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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2006, 06:46:22 PM »
Lookin great. I definitely like the stock tank better. It's slightly bulbous, but the smoother lines of it fit way better, IMO.

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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2006, 10:32:46 AM »
Lookin great. I definitely like the stock tank better. It's slightly bulbous, but the smoother lines of it fit way better, IMO.
Thanks 4 the kind words Jeff, they are always appreciated.
The stock CB450 tank does look much better than the CB200.
Looking forward to getting the seat mounted, and then focus on the front-end..

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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2006, 06:59:35 AM »
* Project "SLiM" Update as of 12/11/06 *


Spent some more time in the garage yesterday and got some more accomplished on the CB450. Trying to take advantage of these above normal temps in Chicago while they last..The seat pan (which is now rivited to the frame) is done and painted. All of the electrics were mounted under the pan, and cleanly zip-tied out of the way for a super clean look. You cant see anything under their unless ypou squat down and really look, and with this bike being so low is a chore in itself  Once that was all done me and my buddy Danny covered the entire top of the pan with Velcro
(so I cant "miss" when putting the seat on ;D) , plus it makes it look more uniform.
I have a feeling I will be taking that seat off allot at shows next season to show people how I mounted it..

We also removed all the stock gauges, handlebars, and other misc. crap I am not gonna use. Painted the lower triple-tree and upper fork legs (had some minor rust on them), and installed my new headlight ears. Once I get my top tree back from getting filled, I plan to button up the front-end project, install the clip on bars I have, and get that part of the project done.

Then we are gonna finish mounting the seat, and start making the brackets to hold the battery in the cafe "hump".. Rearsets are also going to be needed if I plan to ride this bike any amount of distance..

More updates (and pics) to come !
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2006, 02:00:41 PM »
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2006, 07:12:11 PM »
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Here are the latest progress pics from the 450 build...

The first pic you can see the new headlight ears on the bike (scotch-brited of course), along with my spraypaint job. I had to paint the top part of the fork legs becasue the pitting looked nasty (plus it is kinda different).The majority of it is not gonna be seen once the headlight goes back in place.

The last 2 pic's are of the completed seatpan we made out of a sheet of diamond plate.
Affixed to frame and covered with velcro (actual seat will have opposite side to affix)
All electrics are neatly placed under the pan for a super clean / no sidecover look.
Once all is said and done with the electrics, I am gonna build a "splash guard" so to speak
to protect from the elements, as I have no plans to run any type of rear fender on this bike..

More pics and progress to come...
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2006, 01:32:17 PM »
Here´s a pic of the driving we want to see next summer when you´ve finished the 450 project  8)

Who it is?

Well, its the winner of the Production 500-class in the 1969 Isle of Man TT: Graham Penny on his CB450  8)

Cheers and keep up the good work!

Dan
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2006, 03:00:17 PM »
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Here are the latest progress pics from the 450 build...

The first pic you can see the new headlight ears on the bike (scotch-brited of course), along with my spraypaint job. I had to paint the top part of the fork legs becasue the pitting looked nasty (plus it is kinda different).The majority of it is not gonna be seen once the headlight goes back in place.

The last 2 pic's are of the completed seatpan we made out of a sheet of diamond plate.
Affixed to frame and covered with velcro (actual seat will have opposite side to affix)
All electrics are neatly placed under the pan for a super clean / no sidecover look.
Once all is said and done with the electrics, I am gonna build a "splash guard" so to speak
to protect from the elements, as I have no plans to run any type of rear fender on this bike..

More pics and progress to come...

I like that setup with the wiring under the seat.  So how did you say you fastened the plate to the frame?  Is it just bolted...no welds? 
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2006, 08:35:26 PM »
Who it is?
Well, its the winner of the Production 500-class in the 1969 Isle of Man TT: Graham Penny on his CB450  8)
Cheers and keep up the good work!
Dan

I dont think my lowered CB450 would be able to "recover" from that kinda airtime  :-\ ;)

I like that setup with the wiring under the seat.  So how did you say you fastened the plate to the frame?  Is it just bolted...no welds? 
We attached the seatpan to the frame with a small bead of silicone and 8 sheetmetal screws.
Believe me, it is not moving on it's own anytime soon ;D. If I had a welder I would of, but I am a man of my means, and don't like to make projects harder than they have to be..

