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« on: September 28, 2014, 04:51:14 PM »

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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2014, 05:06:52 PM »
Looks like you need my old, all original,  tweed Fender tube 'Pro-Amp' to go along with those. This was brought to the door of my shop some years ago by a local guy selling it. It had belonged to a member of a popular local band who had their own TV show back in the days around here called Rem Wall and The Green Valley Boys. Asked him about the guitar but somebody had already sold or taken that  :'(    http://www.hillbilly-music.com/artists/story/index.php?id=12681
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2014, 05:52:13 PM »
Very nice! I'd wager that you'll be hanging on to that! Any idea what it's worth?
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2014, 05:57:25 PM »
Nice rickenbacker, always wanted one of those...
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2014, 06:05:54 PM »
It's a '73.
I have a '72 Traynor tube head to go with it. Owned both since the early '80s.
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 03:19:00 AM »
Oh man that Rick is sick!
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 02:52:15 PM »
I didn't need to pay anyone to "relic" it. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 07:10:15 PM »
72 Tele Deluxe reissue, perched up on a customized (by me) 81 Pro Reverb that has been blackfaced in the preamp section, in front of my 1967 Hammond M100a.

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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2014, 07:41:08 PM »
Nice, is this turning into a "piccies of what you have" thread.... ;D ;D  {+runs away to get pics}   8)
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2014, 07:48:19 PM »
I don't know why that came out sideways. When I posted it from my iPad it was right side up. Stupid technology.

I'm actually selling that amp right now...so if anyone wants it.... :-D 

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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2014, 06:46:08 AM »
My brother and I inherited a 76 Tele custom from our grandfather when he died about 11 years ago. Excellent guitar.
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2014, 11:02:07 AM »
Nice, is this turning into a "piccies of what you have" thread.... ;D ;D  {+runs away to get pics}   8)
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2014, 02:08:20 PM »
Nice, is this turning into a "piccies of what you have" thread.... ;D ;D  {+runs away to get pics}   8)
Yeah yeah!

Here's some pics of some of my guitars, I have a friend who's a photographer and we had a guitar photo day a couple of weeks ago.. ;D









I recently sold this one... :'(


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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2014, 02:17:49 PM »
Forgive me. Are Gibsons hot, or do Fendersrule? ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2014, 02:33:37 PM »
 ;D ;D Well i'm not a big fan of Fenders if that was the question... ;D ;D :P

Guitar wise, both have their advantages, I'm a big fan of Gilmore so I have to have at least on Fender style guitar... ;)

Here's the surprise, none of them are actually Gibson or Fender, they are all high spec Japanese made LP's, the cherry sunburst and my gold top {not pictured} are both custom order Tokai's, the CS and GT have  Honduras mahogany bodies and necks, rock maple tops and long tenon neck joints, higher spec than Gibson custom shop guitars and they play wonderfully. The cream LP custom is a Greco, it also has a long tenon neck thick neck and is pure old LP in tone, it is the "creamiest" LP I've ever played. And the strat, its also a Tokai its 32 years old and came stock with dimarzio pickups, you could play this guitar to any fender expert and they would never know its not a fender, it is awesome to play and its sound is stunning, took me years to collect these guitars.  The lemon drop is a Bacchus LP, another fine guitar, i just sold it to a good friend who's been wanting it for some time now.. The Japanese make some very fine guitars, only prejudice separates them from the big "name" brands, in most cases they are better ... ;)
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2014, 02:53:10 PM »
Beautiful "lumber" Mick. 
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2014, 02:55:50 PM »
Beautiful "lumber" Mick.

Thanks Steve.. ;)  I'm putting together another guitar for a friends son, it should be a beauty, I'll post pics when its finished...
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2014, 06:29:14 PM »
;D ;D Well i'm not a big fan of Fenders if that was the question... ;D ;D :P

Guitar wise, both have their advantages, I'm a big fan of Gilmore so I have to have at least on Fender style guitar... ;)


And I'm not really a Gibson guy. For me it's not about quality or anything though. I've just never been attracted to them. I had a great 1976 Ibanez 2350 Custom Cherryburst recently. I completely rebuilt it with period correct metal braid cloth wiring, etc.. Absolutely beautiful guitar...and I had no desire to play it. Just not my thing. I'd really like a San Dimas Charvel "Strat" someday. I love that Tele though. I had the pickups reworked by Telenator a while back and I put a Warmoth neck on it with a Clapton V. Finished it with about 12 coats of Tru-Oil. It fits me very well now. I do miss having a tremolo though. I played Strats up until I got that Tele. But it rips.

