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Easy made Motogadget Controls
« on: June 26, 2016, 05:29:38 PM »
Hey all,

Just wanted to share my way of making handlebar controls that work great with Motogadget M-Unit.
The momentary push buttons cost about $4 a peace from ebay. I could go way cheaper, but  they will come from overseas.

Next time I will try to get even a smaller size.

Spacial thanks to Cal who helped me figure out the M-Unit.




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Re: Easy made Motogadget Controls
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2016, 05:15:26 AM »
Nice, yeah on eBay you can get those momentary switches cheap. I used the actual Motogadget switches. They're expensive but they look great and feel well made.

I'm not sure my thumb is long enough to reach the button closest to your clutch perch, haha.

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2016, 05:59:35 AM »
Nice, yeah on eBay you can get those momentary switches cheap. I used the actual Motogadget switches. They're expensive but they look great and feel well made.

I'm not sure my thumb is long enough to reach the button closest to your clutch perch, haha.

Yeah. That's very clean looking however.
It would be neat if the switches were lighted in different colors. Handy at night.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2016, 06:42:42 AM »
you have veakned the handel a bit to mutch drilling 3 big holes so close together is a danger(..yes i nov there is holes in all Honda handels, from factory..)

....is it poissibel to find some smaller buttoms..so you only need 8 mm holes..and spred them a bit more.
.or not make them in a line..to spread the stresses in the tube
..think a light crask or hard push vill make a total faluire of the handel..hvere a standart handel just vill bend a bit ,,,this vil go total broken.. and you vill lose kontrol
i habe once made somthing like..but i used oxygen/ brass..and solderet some  thik rings on.to schrev the buttoms inn..it gave a solid reforsment of the holes..and looked nice at same time..but costs a re crome
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Re: Easy made Motogadget Controls
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2016, 11:16:05 AM »
Nice, yeah on eBay you can get those momentary switches cheap. I used the actual Motogadget switches. They're expensive but they look great and feel well made.

I'm not sure my thumb is long enough to reach the button closest to your clutch perch, haha.

I wanted the M-Switch, but like you said "Not cheap".  Actually, the button next to the clutch is not that far. The whole distance from the grip to the clutch used to be the stock switch. So, same distance.

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Re: Easy made Motogadget Controls
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2016, 11:16:56 AM »
Nice, yeah on eBay you can get those momentary switches cheap. I used the actual Motogadget switches. They're expensive but they look great and feel well made.

I'm not sure my thumb is long enough to reach the button closest to your clutch perch, haha.

Yeah. That's very clean looking however.
It would be neat if the switches were lighted in different colors. Handy at night.

I thought about that, but I couldn't find the ones that fit. The ones I found were longer, and won't fit inside handlebar.
It does feel weird at the moment, but I am sure I will get used to it.

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2016, 11:17:46 AM »
you have veakned the handel a bit to mutch drilling 3 big holes so close together is a danger(..yes i nov there is holes in all Honda handels, from factory..)

....is it poissibel to find some smaller buttoms..so you only need 8 mm holes..and spred them a bit more.
.or not make them in a line..to spread the stresses in the tube
..think a light crask or hard push vill make a total faluire of the handel..hvere a standart handel just vill bend a bit ,,,this vil go total broken.. and you vill lose kontrol
i habe once made somthing like..but i used oxygen/ brass..and solderet some  thik rings on.to schrev the buttoms inn..it gave a solid reforsment of the holes..and looked nice at same time..but costs a re crome
Actually before I attempted to do this on my handlebars, I did some practice first on a bent handlebar I have around. On that I drilled four holes, and it still solid. No, if I crash, I would worry about myself not the handlebar.
I would love to get 8mm that looks like that or so, but they are no where to find.

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Re: Easy made Motogadget Controls
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2016, 11:22:57 AM »
you have veakned the handel a bit to mutch drilling 3 big holes so close together is a danger(..yes i nov there is holes in all Honda handels, from factory..)
Actually, the holes are much larger than they need to be. With Momentary switches, you only need to use 22AWG, so the hole could be as small as 1/8" to pass the wires through. It looks like the holes you drilled are 5/16"?

11mm then threaded them with M12x1.0 .  Where do I put the momentary switches if the holes are only 1/8?
 

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Re: Easy made Motogadget Controls
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2016, 11:47:13 AM »
Thats really neat!  Cheers

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2016, 12:00:02 PM »
The ones I've used don't have the switch threads protruding into the bar, they are contained entirely in the housing. Only the housing contacts the bar and the wires and screw posts above it. Make sense? Are your switches sitting so deep in the housing that they pass the outside of the bar OD?