* PROJECT UPDATE 12/14/06*
I got the top triple tree back today from having the handle bar holes/mounts filled today.
After awhile with my grinder and a hand file, I am fairly happy with the results.
I sprayed a few coats of black low-gloss enamel paint on it - and it is looking good. Not the smoothest thing in the world, but I am not too worried I am gonna loose a bike show becasue of it. Plus the clip-on's and speedo will be up their to hide the imperfections.. And yes, I am gonna run a speedo (just a speedo) which will me mounted in-between the clip-on's , which will be mounted ABOVE the top triple-tree. Without a speedo their, their seems to be a "void" in-between the clip-on's (my opinion)...

This coming Saturday me and Danny are gonna finish up mounting the seat, and start building the tray that will hold the battery under the cafe "hump"..We have a few different ideas on how to do it, so we shall see what we come up with..

With the current progress of the bike thus far, it will be done WAY before spring decides to break...
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2006, 12:58:36 AM »
* Project Update 12/17/06 ! *
Been busy trying to knock out as much of this project as I can while the weather is crazy-ass warm here in Chicago-land.
Got the seat 100% mounted up and finished today (which came out great)..
We ended up "building up" the inside of the seat with some wood, and affixed the seat to the pan via velcro.
Seat fits on the frame nice and tight, almost like it was made for it. The "ledge" was made today as well for the battery to be mounted to.
While the seat is in place, the "ledge" sits flush with the bottom of it - and will give us more than enough room to mount a full sized gel battery under the "hump" of the seat. I am really happy with how this all turned out, and is gonna work great !

The front-end is basically done, with some small spots that still need attention.
The lower legs were painted black, along with the top part of the fork tubes (to cover some minor pitting).
Add some scotch-brited headlight ears and you gots yourself some good contrast. Smooth top tree and some clip-on's finish of the
package. Need to figure out how I plan to mount the speedo, but that is last on my list...

Bike is coming along as at a very fast rate, and should be done soon...
Starting to look mean and lean !!
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2006, 08:40:43 PM »
With the help of Photobucket, I give you the most current Project "SLiM" pics --->

Finished Seat pan (with electrics underneath and battery "shelf"---->



Smooth top triple tree with scotch-brited clip-on's ---->

Bike as it stands, ready for battle !



Me on the bike for the first time, and NO I dont have a gut (just 10 different tools in the pocket of my hoodie making me look like I have one;D) As you can prob. tell from this pic, I need rearsets in a bad way, which are next to go on the bike...

More progress and pics to come !
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2006, 08:53:42 PM »
Hey Teal, wow looking good! Are you sure that seat is going to stay stuck down especially when taking a sharp corner? I like the triple tree -very nice. And I think the last pic of you on the bike is good as it gives an impression of how a rider looks on a bike....all too often bike pics are posted with no rider and I always wonder what it would like with a rider....so thanks for that! Not much ground clearance on the back end with you on the bike! I hope those shocks are good!  ;) Whats the plan with the rear shocks? Black or chrome? I was thinking black to match the forks but now I think the chrome could work.....Anyway looking good and keep the pics coming!

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Looking good teal......

Just a note to let you know if you source some acorn nuts for them clip on bar's it really cleans them up nicely.

(I have the same set)  ;)
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That's  a nice looking ride.  I have a couple questions for you. 
Do you have a plan to fill in the hole between the tank and the seat? 
What kind of clip-ons are those? 
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Nice job on the seat.  If you used the industrial velcro, there shouldn't be a problem with it moving around.  You may have a hell of a time getting it off.  I've just got one 9" long strip of velcro (and four bolts thru the base just serving as locating dowels) holding my seat down, and it ain't going nowhere.

I know you're going for more of a low look, but I'd be tempted to throw on a set of performance shocks and have some fun at the track.  That bike is going to weigh next to nothing when you're done and should be a lot of fun to toss around.  Maybe keep another set of shocks around so you can raise the rear end if you want.


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Looks great, though I'd also ahve ot mention that with you on the bike, you've got about 2 inches of clearance between back wheel and seat, and very little cornering clearance.
Might want to consider lowering the front more, while raising the back. This will help clearance, as well as increase the 'quickeness' of the handling.
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Re: PROJECT "SLiM" - THE 1973 CB450 TWIN THREAD...
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2006, 07:00:32 AM »
Are you sure that seat is going to stay stuck down especially when taking a sharp corner?
Believe me, that seat is going no-where, especially with my ass planted on it !
The Velcro I used is the same the Illinois gives out to hold their I-Pass's to windshields, and is as industrial as Velcro comes. I have a hard time getting the seat off after I have sat on it, so no worries of it comming loose.