I think the only Gibson I'd ever be interested in would be an SG, but even then...I've never liked how Gibson necks fit my hands. I really don't like C or D shapes (hence the Clapton V neck I put on the Tele).

I always liked my Fender amps until recently when I wanted to start playing more modern stuff...which is not any Fenders forte. That's why I'm attempting to save for a Mesa Rectoverb. Everything from warm and clean to all out rocking crunch gain and everything in between.
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2014, 06:47:04 PM »
I am at a loss. Sold my Frames Strato D Lux a short while back. So sad. I also sold my Fender Twin Reverb.....so sad. The only guitars I have left are my Ibanez Road star bass and a couple Kay hollow bodies.

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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2014, 03:51:46 AM »
;D ;D Well i'm not a big fan of Fenders if that was the question... ;D ;D :P

Guitar wise, both have their advantages, I'm a big fan of Gilmore so I have to have at least on Fender style guitar... ;)


And I'm not really a Gibson guy. For me it's not about quality or anything though. I've just never been attracted to them. I had a great 1976 Ibanez 2350 Custom Cherryburst recently. I completely rebuilt it with period correct metal braid cloth wiring, etc.. Absolutely beautiful guitar...and I had no desire to play it. Just not my thing. I'd really like a San Dimas Charvel "Strat" someday. I love that Tele though. I had the pickups reworked by Telenator a while back and I put a Warmoth neck on it with a Clapton V. Finished it with about 12 coats of Tru-Oil. It fits me very well now. I do miss having a tremolo though. I played Strats up until I got that Tele. But it rips.

I think the only Gibson I'd ever be interested in would be an SG, but even then...I've never liked how Gibson necks fit my hands. I really don't like C or D shapes (hence the Clapton V neck I put on the Tele).

I always liked my Fender amps until recently when I wanted to start playing more modern stuff...which is not any Fenders forte. That's why I'm attempting to save for a Mesa Rectoverb. Everything from warm and clean to all out rocking crunch gain and everything in between.

The Fender question was a loaded question mate {inside joke}  :P . Getting back to guitars though, I don't mind any shape neck really, all my guitars have different necks, my cream LP has the biggest neck of all my guitars  and has the best sustain and natural tone by a mile, I'm all about the natural ability of the guitar and the wood for me, thats why i'm not a real big fan of bolt on neck guitars or tremolo's, they can never sound or exhibit the same tonal qualities as a glued in or neck through guitar, I also love the tonal qualities of old Mahogany.  I fell in love with LP's when i was in Primary school {elementary?} and listened to Sweet and Led Zeppelin, Jimmy page looked so cool with his low slung stance and Andy Tuckers British flag painted LP was inspirational to a young aspiring guitarist, well it was for me anyway   8), most of the guitarists i liked played them , I bought my cream LP because it is a RR65 model, the RR is for Randy Rhodes, one of my favorite guitarists, pity he died so young, he would have been one of the best..I have a Fender Amp too, i'll never sell it but if i buy another amp, i'll get it made to my own specs... ;)
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2014, 08:26:45 AM »
Oh totally. Yeah my playing style and hand grip just makes big necks hard for me. I like my thumb over the top a lot. I agree mahogany sounds better. Big problem with me is that I am not nice to my guitars, and mahogany necks breaks SOOOO easily. I had an Guild M75 a while back. set it up against something at a multi-band show during tear down and it got knocked over...and proceeded to break the headstock off. It was fixable but...sucky. So that's another reason why I can't own something like an LP unless it had a maple neck or something. Also, I don't think I've ever held a LP that didn't weigh a crap ton, and after a 4 hour gig that gets a bit painful.

Buddy Holly was my first big influence. Lots of other 50's 60's bands after that but when I got into blues it was Jonny Lang's fault..he played Telecasters up until the past few years (He plays Tele's AND Les Pauls now) and everyone I was led to after him played Fenders...Stevie, Buddy Guy, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix...  I was already a Strat/Fender guy and that I guess solidified it for me.

I may have been part of starting a new band last week. Looking forward to getting out and gigging again.

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2014, 01:52:50 PM »
Oh totally. Yeah my playing style and hand grip just makes big necks hard for me. I like my thumb over the top a lot. I agree mahogany sounds better. Big problem with me is that I am not nice to my guitars, and mahogany necks breaks SOOOO easily. I had an Guild M75 a while back. set it up against something at a multi-band show during tear down and it got knocked over...and proceeded to break the headstock off. It was fixable but...sucky. So that's another reason why I can't own something like an LP unless it had a maple neck or something. Also, I don't think I've ever held a LP that didn't weigh a crap ton, and after a 4 hour gig that gets a bit painful.

