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Who wouldn't like a 400 hp engine in a 88 lb package!?
« on: May 04, 2016, 08:15:41 AM »
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Re: Who wouldn't like a 400 hp engine in a 88 lb package!?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 08:30:25 AM »
Wait a couple years and possibly find one in a wrecked Nissan and stuff it into a CB750 frame  ;D
 Plumbing the exh. and intake will be a challenge.;I'd want to be sure they were Nissan-Spec compatible manifolds.They must certainly have put a LOT of engineering/Tech expertise into this one.
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Re: Who wouldn't like a 400 hp engine in a 88 lb package!?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 08:34:42 AM »
Quote from: grcamna2 on May 04, 2016, 08:30:25 AM
Wait a couple years and possibly find one in a wrecked Nissan and stuff it into a CB750 frame  ;D
 Plumbing the exh. and intake will be a challenge.;I'd want to be sure they were Nissan-Spec compatible manifolds.They must certainly have put a LOT of engineering/Tech expertise into this one.

Something tells me it will take more than a couple of years for Nissan to trickle down this particular spec engine to the consumer, but what a little giant-killer for a 1.5 liter triple!.  I wonder how much torque it produces.
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Re: Who wouldn't like a 400 hp engine in a 88 lb package!?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2016, 05:37:24 PM »
Well, in the lifting picture they left off the turbo and manifolds.. that will also at least weigh something like 10-20kg.
Actually this is more or less a motorcycle engine with turbo... but 1.5 liters and factory designed.  ;D

An old 1216cc gsxr engine can be lifted like this and can also get up to 350hp when turboed.
People who turbo Hayabusa engines have reached 900hp...

So actually I'm not that surprised they made this, I don't understand why they didn't do it sooner.  ;D Car engines are so damn heavy.
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Re: Who wouldn't like a 400 hp engine in a 88 lb package!?
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2016, 09:55:15 PM »
Quote from: Ilja on May 05, 2016, 05:37:24 PM
An old 1216cc gsxr engine can be lifted like this and can also get up to 350hp when turboed.
People who turbo Hayabusa engines have reached 900hp...

I've seen ZX-14 turbos with over 340 hp, but those motors do not weigh 80-100 lbs!  ;)
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Re: Who wouldn't like a 400 hp engine in a 88 lb package!?
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2016, 10:28:21 PM »
Quote from: Ilja on May 05, 2016, 05:37:24 PM
Well, in the lifting picture they left off the turbo and manifolds.. that will also at least weigh something like 10-20kg.
Actually this is more or less a motorcycle engine with turbo... but 1.5 liters and factory designed.  ;D

An old 1216cc gsxr engine can be lifted like this and can also get up to 350hp when turboed.
People who turbo Hayabusa engines have reached 900hp...

So actually I'm not that surprised they made this, I don't understand why they didn't do it sooner.  ;D Car engines are so damn heavy.

Oil cooled 1100 gixer engine weighs between 160 and 180LBs....
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Re: Who wouldn't like a 400 hp engine in a 88 lb package!?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2016, 06:33:34 AM »
Interesting that they went for a belt. Nissan timing chains aren't exactly known for longevity anyway.


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Re: Who wouldn't like a 400 hp engine in a 88 lb package!?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2016, 07:22:03 AM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on May 05, 2016, 10:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ilja on May 05, 2016, 05:37:24 PM
Well, in the lifting picture they left off the turbo and manifolds.. that will also at least weigh something like 10-20kg.
Actually this is more or less a motorcycle engine with turbo... but 1.5 liters and factory designed.  ;D

An old 1216cc gsxr engine can be lifted like this and can also get up to 350hp when turboed.
People who turbo Hayabusa engines have reached 900hp...

So actually I'm not that surprised they made this, I don't understand why they didn't do it sooner.  ;D Car engines are so damn heavy.

Oil cooled 1100 gixer engine weighs between 160 and 180LBs....

Yes, but they are also quite old already... 80ies design!
And the nissan engine doesn't seem to be weighed with everything on it.

I think it's definitly a nice development :-) .
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