Author Topic: RC rods questions (Read 8183 times)

RP · « **on:** December 16, 2015, 02:40:55 pm »

Were the RC aluminum rods sold in other colors.... Or were they all gold?

In the mid 70's did any other company make aluminum rods for the 750?

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2015, 02:51:08 pm »

Gold for him, yes there were some others,

gschuld · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2015, 04:13:41 pm »

I have seen one set of RC golden rods, of the latest generation(late 70s), in a red anodized finish. I'm assuming that this was a one off thing, but who knows.

MTC made forged aluminum rods back then, and before the golden rods came out, RC supplied forged alloy rods himself. There was Yoshimura, who made very lightweight aluminum rods for road racing. I'm sure there were others as well. RC, as far as a know, we're the only ones selling machined aluminum rods from billet plate stock. The others were forged. Not an endorsement by any means, just a point of interest.

Are you trying to identify a set of old aluminum rods? Post a photo or two, and I'll bet you'll get an answer. No promises if will be the RIGHT answer, but we'll make up something that sounds believable.

I've got years of BS training...

George

754 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2015, 04:23:21 pm »

Red ones were CBX or XS 11.

RP · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2015, 04:39:07 pm »

I am just trying to get some info because the new owner of the turbo bike pulled the pan and did not see gold anodized rods ......but if they are not forged they must be RC rods. I remember back in the day a story of people returning a replacement rod because they were the wrong color....so RC stopped color anodizing them.

kmb69 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2015, 04:47:30 pm »

I have definitely seen and pretty sure I own a set of RC rods that were not anodized.

gschuld · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2015, 04:53:03 pm »

It's possible someone was selling billet rods back then other than RC, I just can't think of anyone offhand. Now if there are forged rods in the motor, they could still be RC rods, just the earlier forged rods they sold before the golden rods were introduced, in about 1976. The forged RC rods were from +/- 1973 to 1975/6. Before the forged rods RC weld filled the beams on the factory rods (boxed rods) for their HD applications.

George

gschuld · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2015, 04:54:56 pm »

Quote from: kmb69 on December 16, 2015, 04:47:30 pm

I have definitely seen and pretty sure I own a set of RC rods that were not anodized.

Were they billet plate/ machined golden rod style or forged aluminum like the Yoshi and MTC rods?

George

kmb69 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2015, 04:58:08 pm »

Machined billet.

gschuld · « **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2015, 05:00:24 pm »

Interesting. Good to know. Non golden .... golden rods. And red ones....

George

gschuld · « **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2015, 05:48:21 pm »

The first two photos are from a December 1973 and a 1974 article, referencing the early pretty golden rod forged RC rods.

The 3rd is from the 1978 MTC catalog.

George

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2015, 07:08:19 pm »

Purple by any chance? Just WHAT did he see?

RP · « **Reply #12 on:** December 16, 2015, 07:40:55 pm »

Sounds like he is seeing Carrilo's. They are steel with the 2 ribs on the caps.

Well, at least I got educated on RC rods.....

gschuld · « **Reply #13 on:** December 16, 2015, 07:52:22 pm »

Well if they are Carrillo rods, your buyer should be VERY happy. If he isn't I'll be happy to swap him a set of my Goldens for his Carrillos!

George

BPellerine · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2015, 12:42:51 pm »

has anyone ever seen the welded up stock rods?bill

gschuld · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2015, 02:27:18 pm »

I've seen a black and white picture of one, but haven't held one in my hands or anything. The we're HEAVY. It was a desperate early attempt to keep from blowing rods when Russ Sr was running a pepco blower and fuel on the Assassin and other blower motor experiments pre middle 1973. By fall 1973, they had the forged alloy rods available and they dropped the welded beam rods.

George

BPellerine · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2015, 05:30:05 pm »

yes they would be heavy!have an article from 74 that mentions them,so just wondering.thanks bill

RP · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2015, 04:53:45 am »

George,

New owner is A-OK with Carrillo's, he has learned the Goldenrods were not all they were cracked up to be, and steel rods are better for a turbo application.

gschuld · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2015, 09:50:10 am »

Good deal. Everybody is happy. ...well except for those who are die hard fans of Golden Rods who are now offended by your inflamatory statement. .... right Mike?

George

NitroHunter · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2015, 08:20:50 am »

Quote from: RP on December 18, 2015, 04:53:45 am

George,

New owner is A-OK with Carrillo's, he has learned the Goldenrods were not all they were cracked up to be, and steel rods are better for a turbo application.

Except in serious drag race turbo applications. Eraldo Ferracci was adamant about that.

Just sayin...

MRieck · « **Reply #20 on:** December 20, 2015, 08:58:50 am »

Quote from: gschuld on December 18, 2015, 09:50:10 am

Good deal. Everybody is happy. ...well except for those who are die hard fans of Golden Rods who are now offended by your inflamatory statement. .... right Mike?

George

Carrillo's are stronger, lighter, the big ends don't oval and they can be sent to the factory to be reconditioned. Oops.......more inflammatory stuff.

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #21 on:** December 20, 2015, 09:24:47 am »

Mike left me a message yesterday. Sumpin about starting a museum. ...I heard Smithsonian. ... hard to hear...but...heard RC parts ....Lol!!

, Bill

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #22 on:** December 20, 2015, 10:52:11 am »

Quote from: Bill/BentON Racing on December 20, 2015, 09:24:47 am

Mike left me a message yesterday. Sumpin about starting a museum. ...I heard Smithsonian. ... hard to hear...but...heard RC parts ....Lol!! , Bill

THE Bentonian

gschuld · « **Reply #23 on:** December 20, 2015, 11:20:54 am »

Quote from: Bill/BentON Racing on December 20, 2015, 09:24:47 am

Mike left me a message yesterday. Sumpin about starting a museum. ...I heard Smithsonian. ... hard to hear...but...heard RC parts ....Lol!! , Bill

I think he was suggesting that old RC stuff belongs JUST in a museum. I think I have heard something similar in that great shop of his...

. Something about things like RC distributors and the like would look great. ...on static display

. Just playing Mike. I appreciate your patience with us head in the past types.

George

dragracer · « **Reply #24 on:** December 20, 2015, 12:09:29 pm »

" Head in the past"" !! Hahaha. To an extent, everyone on these old bike forums has their " has their head in the past". Mike's point of view is realistic. Those RC parts are old technology. Great back in the day when we had limited choices on hi po parts. Time has moved forward and exposed the weaknesses in the things we once worshipped. Unlike old classic cars that increase in value and escape the junk pile, those old parts are better off on a shelf instead of in a motor. We have more advanced selections now in every internal part. Moreover, no one knows what rod,crank or piston is in an engine once its buttoned up. They only see the results as it propels the motorcycle down the street, road course or drag strip. You get no points for running 40 year old hi po parts as a tribute to the Masters. We do get caught up in nostalgia unfortunately and our resident head guru respectfully reminds us from time to time that nostalgia does not build a reliable engine. If he didn't remind us, eventually your sacrifice to the gods of blown engines will.

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