Buddy Holly was my first big influence. Lots of other 50's 60's bands after that but when I got into blues it was Jonny Lang's fault..he played Telecasters up until the past few years (He plays Tele's AND Les Pauls now) and everyone I was led to after him played Fenders...Stevie, Buddy Guy, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix...  I was already a Strat/Fender guy and that I guess solidified it for me.

I may have been part of starting a new band last week. Looking forward to getting out and gigging again.

Yes, its all about what music you play, I love hard or heavy rock and the Les Paul loves this type of music but if i'm jamming Pink Floyd then its the strat. You'd love my gold top LP, its a custom shop built Honduras mahogany weapon and weighs just over 7.5 pounds, its weight is perfect, its my go to guitar for soloing, my cream LP custom is heavy but oh so sweet, a real tone machine, actually, I've not played another guitar that resonates like it does, the bridge is starting to collapse, its also 32 years old, so i need to buy a new bridge, that'll let me lower the action a bit again too... ;D  You do have to be careful of headstock breaks on LP's, I treat them like babies , never broken one in 35+ years of playing, they do have some dings though, at home I have the 2 I usually play the most, on stands in the lounge room, but when gigging, I never leave them on stands, straight in their cases if not being used, I've seen to many broken and they are to expensive to repair or replace.... ;)
Been about 10 years since i've played in a band, sorry , I filled in for a mates band about 5 years ago and got a pile of offers to play but i had to travel a fair way to do this gig and wasn't going to do that on a regular basis..  Do you have any more guitars besides the tele..?   You know we like pics round here.... ;D
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2014, 02:49:30 PM »
Here's the first electric I owned. Bought it in 1965 when I was 16. Its a Teisco. I think it cost me about $60 which was a heap of money in those day but was all I could afford. Anything else was much dearer. The closest I've been able to date it is 1959/60. It has a glued on and thick neck and action is a little high. Replaced the machine heads a long time ago and the bridge. It has suffered a few knocks over the years and the case desintegrated many years ago. Has a lovely mellow tone from those original pick ups. Doesn't get played much these days. Where I live is close to salt water (about 20 metres away) so my strings tend to rust faily quickly, particularly the top E, therefore I have no problem finding something to clear that pesky hole in the brake MC.
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2014, 02:50:28 PM »
You guys have any audio?
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2014, 03:24:55 PM »
Here's the first electric I owned. Bought it in 1965 when I was 16. Its a Teisco. I think it cost me about $60 which was a heap of money in those day but was all I could afford. Anything else was much dearer. The closest I've been able to date it is 1959/60. It has a glued on and thick neck and action is a little high. Replaced the machine heads a long time ago and the bridge. It has suffered a few knocks over the years and the case desintegrated many years ago. Has a lovely mellow tone from those original pick ups. Doesn't get played much these days. Where I live is close to salt water (about 20 metres away) so my strings tend to rust faily quickly, particularly the top E, therefore I have no problem finding something to clear that pesky hole in the brake MC.

That's quite collectible now Krusty, there are quite a few Japanese vintage forums around, you should get it valued.. ;)  I live near the salt water as well, E,B, and G strings make excellent wire trace when fishing for pelagics with teeth like Spanish mackerel... ;D

Steve, I had some digital recordings but  lost them when one of my computers imploded. I have a CD somewhere that has an old tune I did for an exam when i did my music courses  years ago, just music, no vocals even though i wrote lyrics for it, I played all the instruments on the recording including the drums {fairly basic drums though}, I'll see if i can find it, its not a high quality recording ... 8)
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Re: Classic lumber
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2014, 05:35:55 PM »
Here's the first electric I owned. Bought it in 1965 when I was 16. Its a Teisco. I think it cost me about $60 which was a heap of money in those day but was all I could afford. Anything else was much dearer. The closest I've been able to date it is 1959/60. It has a glued on and thick neck and action is a little high. Replaced the machine heads a long time ago and the bridge. It has suffered a few knocks over the years and the case desintegrated many years ago. Has a lovely mellow tone from those original pick ups. Doesn't get played much these days. Where I live is close to salt water (about 20 metres away) so my strings tend to rust faily quickly, particularly the top E, therefore I have no problem finding something to clear that pesky hole in the brake MC.

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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2014, 07:38:49 PM »
Hmm. Lemme see...



Above: Playing with a frankenstrat through a Peavey Valve King 212 a couple years ago.


Same band plus a guitar player and a fill-in drummer. I'm the bearded fellow again. Playing my guitar back when it was stock through a Peavey Bandit 112 (the closest thing to tubes that I've owned and played through.)

