Topic: SPECIAL MESSAGE TO RESIDENTS OF THE WORLDS ONLY SUPERPOWER

[Hop on a Honda]

God , what is really happening in the world of politician V the people.
The amount of money given to them by their supporters (oil & cartells ) should be well spent on what evers and make life liberal to all. It appears that who ever spends the most on the raz a mataz wins.
In reality the individual really has very little say on what really happens except for broken promises and a term in office with perks, lots of them for the party in power.
The big picture is actually very difficult to understand but I see a lot of wars going on and in the end the voter still pays the price of freedom???
Its like a game of world champion chess and goes on for ever.
Talk about pawns in the game , were it.
Dave  Australia.

[Rocking-M]

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I have to go with George Carlin on the #$%*ing thing:  I can #$%* since I didn't vote and had nothing to do with the election of this person.  (Mr. Carlin's position of course being that since the voters elected the people in question, it's the fault of the voters so they cannot #$%*)

so there is another George Carlin reference in this thread

George Carlin makes a lot of sense

[ic455]

CARLIN FOR PREZ!!

[Rocking-M]

I'll get out and vote for that. Now is the time to start a campaign

[ofreen]

And I'll fire this one back at you ofreen, your voting hasn't changed a damn thing, you said so yourself.
Just a different version of liars/panderers.

That's not what I said.  The Republicans lost control of Congress because enough people got tired of their BS.  The same thing happened to the Democrats in 1994.  The system can work, if people pay attention and vote accordingly.  It is a shame things have to become almost intolerable before most will get off the dime. Having a lot of turn-over amongs politicos keeps 'em off balance.  But it is only the beginning.  It is one reason why I tend to vote against incumbents, with few exceptions.

[ledbetter]

Hey  you seem to have a a chip on your shoulder about the south,not all of us in the south are bible thumpers ,just like not all those from the north east are assh*&^ .just most of you.  Just tired of the stereo typing it is small minded and very out dated.
If you want to pick on someone than pick on the Aussie we know that thay are beer drinking ,crocodile wrestling, sheep f@#$%!@ inbreeds.

Peace From the deep south ,Ledbetter

Yeah, you picked up that jab mate, well done. I do vote, and I don't think that voting for the "lesser of two evils" is a cop out at all, it shows that not all the people are useless lazy buggers. You see, none of the parties or politicians are without sin, so if you sit on your ass waiting, you'll always have an excuse not to. Personally, if you don't vote, then you don't have an opinion, nor are you entitled to one! Cheers, Terry.

Now if that ain't a load of bs I don't know what is. Voting does mean one can have the wrong opnion also.
I pay taxes for my opinion, I ain't sucking a government tit here nor in Auzzi land.

My decision is to work to see all the piss poor politicians outted.
If I choose to go about it without voting for one scumbag over another
that is the way I'll go about it. But evidently you prefer to be manipulated,
and that's fine with me.

[burmashave]

With all due respect, mate, you don't seem to understand that we have a #$%*load of bible bangin' retards; we call them "the south". They vote because it's the christian thing to do, not because of a nuanced political belief. It's their way of getting back at us "Yankees" for winning the war and making them turn in their negros. Basically, it's the northeast and upper midwest against everybody else.Throw in the west coast too, but even the Mexicans in California are voting Republican because of some perceived moral superiority. If the rest of the world knew a little more about the fractured state of our states, it might help them understand the somewhat schizophrenic nature of our foreign policy. We do vote, it's just that there isn't an I.Q. test before you get your ballot, though I doubt it would help.

Your comments are elitist, bigoted and insulting.  You owe many here an apology.  Before you take the mantle of political and moral authority, you should look more closely at yourself and your beliefs.

[ic455]

Remember, it was your laziness that allowed George and his cronies to win power in the last election, and Bill and his cronies before him. If you want better governments, get off your asses and do something about it, or just shut up, bend over,  and assume the position! Cheers, Terry.  

With all due respect, mate, you don't seem to understand that we have a #$%*load of bible bangin' retards; we call them "the south". They vote because it's the christian thing to do, not because of a nuanced political belief. It's their way of getting back at us "Yankees" for winning the war and making them turn in their negros. Basically, it's the northeast and upper midwest against everybody else.Throw in the west coast too, but even the Mexicans in California are voting Republican because of some perceived moral superiority. If the rest of the world knew a little more about the fractured state of our states, it might help them understand the somewhat schizophrenic nature of our foreign policy. We do vote, it's just that there isn't an I.Q. test before you get your ballot, though I doubt it would help.
     By the way,Terry, got any room at your place? When it gets bad enough around here, I'm coming to Oz.
I figure I'll fit right in on account of I got a big mouth and I drink too much.

