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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2006, 11:47:00 AM »
Here is a picture of the best handling bike I ever owned: : ;D

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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2006, 11:57:32 AM »
i find my 76' f1 handles great  ;), no issues, my neighbour has a 96' fireblade which i have ridden on occasions :o, it is like a 250 compared to the f1 lighter, a hell of a lot fasterand the braking is un belivable  ;),     mick.
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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2006, 12:09:53 PM »
HEY I started on one of those old trail hondas too!  Them things could take a BEATING! I had the trail 70 model from like 74 or something like that.

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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2012, 07:29:30 AM »
I have a 77 k. Before I the fancy roller bearings in it, it was a great handling bike. Now even more so. Handling has to do with the rider. All my buddies have rockets, an I gotta give her all she's got but I can keep right up with them guys in bends and corners comfortably. It leans right down with a little bit of balls and countersteer. Believe me none of us are easy riders. Mine has more capability than the motor has to offer, so I'm goin for motor parts before I jump on a rocket. I had a ninja 750 before and my 77 only lacked rpms.
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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2012, 08:17:21 AM »
i think the older bikes had the advantage of letting you know when going fast- the problem with the modern stuff is that when you get to the edge you are going 50 mph faster with the consequences that goes with the higher speed

I think the number of Rickman framesets sold in the 70s confirm what the handling of Z1 CB750 were really like

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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2012, 07:43:41 PM »
Talk about bringing a thread back from the dead.

The CB's aren't even in the same state when it comes to comparison. I previously owned a '03 GSXR750 before the CB750. They don't compare. One rev's to 15,000+ RPMS and is designed to ride at 100mph or more. The other has soul, is loud and likes cruising around 45mph. Not to bash either, just two totally different bikes; each with perks and downfalls.

And if it helps, I don't own the GSXR anymore and now have a '76 CB750SS by choice. Nothing like that vintage, old school feel.
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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2012, 08:02:58 PM »

I think the number of Rickman framesets sold in the 70s confirm what the handling of Z1 CB750 were really like
Just how many Rickman CB750 frame sets were sold? We know there were 302 Seeley 750 frames made. I was told that my Seeley kit cost about $1200 US in 1975, but I don't know if that is true, never having seen any actual receipts. If it is true, the kit cost almost as much as the donor K1 did when new. BTW, my bike is a bit lighter than a stock CB750. ;)
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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2012, 09:20:46 PM »
Interestingly, the 750's primary handling 'feel' was brought about by American marketing input. The first test frames had over 4" (100mm) of trail, but a brisk discussion with guys like Bob Hansen of American Honda (among others) made the company wonder if the bike was really going to be a hiway buzzbomb, or a Saturday nite boulevard bike. The trail ended up being shortened to 3.85" on the early K0 with the shorter shocks, which became the more common 3.75" trail with the later 13" long versions. It has the shortest trail of any bike in its class, ever. This lends it a heavier feeling when you are deep in the turn and go to pull it back up: you actually have to pull it back up, while longer-trailed bikes will flip up (and over, if too exhuberant) by pulling the bars into the turn.

The tradeoff is the lighter feeling at lower speeds (if the steering bearings and swingarm bushings are good) that the Big Four always provided, compared to, say, the KZ1000 or the Z1, and especially compared to the BMW, Harley, and Brit bikes of the day.

Today, the 750 is about 100 lbs heavier than its counterparts, not counting HP. This is purely due to the tech involved, but it also provides something that folks like Ilbikes touched on: the CB750/500/550/350F all provide the "old perch" ride, where you sit atop the bike and command it with your body english. Beginning in the late 1970s, you sat "in" the bikes more (the Z1 was one of the first like this), which reduces your authority over the bike's weight, and loses the top hamper that stabilizes them on high-speed straights like US Interstates. These later bikes felt more 'lively', but also fought back when cranked over to the footpegs.

When the monoshocks were born and the ultralight castings of great strength became practical to manufacture (translation: people were willing to pay $5K+ for the bikes, as opposed to $1695 or less), the frame became more rigid and handling naturally improved from that. But, the loss then was the division of bikes into "task machines" where you kinda needed one for touring (Wings, Ventures, Beemers), one for around-town stuff (something nimble with a removable luggage rack and/or tour-pak on the back for errands), and a third one for hotrod riding.

The Fours still provide all 3 functions in one package, with at least 85% of all the other 'types' all built in. Hence, their enduring lives.  :)
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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2012, 09:31:35 PM »
Modern sportbike? can you say peterbuilt? Mack truck man

Still they handle way better than many cruisers.

Honestly? I can corner and handle better than say a V-Max......just can't catch them on the straights.  ;D

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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2012, 05:41:13 AM »
I can't wait to see how mine handles. It's the rider, I learned to ride fast on a CB550, then a CB900F...it's all about the body English. I've owned many different sport bikes but I still like to ride the old one's fast, you have to work them. Here's an example...30years on :o I just turned 18, I no longer condone this type of behaviour on city streets BTW ;D

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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2012, 06:43:39 AM »
wellll...my 76 750F has a GL1000 front end, and a 2 inch longer DOHC swing arm.  rides really smooth and is stable in the corners.  can almost toss it around like the GS500E i used to have.  Long hiway rides are a blast.  I have also just removed the comstars and am fitting Kawasaki  mags to it.......16inch rear and 19 front off an 82 KZ750.  cant wait to ride it now.
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Re: CB750 Handling
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2012, 11:57:53 AM »
I can't wait to see how mine handles. It's the rider, I learned to ride fast on a CB550, then a CB900F...it's all about the body English. I've owned many different sport bikes but I still like to ride the old one's fast, you have to work them.

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Here's an example...30years on :o I just turned 18, I no longer condone this type of behaviour on city streets BTW ;D

Mountain roads are easier, less traffic! :D
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