That makes sense. Most of my buttons reside inside the handlebar. They did not go through.
These are the switches I've used. I could not use the nut, so I decided to thread the holes instead. They seem pretty solid, and also water resistant.

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2016, 08:59:51 AM »
they do look real nice..and solid
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2016, 10:20:43 PM »
The ones I've used don't have the switch threads protruding into the bar, they are contained entirely in the housing. Only the housing contacts the bar and the wires and screw posts above it. Make sense? Are your switches sitting so deep in the housing that they pass the outside of the bar OD?

Mind linking what you use?

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2016, 05:05:24 AM »
The ones I've used don't have the switch threads protruding into the bar, they are contained entirely in the housing. Only the housing contacts the bar and the wires and screw posts above it. Make sense? Are your switches sitting so deep in the housing that they pass the outside of the bar OD?

Mind linking what you use?

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I believe Cal uses the m-Switches from Motogadget. They're relatively expensive but very well made and they look great.

http://motogadget.com/en/am-lenker/push-button-controls-m-switch/m-switch.html

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2016, 06:48:23 AM »
That's what I've been looking at too, they have another 3 button that cost even more.


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Re: Easy made Motogadget Controls
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 01:10:27 PM »
Hey! That's pretty neat! I might steal your idea if you have no objection

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2016, 01:13:45 PM »
I actually used the same button as my starter switch

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2016, 03:44:52 PM »
For the starter do you have to hold the button down? Or click on then click again off?


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Re: Easy made Motogadget Controls
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2016, 10:24:40 PM »
Hey all,

Just wanted to share my way of making handlebar controls that work great with Motogadget M-Unit.
The momentary push buttons cost about $4 a peace from ebay. I could go way cheaper, but  they will come from overseas.

Next time I will try to get even a smaller size.

Spacial thanks to Cal who helped me figure out the M-Unit.


That looks great! I really want to figure that out someday. The electrical stuff is still a bit overwhelming to me.

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Re: Easy made Motogadget Controls
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2016, 02:03:19 AM »
It looks nice and the switches are very tidy and clean...


I think I would have mounted them in a collar on the bar to put them in a vertical fashion / around the circumference of the collar... Then you could have one group of wires into the bar through a grommet.  A chunk of aluminum and you could polish and have someone anodize it for you after all the fabrication.  Small LEDs beside each button (towards the headstock) that are low output could help orient you at night... they would be invisible during the day and not distractingly bright at night.

Hardest part to fabricate it would be the centered hole that was a bit over 7/8" in diameter.  Cut in half then drill the backside  for recess for switches contacts.  Drill the 3 holes for switches and 2 to 4 holes for clamping it to the bar and counter sink for screw heads (should only need 2 holes) before drilling the center hole would be the sequence I would use. Tap the 2 holes for clamp bolts after it is cut in half.
It could be fabricated using a drill press and router to round over the sides if you started with a cylindrical piece of aluminum.

The advantage of that approach would be the clutch perch would be much closer.
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2016, 10:32:38 AM »
Hey! That's pretty neat! I might steal your idea if you have no objection

Knock yourself out. Post some pics so we all learn.

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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2016, 10:44:20 AM »
It looks nice and the switches are very tidy and clean...


I think I would have mounted them in a collar on the bar to put them in a vertical fashion / around the circumference of the collar... Then you could have one group of wires into the bar through a grommet.  A chunk of aluminum and you could polish and have someone anodize it for you after all the fabrication.  Small LEDs beside each button (towards the headstock) that are low output could help orient you at night... they would be invisible during the day and not distractingly bright at night.

Hardest part to fabricate it would be the centered hole that was a bit over 7/8" in diameter.  Cut in half then drill the backside  for recess for switches contacts.  Drill the 3 holes for switches and 2 to 4 holes for clamping it to the bar and counter sink for screw heads (should only need 2 holes) before drilling the center hole would be the sequence I would use. Tap the 2 holes for clamp bolts after it is cut in half.
It could be fabricated using a drill press and router to round over the sides if you started with a cylindrical piece of aluminum.

The advantage of that approach would be the clutch perch would be much closer.

Here is my first attempt. At first I had a second thought about drilling the handlebars, so I got a pipe that slides firmly on handlebars then welded another pipe that cares the push buttons. As you can see I did not even think about drilling, so I made a cut through to slide the buttons.

If your are a good welder, you can give it a great shape. It requires you to plug the ends of the top pipe.
Then drill a tiny hole on handlebars to feed the 24 awg wires.

If money is not an issue, they are smaller buttons on Ebay for around $15 each. They require 9/32 holes (.2813 decimal inches), then use an M8x1.0 tap.  If you have troubles finding a metric tap, you can use a 5/16-24 tap, which is the closest to the metric one.