Looks great, though I'd also have to mention that with you on the bike, you've got about 2 inches of clearance between back wheel and seat, and very little cornering clearance.
Might want to consider lowering the front more, while raising the back. This will help clearance, as well as increase the 'quickeness' of the handling.
The bike is real low, which is exactly how I want it..
The look of a slammed bike that has been stripped down of everything not needed is my vision of perfection.
This bike is gonna be a stoplight racer, so I will sacrifice comfort for looks on this one. We actually had to cut about a 1 1/2'' outta the cafe hump to get alittle more clearance out back. With those short shocks set on their hardest setting I should be OK clearance wise. Even with me "bouncing" on the bike as hard as I could the seat still had about 1'' of "safety room" from coming in contact with the rear tire. The new tire is gonna be the same height, but I might go alittle wider (i have the room) to get alittle larger of a footprint out back.

I know you're going for more of a low look, but I'd be tempted to throw on a set of performance shocks and have some fun at the track.  That bike is going to weigh next to nothing when you're done and should be a lot of fun to toss around.  Maybe keep another set of shocks around so you can raise the rear end if you want.
I feel exactly where u are coming from, but as I said above I am going for a low and lean looking scoot, that I can have a blast tooling around the city on. If I were gonna built a purpose built track bike I would make it right, but this thing is a low buck racer that is gonna eat up the streets of Chicago (stoplight 2 stoplight)  ;D
Plus no matter how many times I am told, I just cant get myself to jack up the rear end of a motorcycle, no matter what the benfits it might have. Just cant do it...

Do you have a plan to fill in the hole between the tank and the seat?
What kind of clip-ons are those?
The "hole" between the seat and the tank is going to be an issue, which I will address once everything else is done. Some thoughts to take care of it were to either make a attachment for the front of the seat to make up that space, then have it re-upholstered (kinda like Benjie does with his seats), or take some metal and "bridge the gap" so to speak and maybe mount some switches in their , a.l.a a racecar switchpanel. I will figure it out when the bike is basically done, as for now I have allot of other things I need to address..

I got the clip-on's from http://www.mikesxs.net for a great price. He has lots of good parts for great prices, and free shipping to boot ! I got the headlight ears their as well...

This Saturday I am gonna go source a set of rearsets from a local motorcycle junkyard, and get that part of the project going. Still on the fence about if I should paint the bike (pro job), or just leave it the way it is. Was thinking about doing a low-gloss/flat green on the bike, or maybe a low-gloss red ? Spraypaint is allot cheaper that having a shop spray it  :-\

More updates to come !
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http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mctext/h_hon.html

Give these a read. Pretty interesting.
If I only had the cash I would build the worlds quickest 450.

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looks really sweet!  Where did you get the Chicago flag decals from?
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Where did you get the Chicago flag decals from?
That's actually a sticker from a skateshop in the city.
You can't see in the pics but instead of the standard 6 pointed starts, their is someguy with a gasmask on ! I am gonna be making up my own "version" of these soon, should be tight !
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That guy watches too much OCC.

If the paint job on that tank looks as clean as it appears in the photos, I'd leave it.

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There is  a CB500t tank on eBAy that can be had on the cheap. I think It would make a good candidate. I went to the Hardly dealer to check out there new flat paint schemes. They looked nice. Its very much what I am doing to my 350. Its basically a flat clearcoat. Do this to the 500 tank in a dark color and you should really have somethin. I was considering the tank but I've already got a 350 tank coming.
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That CB500T tank is sweet, but for now I am gonna run what I have (cb450 tank).
I had thoughts of paint it, but that is just gonna add cost to a project I am trying to keep "low buck".
Just dropped $100 on a set of rearsets from a 2001 GSXR that I am gonna adapt to this project, a wicked glass "euro"
headlight, black headerwrap, clutch perch, universal throttle, etc..

It's the little things that kill ya in these projects, but it is gonna be killer when completed...

Stay tuned !
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My first thought when I removed my headlight on the 450 --->
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