism that has no basis in facts but in the way it makes you feel. I keep my views private. They offered me free tuition for my 3 step children and the last one graduates in December. When the three were in college together the benefit made this job worthwhile.   Now I would really like to do something different than helplessly shuffling paper in my current job.  Two problems exist that i am trying to overcome.  The 3 kids took until now to finish and I am 62 in September and at my age most employers do not look at the application beyond that point.  I would like to take a more responsible job here at the college but everything I am interested in requires an advanced degree even though the jobs are not technical or rocket science.  I will continue to try to find something different but I will stay here until I have another job.  In the past three months I was dignosed with bladder cancer which is now in remission  and I certainly feel trapped by life.  My wife is all that keeps me sane.  Anyone need a retired prison warden who was an industrial engineer and apparel factory manager 35 years ago?

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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #86 on: May 13, 2014, 08:02:24 AM »
Tell you what wardenN I'll go by a  lotto ticket for Friday and if I win the big one I'll
buy a Cl 215/415 get it converted to cargo instead of water bombing and form a company of Sohc-ers, there should be enough talent to keep it running, flying, and working, use it as gypsy cargo service in the tropics during the winter and in the summer the temperate zone hauling passengers, cargo, any thing that's not illegal or poisonous/toxic, that should provide enough challenge, fun and excitement for us old farts for a decade or so. There sounds like there is enough multi talented people here to organize, operate, and fly to the golden road of Samarkand or Xanadu or where ever old farseekers congregate.
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« Reply #87 on: May 13, 2014, 08:10:57 AM »
Some much  needed Adventure !  8)
You aint kiddin Man  ;D  That'll make us forget the phrase 'mid life c.....' even exists  ;)
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« Reply #88 on: May 13, 2014, 08:14:18 AM »
CL 215 is what Baloo was flying:

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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #89 on: May 13, 2014, 01:42:25 PM »
dhall57 Is it only realated to your work or is it that life in general is seems dull and grey for you?

Does any of your hobbies and life outside your work still interest and puts you on a better mood?

If not you could suffer from depression.
If you feel that it affects your ability to handle work then dont be afraid or ashamed to seek help.

I hope I didn't offend you. That was absolutely not my intention. Im only trying to be helpful and Im not a psychologist or a psychiatrist or trying to behave like one. Its just that from what you described It sounded to me like It could be something like a depression. 

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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #90 on: May 13, 2014, 05:55:57 PM »
I retired from the Federal Bureau of Prisons aftre 25 years and I have not missed it for a moment.  I do miss having the authority to solve some local problems and to have real input into the decision making process.  When I retired I took a job at a University that is a bastion of liberalism.  I have little in common with my coworkers who do not seem to realize that we are running our country into the ground.  Any disagreement gets not dialog but accusations of racism or sexism or some other nebulous ism that has no basis in facts but in the way it makes you feel. I keep my views private. They offered me free tuition for my 3 step children and the last one graduates in December. When the three were in college together the benefit made this job worthwhile.   Now I would really like to do something different than helplessly shuffling paper in my current job.  Two problems exist that i am trying to overcome.  The 3 kids took until now to finish and I am 62 in September and at my age most employers do not look at the application beyond that point.  I would like to take a more responsible job here at the college but everything I am interested in requires an advanced degree even though the jobs are not technical or rocket science.  I will continue to try to find something different but I will stay here until I have another job.  In the past three months I was dignosed with bladder cancer which is now in remission  and I certainly feel trapped by life.  My wife is all that keeps me sane.  Anyone need a retired prison warden who was an industrial engineer and apparel factory manager 35 years ago?
Warden, I am 63 and the sad part is the ageism that runs rampant makes you qualified for some minimum wage job.  When I first retired I was lucky and found a place where everyone was older so I kind of fit in. Now the place is getting younger and I suppose I am getting older also. A Warden of a Prison is a big job with a loot of moving parts, and what some youngster would find scary, you have probably seen a 100 times and know what to do. The kid looks like he has a sense of urgency, and you look too calm in the same situation which they misjudge as disinterest.

My financial advisor who has done well for us, wants me to hang on to 66 for my full Social Security. I know that I will need to get out of the House when the Wife retires. I love her, but 24/7 might get a bit much for me to take. ;)
I read an article that you really not only need a financial, but also a life plan after you stop full time working. Some people say they want to Travel. After you have gone everywhere you want to or can afford to go, then what?

 
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« Reply #91 on: May 14, 2014, 06:46:08 AM »
I retired after 30 years at General Motors. Never had a bunch of friends, but made do. Family has kept me sane. Hobby of working on old Hondas has helped me cope. Just wish I had a group of guys my age to just have coffee with two or three days a week.  I am lucky, because I was able to retire at 51. But new right knee, 3 back surgeries, one neck surgery, reminds me of work. My work sucked at the end, and only the thought of retirement keep me going.