You know why the North won?  Because they outnumbered the South.  Know why Southerners (or anyone) votes?  Because they believe in what their candidate stands for, not because their religion says it must be so.  I'm a Southerner, am not a Bible thumper, I don't vote for anyone I don't believe in.  As for the "retard" part: you probably shouldn't use that word around here anymore, genius.  You are a genius, right?  Since you're obviously not from the South. 

So anyway, how is it that you know precisely why folks in the South vote?  They tell you it was because they were stupid and just wanted to get back at Yankees? 

Ever heard this phrase? :  "Smile when you say that, pardner."  (.....you forgot your smileys)

[ledbetter]

was trying to think of something witty to say ,but i got's to go tend my moonshine still.
Cafe have you removed your foot from your mouth yet or are you still suffering from head in ass syndrome or was that shallow mind syndrome.

Ledbetter

[Terry in Australia]

If you want to pick on someone, don't pick on us bible thumping buck-toothed, banjo playing inbred retards, pick on the Aussies, we know that thay are beer drinking ,crocodile wrestling, swimsuit-model f@#$%!@ supermen and superior to us in every way, so lets try to pull them down to our own putrid level!

Geez, I'm offended at that insinuation mate, I didn't mean to f@#$ those swim-suit models, I just fell on them when I was pissed!

[ledbetter]

LoL Terry,cheers from one inbreed to onther
Ledbetter

[cafehonda]

To all y'all Johnnie reb's out there that took offence, If'n yous' ain't a bible bangin' special folk, I WASN'T REFERRING TO YOU!
Why is it that anytime somebody takes a non p.c. stand on anything, wingnuts com out of the woodwork to defend the viewpoint of people they wouldn't spit on in normal everyday life. I was talking about the holier than thou, morally superior types who pump millions into political campaigns to try to force their christian predisposition on everyone else. And before you all get your undies in a bunch, I understand that it's a free country and everyone is entitled to make their own minds up. But they are not entitled to have me like it. And free speech is still guaranteed to all, even if some would have it otherwise.
   P.S. No, I am not a genius. I was only able to score 146 on the test which places me somewhere in the gifted range. Thanks for the kind assertion though.

[Rushoid]

To all y'all Johnnie reb's out there that took offence, If'n yous' ain't a bible bangin' special folk, I WASN'T REFERRING TO YOU!
Why is it that anytime somebody takes a non p.c. stand on anything, wingnuts com out of the woodwork to defend the viewpoint of people they wouldn't spit on in normal everyday life.

Perhaps because you say things like this:

With all due respect, mate, you don't seem to understand that we have a #$%*load of bible bangin' retards; we call them "the south". They vote because it's the christian thing to do, not because of a nuanced political belief. It's their way of getting back at us "Yankees" for winning the war and making them turn in their negros.

So it looks like you're saying that people from the South are all "bible bangin' retards" and are all mad that they can't own slaves. Is that what you meant? Because that's what you typed. I know quite a few devout Christians. I wouldn't consider any of them retarded. And I've never heard any of them say that they wished they could own their very own slave. Now, you might not agree with their beliefs, or their political views, or their moral standards, but ...

...I understand that it's a free country and everyone is entitled to make their own minds up. But they are not entitled to have me like it. And free speech is still guaranteed to all, even if some would have it otherwise.

I couldn't agree more.

And why are we "wingnuts" for defending people that we don't spit on? I didn't realize that was a prerequisite. 

[Rocking-M]

Hey Cafe, now that was a half-assed apology if ever there was one. You can do better.

Though frankly I'd prefer that you moved to Oz where you can shag sheep with Terry

IC45 the North did not win, it's half-time
But seriously, the North lost as bad as South. We've all been enslaved now.

Secesh Now!

[Terry in Australia]

Though frankly I'd prefer that you moved to Oz where you can shag sheep with Terry

Ahh, I see thru you, you're just worried that Cafe's gonna steal them nags away from ya RM, and you'll be stuck with one of your local buck toothed, cross-eyed inbred retards to mate with instead of one of them purty hay-burners, ha ha! Hey I wouldn't mind a (sex) slave, got any for sale mate?

[Terry in Australia]

LoL Terry,cheers from one inbreed to onther
Ledbetter

Back at ya mate, ha ha!

[burmashave]

With all due respect, mate, you don't seem to understand that we have a #$%*load of bible bangin' retards; we call them "the south".

I stand by what I said.  The above is insulting to anyone from the South.  It is hard to construe that the above refers only to evangelicals.

They vote because it's the christian thing to do, not because of a nuanced political belief.

The above is elitist.  Apparently, you are the possessor of "nuanced political belief," which others lack.  Your nuanced belief better equips you to make voting decisions.  Others, who are not thusly equipped, are less able make informed political choices.