I don't have any good videos of me out there singing and playing, but if you hit up this link...  https://soundcloud.com/ryan-verthein/goodbyes-final-demo-mix That's the most recent recording I've done. There's a bunch of random stuff on that soundcloud too...some not so good.

Currently not gigging but I think we created a band last week. :-)
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2014, 11:44:05 PM »
Ravie, I see why you like the strat mate, nice middle front pickup tone and cool pentatonic solo, i'm completely self taught and started out in pentatonic land, major and minor, I dig playing in D as well, I play in drop D a lot... ;)  How did you manage to record that sound in the open, its extremely hard to get good sound out doors, for recording any way, that sounds great..?
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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2014, 06:02:57 AM »
The picture with me and the Strat was taken with someone with a high quality HD video camera with a condenser mic on their camera. I believe same thing on the "music video" they created for the other one as well.

Yeah, I can play the Drop D rock stuff, too...but Pentatonic pulls me home every time. I have a home in the blues for sure. I am also completely self taught.

I started on Buddy Holly at 4-5 years old and at 9 or so I saw Jonny Lang playing at an outdoor concert...at one point he walked out into the crowd in front of us and was soling and it was a goddamned epiphany for me. I was just like "This. I want...THIS." 

A lot of my formative learning came from watching videos over and over and over and over and over and figuring out every lick on them...  At one point I could play SRV live at El Mocombo all the way through. Not so much anymore as I've forced myself to make a stylistic change over the past 7-8 years do I wouldn't be pigeonholed as another Stevie Wanabe.



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« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2014, 10:06:54 AM »
Here's the first electric I owned. Bought it in 1965 when I was 16. Its a Teisco. I think it cost me about $60 which was a heap of money in those day but was all I could afford. Anything else was much dearer. The closest I've been able to date it is 1959/60. It has a glued on and thick neck and action is a little high. Replaced the machine heads a long time ago and the bridge. It has suffered a few knocks over the years and the case desintegrated many years ago. Has a lovely mellow tone from those original pick ups. Doesn't get played much these days. Where I live is close to salt water (about 20 metres away) so my strings tend to rust faily quickly, particularly the top E, therefore I have no problem finding something to clear that pesky hole in the brake MC.
  That reminds me of a speed demon. I have one somewhere but with only two pickups.
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« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2014, 01:47:16 PM »
Decided to see what I had on Youtube...I was the bass player, singer of The Menthols from somewheres around 2007-2010.  This is side a of our first 45 rpm single.
lumber used was a not so classic (made in Mexico?) Fender Jazz Bass, some kinda Squier Strat thing with a humbucker in the bridge position, and some kinda Teisco like cheapo 60's jap guitar that I can't remember the name of.  We always had the cheapest but effective gear we could make work and stuff was constantly breaking.  We were mostly always broke.  I am pretty sure I am still paying off our tours on my credit card.
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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2014, 02:20:10 PM »
The picture with me and the Strat was taken with someone with a high quality HD video camera with a condenser mic on their camera. I believe same thing on the "music video" they created for the other one as well.

Yeah, I can play the Drop D rock stuff, too...but Pentatonic pulls me home every time. I have a home in the blues for sure. I am also completely self taught.

I started on Buddy Holly at 4-5 years old and at 9 or so I saw Jonny Lang playing at an outdoor concert...at one point he walked out into the crowd in front of us and was soling and it was a goddamned epiphany for me. I was just like "This. I want...THIS." 

A lot of my formative learning came from watching videos over and over and over and over and over and figuring out every lick on them...  At one point I could play SRV live at El Mocombo all the way through. Not so much anymore as I've forced myself to make a stylistic change over the past 7-8 years do I wouldn't be pigeonholed as another Stevie Wanabe.

Yes, I had that same epiphany at around 10 years of age, took a little while longer to get a guitar though. I went to about 3-4 lessons in my teens and it bored me to death, I could go home, put on a record and work out most of the songs accurately in an evening so lessons didn't interest me, i wish i had learned to read music though, I don't even read tab, I still work things out faster by ear, its just how I've always done things. A lot people think drop D is easy to play in, even cheating but the thing i like is the structures you can play that you simply can't using power chords or 5ths or what ever you want to call them, I also use DADGCD and DADADD and a few other strange tunings in lots of different keys, exploring is half the fun. Wasn't it great when you were trying to emulate all these guitarists you look up to and that moment hits you when you realize that you actually sound like ...........you... ;D You've developed your own style... ;)



Good stuff Sean, I forgot you played... ;)
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