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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #92 on: May 14, 2014, 07:45:35 AM »
Hey Bob. I understand what your saying. Like I said at the start of this thread Ive been at the same company and job since 1986. Just turned 57 in March, but unlike you cant even think of retirement. Other than my 401K company as no other retirement for employees. Always been kind of a loner and to myself. I've got what I consider one true friend that I've know for 45 years or so. We met in Jr. High and started riding our mini bikes together. He and his family live in another State so we see each other maybe once a year at Christmas time if we are lucky. Feel out of place and out of my comfort zone around a bunch of other people(non motorcycle people) But rather if it's one or a hundred motorcycle people(especially the classic and vintage bike crowd) like us I never get tired of their company. Can stand around and swap stories all day long ;D
A couple of hours ago took the GW to get some gas and check out the back brake. Met a very nice guy probably 10 years older than me. Came riding up a 75 or 76 Wing he made into a trike. He couldn't stop talking about how nice of GW I had. Had just paid someone almost $300 to work on his Wings carbs and now says it runs worse. The bike wont even idle, looks like carbs have never been off bike. If he did anything maybe sprayed some carb cleaner in them. Feel kind of sorry for him, this guy for sure ripped him off. I had pretty good luck rebuilding my carbs on my Wing so when I can find time going to see if I can help him get his carb issues straighten out to some degree ;)
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Re: The thrill is gone
« Reply #93 on: May 14, 2014, 09:08:17 AM »
   Are any of you guys a member of a local Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club or VJMC ?.  I joined up a few years ago with my local and most of the guys are old farts like myself with a few whippersnappers thrown in to make it fun. Do the occasional rides and get togethers. Made some new friends and contacts with similar interests. Rides out to local bike nights is also a great way to get out on the bike and socialize with new people. If you ride in on an old Honda people will want to talk to you  ;)   Might be something to check out.

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« Reply #94 on: May 14, 2014, 12:30:14 PM »
dhall, you should make some changes for yourself.  You say that you've been at the same job since 1986...that's coming up almost 30 years so they should owe you some leeway.  Talk to your superiors about needing to cut back and maybe start training a replacement.  I'd seriously look into trying to get into a 4-day work week, even if it meant you worked regularly on a Saturday.  After doing that for a while, cut it back to a 3-day week.  Get used to more time for yourself and get into things that are an interest for you...like rebuilding old GW carbs.  You might be able to supplement your wages and make-up for the lost days of work-week.

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« Reply #95 on: May 14, 2014, 04:21:28 PM »

Talk to your superiors about needing to cut back and maybe start training a replacement. 


Seriously?   They find a replacement and give him the pink slip. Thats not a solution hes looking for.
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Re: The thrill is gone
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Oh yeah, life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin' is gone
Oh yeah, I say, life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin' is gone

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« Reply #97 on: May 14, 2014, 05:22:28 PM »
Hey Bob. I understand what your saying. Like I said at the start of this thread Ive been at the same company and job since 1986. Just turned 57 in March, but unlike you cant even think of retirement. Other than my 401K company as no other retirement for employees. Always been kind of a loner and to myself. I've got what I consider one true friend that I've know for 45 years or so. We met in Jr. High and started riding our mini bikes together. He and his family live in another State so we see each other maybe once a year at Christmas time if we are lucky. Feel out of place and out of my comfort zone around other people(non motorcycle people) But rather if it's one or a hundred motorcycle people(especially the classic and vintage bike crowd) like us I never get tired of their company. Can stand around and swap stories all day long ;D
A couple of hours ago took the GW to get some gas and check out the back brake. Met a very nice guy probably 10 years older than me. Came riding up a 75 or 76 Wing he made into a trike. Couldn't talking about how nice of GW I had. Had just paid someone almost $300 to work on his Wings carbs and now says it runs worse. The bike wont even idle, looks like carbs have never been off bike. If he did anything maybe sprayed some carb cleaner in them. Feel kind of sorry for him, this guy for sure ripped him off. I had pretty good luck rebuilding my on carbs on my Wing so when I can find time going to see if I can help him get his carb issues straighten out to some degree ;)
I understand exactly where you are coming from and the squeeze you are in. You are not alone. I know a lot of people who are friends of mine, but I have 3 guys I have known for 50 years. We get together with the Wives every few weeks.
I did retire from a job with a pension, but, I will need that Social Security check to carry give us a decent lifestyle. I need 2 years for the full Social.

You have been given some great advice, some of it may be possible and some not. I would say, help that guy with hos Wing if you can. It feels good to do a good deed.

I think the trick for us all is to think of what to do next.  We tend to stay inside the "Circle of the Known" because it is comfortable. At our ages we may have to. Young folks fall into the trap and when they get to our situation they say "oh #$%*".

If the thrill is gone, it is a lot better than others that are in unbearable situations and are abused and  forced to eat #$%* every day because they have no choice in this economy.
   
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« Reply #98 on: May 14, 2014, 06:53:44 PM »
Bobby's right I'm old now but all my working life I've seen some god awful jobs, and worked at a couple that were soul destroying and I've sat down and had some suds with people who were worse off than I was, whilst saying to myself  thank christ I don't have to do what they do, I'd kill someone, so it's a matter of perspective if you get a decent wage and they are not going to bounce you out before you retire keep your head down and suck up any opportunities that come your way, you've got a hobby, let it tide you over the rough bits.
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« Reply #99 on: May 17, 2014, 03:09:24 AM »
dhall, you should make some changes for yourself.  You say that you've been at the same job since 1986...that's coming up almost 30 years so they should owe you some leeway.  Talk to your superiors about needing to cut back and maybe start training a replacement.  I'd seriously look into trying to get into a 4-day work week, even if it meant you worked regularly on a Saturday.  After doing that for a while, cut it back to a 3-day week.  Get used to more time for yourself and get into things that are an interest for you...like rebuilding old GW carbs.  You might be able to supplement your wages and make-up for the lost days of work-week.
Thanks for your opinion Hondanut. Hey that would been fantastic if something like that was possible, but the company would never do anything of that sort for me or any other long term employee. It would just never happen believe me. Is their companys out there that actually do that sort of thing ???
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