Furthermore, people vote for a variety of reasons; however, voting a Christian conscience seems to be the only basis to which you object.  Would you call devout Muslims "Koran thumpers?"  (Note that Muslims are spreading their religion faster than Christians are in the US.)  Do you object to the election of Keith Ellison to Congress?  Do you find it offensive that his supporters shouted "Allah Akbar" during his celebration speech?  Do you object to Northeastern and Northwestern union members who vote a straight union ticket?  Do you object to pro choice activists who base nearly all of their voting decisions around a single moral viewpoint?  How do you feel about closed union shops that use member dues for political purposes?

It's their way of getting back at us "Yankees" for winning the war and making them turn in their negros.

Even if we assume the above is an attempt at humor, your choice of (misspelled) epithet is offensive.  It missed its mark if your intention was to mock Southerners.

We do vote, it's just that there isn't an I.Q. test before you get your ballot, though I doubt it would help.

P.S. No, I am not a genius. I was only able to score 146 on the test which places me somewhere in the gifted range.

I am guessing that the first statement above is an attempt at humor; nevertheless, you seem to place great store in standardized IQ.  I measure intelligence primarily by what people do, secondarily by what they write and thirdly by what they say.

To all y'all Johnnie reb's out there that took offence, If'n yous' ain't a bible bangin' special folk, I WASN'T REFERRING TO YOU!

Are we to believe, from your mocking tone,  that evangelicals are less intelligent than the general populace?  Are they less intelligent because they do not agree with you?  Most of our founding fathers were Christians, and some of those forbears most dear to us -- Washington, Jefferson, etc -- made public expressions of Christian faith.  Were our "bible bangin'" forbears lacking in intelligence?

Why is it that anytime somebody takes a non p.c. stand on anything, wingnuts com out of the woodwork to defend the viewpoint of people they wouldn't spit on in normal everyday life.

You are actually correct here.  I would not spit on these people.  I would not spit on them because I am among them, I am related to them, and I spend time with them.  Please do not insult my friends and family.  None fit the stereotype you offer up. 

I was talking about the holier than thou, morally superior types who pump millions into political campaigns to try to force their christian predisposition on everyone else.

Thus, is it perfectly acceptable for other groups in the country to pour millions into campaigns to force their beliefs on the country?  Of the vast array of political motivations, evangelical Christians are to be singled out for their political action?  It matters not that CAIR dumped large amounts of money into the previous election?  There is irony in that you express feelings of your own superiority by claiming another group acts in a superior manner.  You may choose to resort to the tactic of claiming that your statements of superiority are in fact true.  In that case you would be no better than other prejudiced people who have gone before you.

And free speech is still guaranteed to all, even if some would have it otherwise.

I hope you are not arguing that the Constitution protects free speech in this forum because it does not.  I cannot tell if you are joking here; however, speech in private forums is in not protected.

That's what I meant about looking to yourself before you stereotype and insult others -- regardless of your 146 IQ score.

[edit 15 Nov: Fixed typos and added two sentences for the sake of clarity.]

[Rocking-M]

Oh heck, Terry you've figured me out But really it ain't so. I know how to
deal with Yankee horse thieves Starts with a 45 and ends with a rope

[ic455]

To all y'all Johnnie reb's out there that took offence, If'n yous' ain't a bible bangin' special folk, I WASN'T REFERRING TO YOU!
Why is it that anytime somebody takes a non p.c. stand on anything, wingnuts com out of the woodwork to defend the viewpoint of people they wouldn't spit on in normal everyday life. I was talking about the holier than thou, morally superior types who pump millions into political campaigns to try to force their christian predisposition on everyone else. And before you all get your undies in a bunch, I understand that it's a free country and everyone is entitled to make their own minds up. But they are not entitled to have me like it. And free speech is still guaranteed to all, even if some would have it otherwise.
   P.S. No, I am not a genius. I was only able to score 146 on the test which places me somewhere in the gifted range. Thanks for the kind assertion though.

There you go again, making derogatory remarks about folks.  Johnnie Reb?  Wingnut? 
By the way, the "Holier than thou, morally superior types" are not Southerners, if they ever were they ceased to be when they began to fancy themselves "morally superior" to anyone.  No Sir, those types are everywhere, quite a few in the North, too.  Free speech and free country have nothing to do with using The South as your whipping boy.  The people you are trying to debase are not exclusive to the Southland.  If you dislike Southerners, say so.  If you dislike rich elitist #$%*s, then say that, too.  Just try to keep the two separate. 

146, huh?  Was this an Internet I.Q. test?    ("yous" is strictly a YANKEE term, sometimes also spoken as "yas")

Last thing: does your bike run any different because you live up North (other than for obvious air temp reasons)?  No.  Does mine run any better because I live in the South?  No.  So, what the hell is the difference?  Just remember, those folks you were talking about come from everywhere.  There's probably a couple of 'em living right down the road from you.

[ic455]

Hey Cafe, now that was a half-assed apology if ever there was one. You can do better.

Though frankly I'd prefer that you moved to Oz where you can shag sheep with Terry

IC45 the North did not win, it's half-time
But seriously, the North lost as bad as South. We've all been enslaved now.

Secesh Now!

Half-Time!   I dunno if the North lost that bad, since they didn't have their cities burned to ash.  I'll agree that we're all enslaved, though, damn wife......or did you mean the Govt.?

[ledbetter]

Is there a differince's between the 2

Ledbetter

[ic455]

With all due respect, mate, you don't seem to understand that we have a #$%*load of bible bangin' retards; we call them "the south".

I stand by what I said.  The above is insulting to anyone from the South.  It is hard to construe that the above refers only to evangelicals.

They vote because it's the christian thing to do, not because of a nuanced political belief.

The above is elitist.  Apparently, you are the possessor of "nuanced political belief," which others lack.  Your nuanced belief better equips you to make voting decisions.  Others, who are not thusly equipped, are less able make informed political choices.

Furthermore, people vote for a variety of reasons; however, voting a Christian conscience seems to be the only basis to which you object.  Would you call devout Muslims "Koran thumpers?"  (Note that Muslims are spreading their religion faster than Christians are in the US.)  Do you object to the election of Keith Ellison to Congress?  Do you find it offensive that his supporters shouted "Allah Akbar" during his celebration speech?  Do you object to Northeastern and Northwestern union members who vote a straight union ticket?  Do you object to pro choice activists who base nearly all of their voting decisions around a single moral viewpoint?  How do you feel about closed union shops that use member dues for political purposes?

It's their way of getting back at us "Yankees" for winning the war and making them turn in their negros.

Even if we assume the above is an attempt at humor, your choice of (misspelled) epithet is offensive.  It missed its mark if your intention was to mock Southerners.

We do vote, it's just that there isn't an I.Q. test before you get your ballot, though I doubt it would help.

P.S. No, I am not a genius. I was only able to score 146 on the test which places me somewhere in the gifted range.

I am guessing that the first statement above is an attempt at humor; nevertheless, you seem to place great store in standardized IQ.  I measure intelligence primarily by what people do, secondarily by what they write and thirdly by what they say.

To all y'all Johnnie reb's out there that took offence, If'n yous' ain't a bible bangin' special folk, I WASN'T REFERRING TO YOU!

Are we to believe, from your mocking tone,  that evangelicals are less intelligent than the general populace?  Are they less intelligent because they do not agree with you?  Most of our founding fathers were Christians, and some of those forbears most dear to us -- Washington, Jefferson, etc -- made public expressions of Christian faith.  Were our "bible bangin'" forbears lacking in intelligence?

Why is it that anytime somebody takes a non p.c. stand on anything, wingnuts com out of the woodwork to defend the viewpoint of people they wouldn't spit on in normal everyday life.

You are actually correct here.  I would not spit on these people.  I would not spit on them because I am among them, I am related to them, and I spend time with them.  Please do not insult my friends and family.  None fit the stereotype you offer up. 

I was talking about the holier than thou, morally superior types who pump millions into political campaigns to try to force their christian predisposition on everyone else.

Thus, is it perfectly acceptable for other groups in the country to pour millions into campaigns to force their beliefs on the country?  Of the vast array of political motivations, evangelical Christians are to be singled out for their political action?  It matters not that CAIR dumped large amounts of money into the previous election?  There is irony in that you express feelings of your own superiority by claiming another group acts in a superior manner.  You may choose to resort to the tactic of claiming that your statements of superiority are in fact true.  In that case you would be no better than other prejudiced people who have gone before you.

And free speech is still guaranteed to all, even if some would have it otherwise.

I hope you are not arguing that the Constitution protects free speech in this forum because it does not.  I cannot tell if you are joking here; however, speech in private forums is in not protected.

That's what I meant about looking to yourself before you stereotype and insult others -- regardless of your 146 IQ score.

[edit 15 Nov: Fixed typos and added two sentences for the sake of clarity.]

BS, I should've read your post before making my own.  You have pretty much covered all the bases here.  I salute you, Sir. 
(no BS there) 

[ic455]

Is there a differince's between the 2

Ledbetter

I guess not, either way you get all your money taken away.

[Rocking-M]

My wife gives me an allowance, the government just takes

[ic455]

My wife gives me an allowance, the government just takes

You get an allowance?!  You don't need a "wayward son" do ya?